OC 112 spool "dragging"

elcarlstono · October 21, 2024, 04:06:47 PM

Serviced/restored my 112 a couple of years ago, and it had some great action. Took it fishing a few weeks ago and after pulling in a blue fish on a troll I noted significant friction between the spool and the crank side plate. After dismantling I don't notice anything particularly off but still note the dragging even while the spool is just "laying" against the pinion (meaning reel is not reassembled). It has to be something really simple but it is evading me.

Gfish · October 21, 2024, 05:12:32 PM

Any rub marks on the spool or frame?

elcarlstono · October 21, 2024, 06:03:58 PM

Quote from: Gfish on October 21, 2024, 05:12:32 PMAny rub marks on the spool or frame?

Not that is immediately apparent. However, upon further inspection it may be rubbing against the hoke plate.

elcarlstono · October 21, 2024, 06:08:41 PM

Here's how it looks on the inside. Again, it was working fine until caught a fish, and the handle turns just fine now without the spool.

Swami805 · October 21, 2024, 06:18:35 PM

I'm thinking it's the spool flange rubbing on the inside rim of the side plate

elcarlstono · October 21, 2024, 06:20:42 PM

Quote from: Swami805 on October 21, 2024, 06:18:35 PMI'm thinking it's the spool flange rubbing on the inside rim of the side plate

Best I can tell there is clearance. It spins fine when in freespool.

Gfish · October 21, 2024, 07:17:24 PM

So something on the one of the internal plates, or that supports those plates, might be tweaked. Not real familiar with the O.C.'s. Which plate moves when the free-spool lever is actuated?

sabaman1 · October 21, 2024, 11:50:22 PM

Is the screw in the eccentric assembly an original screw?

oc1 · October 22, 2024, 06:42:09 AM

As Lee recently reminded us, you can "blueprint" the reel by coloring the edge of the spool, yoke. bridge, etc. with a Sharpie pen to figure out where it is rubbing. At 6 o'clock below the suspect yoke screw in the photo it looks like rub marks.

elcarlstono · October 22, 2024, 11:34:04 AM

Quote from: sabaman1 on October 21, 2024, 11:50:22 PMIs the screw in the eccentric assembly an original screw?

As far as i know, yes. It came with the reel and matches all other photos and diagrams. And again, it worked fine for a while.

Leonardo · October 22, 2024, 01:01:40 PM

IF it was working FINE before you caught the BLUEFISH and you had the rubbing immediately afterwards and a thorough tear down and cleaning it still has the Rub then either you blew the spool outwards by using the wrong line or the bushings in the end bearings just wore out on the last trip . Ocean City uses small brass bushings in those end bearings which are replaceable when you can find them . Just a SMALL amount of wear will result in the problem you are having .

elcarlstono · October 22, 2024, 01:05:43 PM

Quote from: Leonardo on October 22, 2024, 01:01:40 PMIF it was working FINE before you caught the BLUEFISH and you had the rubbing immediately afterwards and a thorough tear down and cleaning it still has the Rub then either you blew the spool outwards by using the wrong line or the bushings in the end bearings just wore out on the last trip . Ocean City uses small brass bushings in those end bearings which are replaceable when you can find them . Just a SMALL amount of wear will result in the problem you are having .

That sounds more likely. What would you consider the "wrong line"? I was running 30# mono. FWIW the bluefish was probably about 5-7#, so it wasn't a monster but did put up a stout bluefish fight.

Leonardo · October 22, 2024, 01:14:27 PM

In my opinion

That sounds more likely. What would you consider the "wrong line"? I was running 30# mono. FWIW the bluefish was probably about 5-7#, so it wasn't a monster but did put up a stout bluefish fight.

For that Reel Mono that size will cause your problem . They made special spools for Mono in the 922/933 series however I have not seen any for the Reel you have .
You can try and drill a hole in a board where the spool shafts and or Clicker gear will clear and with another piece of wood on the end of shaft then hit it with a hammer and see if you can bent the edges back . Does not take much and if those bushings I mention are worn even the slightest it will cause your problem .

elcarlstono · October 22, 2024, 01:37:21 PM

Quote from: Leonardo on October 22, 2024, 01:14:27 PMIn my opinion

That sounds more likely. What would you consider the "wrong line"? I was running 30# mono. FWIW the bluefish was probably about 5-7#, so it wasn't a monster but did put up a stout bluefish fight.

For that Reel Mono that size will cause your problem . They made special spools for Mono in the 922/933 series however I have not seen any for the Reel you have .
You can try and drill a hole in a board where the spool shafts and or Clicker gear will clear and with another piece of wood on the end of shaft then hit it with a hammer and see if you can bent the edges back . Does not take much and if those bushings I mention are worn even the slightest it will cause your problem .

But even if I fix it I can't continue to run mono on it. Will I run into this problem with my Penn Long Beach 65 or Senator 113h? I pretty much run mono exclusively.

Leonardo · October 22, 2024, 02:31:43 PM

QuoteBut even if I fix it I can't continue to run mono on it. Will I run into this problem with my Penn Long Beach 65 or Senator 113h? I pretty much run mono exclusively.

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True but you might can get a special Spool for both to use mono or just start using Braid
The 113H can use mono plus they male aluminum Spools for them that are damn near Bullet Proof.