2062 EF vs EG - What a difference a year makes!

[rcmsangab]

Hey all,

The donor reel came in from Fred (beyond generous) and I was surpised at the all the little differences between a 1964 and 1965 Shakespeare 2062 just in one little assembly (see first pic). It is almost like one of those spot the differences games. Also wondering what this black material on inside of faceplate is and is for? (next two pics)?

Russ

PS.found the other missing shim from the EF

[rcmsangab]

Should have mentioned 2 versus 1 oil ports and threaded vs unthreaded main shafts as other differences.

[CincyDavid]

How cool is that? I have always differentiated between early production (pre 1970ish) vs late production, but it's neat to see the evolution.

[rcmsangab]

How cool is that? I have always differentiated between early production (pre 1970ish) vs late production, but it's neat to see the evolution.

FYI- I got the parts reversed chronologically --the EF (1965) parts are on the left and the EG (1964) are on the right.

[Gfish]

Yeah some differences. Even the oscillation arm looks different. Which parts will you use where?

[rcmsangab]

Yeah some differences. Even the oscillation arm looks different. Which parts will you use where?

Was thinking about using the gear, lever screw and small washer from the EG to replace the EF's damaged gear and screw and missing washer (see previous thread). The EG needs some work - the AR lever assembly is broken so I thought I'd complete the EF and use the EG as a parts reel. Is there a signifigant adavatage to to a threaded over non-threaded pin/main shaft interface?
Russ

[oldmanjoe]

 Well you have to use the arm ,pin and axel as one assembly and the other arm screw pin and axle assembly as another .  You may see a difference in line lays from one assembly to another on the spool . 

 From the picture , it does look like the new gear has a little more stroke in it , by a few thousands .

[rcmsangab]

Well you have to use the arm ,pin and axel as one assembly and the other arm screw pin and axle assembly as another .  You may see a difference in line lays from one assembly to another on the spool . 

 From the picture , it does look like the new gear has a little more stroke in it , by a few thousands .

Thanks Joe, so more experimentation and (parts cleaning) is in order. Do you think it makes more sense keep the working gear, arm and axel with associated pin all together? I kind of like the EF's flat on one side AR gear so a newbie like me can't put it in backwards, lol. Also-curious what black lining on inside of face plate is for? Sound?
Russ

[Gfish]

Are the holes in the main gear for the oscillating arm in different locations relative to the center of the gear?

[rcmsangab]

I think in the gear on the left (from the EF) the hole is just blown out from having screw turned wrong way until it snapped off inside. I am away from home right now so will look later-- but how would I measure? From center to center of each hole? Sorry if this is dumb question. Russ

[Gfish]

There are no dumb questions(except the ones you don't ask). Just noticing little things that may well be picture angles.
I really like the Maroon 2062's. Wondering if the different year model parts are all interchangeable.
I decided after reading a post of Midway Tommy's that I wanted just one of maybe the best example of Shakespeare spinners from the 60's that may exist, and got a 2068 Sport Wonder, box , soft carrying case, paperwork and never used. Definitely a shelf-Queen.

[Midway Tommy]

Gear wear and meshing usually makes an awful lot of difference in how smooth a reel works. If I were switching out parts I would keep the main gear with the same pinion and main shaft combo that it came with. That way the amounts of wear should all correspond with each other.

[CincyDavid]

There are no dumb questions(except the ones you don't ask). Just noticing little things that may well be picture angles.
I really like the Maroon 2062's. Wondering if the different year model parts are all interchangeable.
I decided after reading a post of Midway Tommy's that I wanted just one of maybe the best example of Shakespeare spinners from the 60's that may exist, and got a 2068 Sport Wonder, box , soft carrying case, paperwork and never used. Definitely a shelf-Queen.

those 2068s are so cool BUT they sure have gotten expensive.

[oldmanjoe]

Well you have to use the arm ,pin and axel as one assembly and the other arm screw pin and axle assembly as another .  You may see a difference in line lays from one assembly to another on the spool . 

 From the picture , it does look like the new gear has a little more stroke in it , by a few thousands .

Thanks Joe, so more experimentation and (parts cleaning) is in order. Do you think it makes more sense keep the working gear, arm and axel with associated pin all together? I kind of like the EF's flat on one side AR gear so a newbie like me can't put it in backwards, lol. Also-curious what black lining on inside of face plate is for? Sound?
Russ

It could be camera angle , but the gear with the broken screw looks closer to the centerline of the main shaft . and the arms look like the arcs are different .   The side plate looks like a gasket was made and used for waterproofing . 

 I would start off with your old parts first and see how the line lay is .