OC 112 spool "dragging"

[elcarlstono]

Serviced/restored my 112 a couple of years ago, and it had some great action.  Took it fishing a few weeks ago and after pulling in a blue fish on a troll I noted significant friction between the spool and the crank side plate. After dismantling I don't notice anything particularly off but still note the dragging even while the spool is just "laying" against the pinion (meaning reel is not reassembled).  It has to be something really simple but it is evading me. 

[Gfish]

Any rub marks on the spool or frame?

[elcarlstono]

Any rub marks on the spool or frame?

Not that is immediately apparent. However, upon further inspection it may be rubbing against the hoke plate.

[elcarlstono]

Here's how it looks on the inside.  Again, it was working fine until caught a fish, and the handle turns just fine now without the spool.

[Swami805]

I'm thinking it's the spool flange rubbing on the inside rim of the side plate

[elcarlstono]

I'm thinking it's the spool flange rubbing on the inside rim of the side plate

Best I can tell there is clearance.  It spins fine when in freespool.

[Gfish]

So something on the one of the internal plates, or that supports those plates, might be tweaked. Not real familiar with the O.C.'s. Which plate moves when the free-spool lever is actuated?

[sabaman1]

Is the screw in the eccentric assembly an original screw?

[oc1]

As Lee recently reminded us, you can "blueprint" the reel by coloring the edge of the spool, yoke. bridge, etc. with a Sharpie pen to figure out where it is rubbing.  At 6 o'clock below the suspect yoke screw in the photo it looks like rub marks.

[elcarlstono]

Is the screw in the eccentric assembly an original screw?

As far as i know, yes. It came with the reel and matches all other photos and diagrams. And again, it worked fine for a while.

[elcarlstono]

IF it was working FINE before you caught the BLUEFISH and you had the rubbing immediately afterwards and a thorough tear down and cleaning it still has the Rub then either you blew the spool outwards by using the wrong line or the bushings in the end bearings just wore out on the last trip . Ocean City uses small brass bushings in those end bearings which are replaceable when you can find them . Just a SMALL amount of wear will result in the problem you are having .

That sounds more likely.  What would you consider the "wrong line"? I was running 30# mono. FWIW the bluefish was probably about 5-7#, so it wasn't a monster but did put up a stout bluefish fight.

[elcarlstono]

In my opinion

That sounds more likely.  What would you consider the "wrong line"? I was running 30# mono. FWIW the bluefish was probably about 5-7#, so it wasn't a monster but did put up a stout bluefish fight.


For that Reel Mono that size will cause your problem . They made special spools for Mono in the 922/933 series however I have not seen any for the Reel you have .
You can try and drill a hole in a board where the spool shafts and or Clicker gear will clear and with another piece of wood on  the end of shaft  then hit it with a hammer and see if you can bent the edges back . Does not take much and if those bushings I mention are worn even the slightest it will cause your problem .

But even if I fix it I can't continue to run mono on it.  Will I run into this problem with my Penn Long Beach 65 or Senator 113h?  I pretty much run mono exclusively.

[oldmanjoe]

Do you have the solid bearing on the crank side    Is it tight  you can remove and punch the middle down   Or replace with the adjustable bearing cap type        Sorry for the short answers but I am doing this from the phone

[elcarlstono]

Now I'm not so sure it's the bearing.  Now I think it's the spool. 
For one, the tabs on the crank side have to slot into the pinion gear clutch, where as best I can tell will always be a flush fit. 
For another, I'm seeing what appear to be stress cracks on my spool that I can't swear were there before.  Maybe my spool got warped is the more likely possibility?

[oc1]

Good call Leonardo.  Nicely done.