Pflueger Autopla

Started by oldmanjoe, October 01, 2024, 01:39:01 AM

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oldmanjoe

    :)  Here is the back story , I received this reel as a bycatch in a group of reels .  The reel had a full spool of line on it .  When I pulled the line , it rewound it self . OK it has a spring in the left side plate .  So now I tried it again pulling more line out after about 6-7 foot the spring feels like it is skipping , but it did pull back some line onto the spool .


    So now I start looking for more information about this reel , Not much information has been found yet , just these .
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=20246.0
https://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?t=4461
https://alantani.com/index.php/topic,16530.0.html

    So now I stripped the line off the spool to start the clean up and take a peek at the workings of the reel , more so the spring deal .  When I saw this , it looks like the spring is broken .
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oldmanjoe

   While I was doing my research , I came across a pair of Autopla 2479 that looked to be parts reels .  I did get them today .   The first thing I checked is to see if the springs were good . Both reels did the same thing ,a skipping feeling after about 6 foot pull. One felt a little better spring wise .

    At this point I am going to try to use the gallery pictures so I can focus on text and picture ,and also load picture in the drop box so you can click on and blow up the pictures .

   Both reels have cracked spacer rings


 One had two cracks were as a piece came off .

    With this piece removed it made a window to look at the spring .  I turned the thumb wheel until the tail of the spring popped up in the window .
 
   Now I can see it does not look broken , and it looks like the end is bent down a little

     So now I think that the spring is not locked to the spacer ring in any way and that is why the spring skipps .   At this point I removed the spring .


   I can look at the spacer ring and see no place were the spring can be anchored .



This now tells me that the spring can not be broken no matter how much line is pulled from the reel , it is more like a lite drag with a little take up for a small fight .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

foakes

Joe, Here is a little Pflueger 2475S Autopla.

I wonder if the "S" stands for Saltwater, or?

Old linen line maybe.  Works well, spring is strong.

I'll send it along with your shipment of additional DQ parts hopefully this week.  N/C.

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oldmanjoe

 :)   To my understanding The S was for saltwater .   I appreciate the offer of the reel, but I do have 3 of them here now . Two of them are back together again , the other one will get modified for a little more spring action .
   
    Maybe some one else would like the reel to play with .   Lets see if this generates any interest in this novelty reel , it`s a little gimmicky reel ..     
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

JasonGotaProblem

Looks like a reel smith took apart a tape measure and had what he thought was a eureka moment
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oldmanjoe

Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on October 02, 2024, 08:30:42 PMLooks like a reel smith took apart a tape measure and had what he thought was a eureka moment
A tape measure and a recoil on the lawn mower have a anchor on the tail end of the spring were this does not .  But this reel was made this way for a reason , I am going to push it a little more ..
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

boon

If the spring was fixed it would snap if a fish took more than the spring's maximum travel worth of line.

oc1

I think it has a lot more spring revolutions than a tape measure or mower recoil.  Maybe by adjusting the number of revolutions and spring material they were able to fine tune the tension to make it enough to grab but still slip when needed.  That kind of spring and I do not get along very well. The worst thing in the world to put back together.

oldmanjoe

              The spring is a two piece spring . About 12 inches is heavy coil "outside  coils "is riveted to a lite  wire spring .   You can see it here .



Quote from: boon on October 04, 2024, 01:36:23 AMIf the spring was fixed it would snap if a fish took more than the spring's maximum travel worth of line.
That is possible , but I think they did it for another reason .  Once you put spring tension in , you can not just pull the knob to release the tension .

     I made two rings to replace the cracked ones , and I did changed them a little to start with .
 




I have some testing to do to find if the theories work .

I will load pictures in the drop box so you can blow them up .
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare