Okuma Cavalla 5

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jurelometer

Quote from: MexicanGulf on October 10, 2024, 02:41:03 AM
Quote from: boon on October 09, 2024, 11:23:42 PMI'd recommend rinsing your reels better. That's full of salt.

could you describe to me the correct procedure to treat the reels after each single outing? I would like to understand where I am going wrong. thanks

My reels get a lot of salt spray.  Here is what I do:



For reels that are capable of draining (not"sealed" reels),  I just rinse the reel on the rod with a generous amount of running water without spray  pressure daily, and do a full soak once a week:

1.  Remover reel from rod and  immerse in a bucket of warm fresh water (no soap) for about 30 minutes, lifting the reel out of the water to drain completely several times during this period. Lever drags are probably better off in freespool.  Also rinse the reel seat on the rod  well.

2. Let the reel  air dry completely with the drain holes at the lowest point. I find that shifting the reel in a couple different positions helps some reels dry faster. Leave the lever drag in free spool, so that you don't trap water between the drag and drag plate.

3. Store the reel uncovered, and not in the reel seat. I try to avoid storing reels in neoprene covers as they trap moisture.

That is all I do until the reel needs more lubricant, or it is time for annual maintenance.

-J

MexicanGulf

Quote from: jurelometer on October 10, 2024, 04:38:56 AM
Quote from: MexicanGulf on October 10, 2024, 02:41:03 AM
Quote from: boon on October 09, 2024, 11:23:42 PMI'd recommend rinsing your reels better. That's full of salt.

excuse me, what are the reels that can drain and the sealed ones? How to recognize them?

could you describe to me the correct procedure to treat the reels after each single outing? I would like to understand where I am going wrong. thanks

My reels get a lot of salt spray.  Here is what I do:



For reels that are capable of draining (not"sealed" reels),  I just rinse the reel on the rod with a generous amount of running water without spray  pressure daily, and do a full soak once a week:

1.  Remover reel from rod and  immerse in a bucket of warm fresh water (no soap) for about 30 minutes, lifting the reel out of the water to drain completely several times during this period. Lever drags are probably better off in freespool.  Also rinse the reel seat on the rod  well.

2. Let the reel  air dry completely with the drain holes at the lowest point. I find that shifting the reel in a couple different positions helps some reels dry faster. Leave the lever drag in free spool, so that you don't trap water between the drag and drag plate.

3. Store the reel uncovered, and not in the reel seat. I try to avoid storing reels in neoprene covers as they trap moisture.

That is all I do until the reel needs more lubricant, or it is time for annual maintenance.

-J
Quote from: jurelometer on October 10, 2024, 04:38:56 AM
Quote from: MexicanGulf on October 10, 2024, 02:41:03 AM
Quote from: boon on October 09, 2024, 11:23:42 PMI'd recommend rinsing your reels better. That's full of salt.

could you describe to me the correct procedure to treat the reels after each single outing? I would like to understand where I am going wrong. thanks

My reels get a lot of salt spray.  Here is what I do:



For reels that are capable of draining (not"sealed" reels),  I just rinse the reel on the rod with a generous amount of running water without spray  pressure daily, and do a full soak once a week:

1.  Remover reel from rod and  immerse in a bucket of warm fresh water (no soap) for about 30 minutes, lifting the reel out of the water to drain completely several times during this period. Lever drags are probably better off in freespool.  Also rinse the reel seat on the rod  well.

2. Let the reel  air dry completely with the drain holes at the lowest point. I find that shifting the reel in a couple different positions helps some reels dry faster. Leave the lever drag in free spool, so that you don't trap water between the drag and drag plate.

3. Store the reel uncovered, and not in the reel seat. I try to avoid storing reels in neoprene covers as they trap moisture.

That is all I do until the reel needs more lubricant, or it is time for annual maintenance.

-J





excuse me, how can I distinguish the reels that can drain from the sealed ones? I don't understand, please explain.

jurelometer

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Quote from: MexicanGulf on October 10, 2024, 10:58:33 AMexcuse me, what are the reels that can drain and the sealed ones? How to recognize them?
"Sealed" reels will be advertised and marked as sealed or waterproof.  Spinning and fly reels might  be sealed, but I am not aware of any conventional/baitcasting reels with sealed chambers, as the revolving spool makes this unpractical.

The problem with sealed chambers in reels is that they have to support a revolving  shaft, so no seal is permanently waterproof.  The seals will keep  most of the outside water from getting in, but will also keep most of whatever water that gets in from getting back out, so soaking is more risky.

Some  non-sealed reels are designed to drain in several key positions.  On most modern conventional reels, you should see at least one drain at the bottom of the main gear box on the spool side.  It is pretty easy to figure out where water might pool up when drying the reel and adjust the position accordingly.

I should note that while soaking reels that have been exposed to salt is recommended by some manufacturers,  many of the folk here do not believe in this practice, preferring to keep the reels as dry as possible.  Us soakers are probably in the minority here. I have yet to see a compelling  argument for not soaking.

Your case is illustrative. You have salt crystals in the reel, so you will need a highly polar solvent to dissolve, dilute, and extract the salt.  Nothing comes close to working as well as ordinary fresh water.

One other note: I see carbon fiber residue in the photos. Carbon fiber is highly conductive, so galvanic corrosion of the stainless and especially aluminum parts is a risk.  Carefully cleaning off carbon residue and then coating the drag washer  all the internal metal surfaces lightly with grease during maintenance is probably a good idea. 

Hope this helps.

-J

Donnyboat

I believe there is only one way to look after your reel, totally strip it, clean it out, and re lube the bearing, fully, clean the carbon fibre drag washers and re lube it with cals grease, the less salt, and water you have in a reel the better, good luck, leave some fish in the water for us, cheers Don.
Don, or donnyboat

boon

Per jurelometer, I think the best thing for reels that have been used in salt is a large flow of low-pressure fresh water. Absolutely drown them. A well-designed conventional reel should have appropriately placed drains to let the water out, and you want to dissolve/flush as much salt as possible. The parts inside a saltwater reel should never corrode in the presence of fresh water only.

Gfish

Yeah, I got one. Wanted one even smaller than the size 8 Shimano Speedmaster. Also wanted to see what a lower-end Okuma LD was all about. Little more expensive than the Speedmaster, but seems to be a slightly better reel. Slower ramp-up(better drag range) and less cranking friction at comparable strike-drag settings.
So, I wanted to show a picture of the drain holes on these two. Remove from rod after rinse and place as Dave said for max. draining potential.
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jurelometer

That's a good place for the drains.  They will also drain well on a rod stored vertically.  Those big drain holes are good too.

-J

Hardy Boy

I won't argue with Dave.  I never soak just service and I have never had an issue. Spray during running is a killer though.

Todd
Todd

jurelometer

Quote from: boon on October 10, 2024, 09:10:58 PMThe parts inside a saltwater reel should never corrode in the presence of fresh water only.

Exactly.  I never understood why folk load up their dishwasher with aluminum pans and stainless steel utensils but are afraid to get their reels wet. ::)

-J