help me to understand when a tiny #9 roller tip is needed?

[steelfish]

I havent seen a roller tip with a tube size of #9, super thin and small, I cant even imagine when this roller tip can be used on a real world fishing technique.

specially the model and size of the roller of the tip which is huge compared to the size of the tube for the tip end of the blank

have any of you seen a fishing rod with something installed like this before?

I got it along with other thing on a bag of spare guides/tiptops for rodbuilding that a friend gave me.

[boon]

They are used for line-class gamefishing when chasing big fish on thin monofilament. Line weights under 10lb kind of thing. They have been made somewhat redundant by modern SiC guides although you will still see roller tips fairly often, I think the belief is that they increase the bend radius of the line coming off the tip when the rod is lifted.

[steelfish]

They are used for line-class gamefishing when chasing big fish on thin monofilament. Line weights under 10lb kind of thing.

well now that you said it I recall reading about records on catching Marlin, sailfish, etc on 10# mono, I just havent seen a fishing rod with a roller tip like the one in my pics

[Cor]

Looks like a nicely made part!  3.5mm tip on a game rod seems rather small.

Interesting explanation boon.

[JasonGotaProblem]

Seems like pacbay wanted to test the market, see if a component of those dimensions interested anyone. ...and it was with a collection of unused spare parts. So I guess it didn't get used.

Guess it's time to build a weird rod.

[steelfish]

Guess it's time to build a weird rod.

the blank should be pretty thin and graphite, I have a glass rod that the tip end of the blank is the perfect size for that roller tip but the blank bends just for the weight of the roller tip 

[Swami805]

There was a time when I think Loomis made a whole line of rods with light roller guides, a 2 foot stripper guide and single foot running guides all rollers. These were light casting rods. Could be something like that

[Gfish]

Light line & light rod trolling?

[steelfish]

ALPS and aftco has its own line of single foot trollinh guides, surely other brand might have their own version, made for light trolling rods


still hard to understand (to me) the mammoth size of the roller vs the 3.5mm tubo size of the roller tip I posted pics on the 1st post.

[Patudo]

have any of you seen a fishing rod with something installed like this before?

Not me. But if you have a thin but stiff blank (eg. solid carbon or maybe a heavy jig blank) that for whatever reason you wish to use rollers with, it could be suitable. 

FWIW, the rods used for ultra light game fishing (record chasing etc) I have seen in the cockpits of boats that specialised in that sort of thing have had rings.  Firstly, there is the danger of the ultra light mono slipping in between the roller and the guide frame, and secondly, when angling a fish on such light line the angler is either applying a tiny amount of drag when the fish is taking line, to avoid breaking it, or winding like crazy as the boat is backed up after the fish Bat out of Hell style. 

[jiggermyster]

No idea if they're needed but I have a factory Grafighter 800L with all rollers.
It sings a pretty song when fighting football tuna and albies.

[jurelometer]

There is a subset of fisherman out there that like to use rollers for trolling because they like to use rollers for trolling. Some very fancy rollers. I think it is based on tradition from the time when the best saltwater trolling rods had rollers.

Rollers have more utility if you are not casting, not using modern braid (e.g., wire or mono), and/or need to pass knots through the guides.

A roller on the tip is more useful than other spots on the rod because the line angle at the guide can be more acute, and a short section of line can pass back and forth repeatedly through the tip as the rod bends and unbends from certain trolling methods such as high speed surface skirts.  The roller rolls, so there is no friction from rubbing.

But with modern braid and ceramic rings, the coefficient friction is so low that the advantages of rollers rarely outweigh the disadvantages IMHO.


And a big roller for a very small diameter blank tip is a very odd duck.

-J

[JasonGotaProblem]

I'm thinking freshwater trolling