Braid fishing line lubricant.

[JasonGotaProblem]

In summary, the amount of friction involved when line is passing through the guides during a cast is so small, that attempts to optimize it are extremely unlikely to affect casting performance.

This would seem to fly in the face of the now famous Fuji KR Concept.  I always suspected that Fuji was full of bologna.

The last thing I want is greasy fishing line.

That has to do with guide shape, the rings they use are available on the prior generation. I'm sure we can all agree that guide layout has a huge influence on casting performance on a spinner. It's not unreasonable that guide shape is important too.

And they're lighter. But in general all marketing is hogwash anyway.

[jurelometer]

In summary, the amount of friction involved when line is passing through the guides during a cast is so small, that attempts to optimize it are extremely unlikely to affect casting performance.

This would seem to fly in the face of the now famous Fuji KR Concept.  I always suspected that Fuji was full of bologna.

The last thing I want is greasy fishing line.

[Jason and I responded at the same time.  Gonna leave  my post here as it has a few more details]

Yeah, a lot of BS in fishing tackle marketing.  Also agree with you on the greasy line. 

But to give Fuji a tiny bit of credit:  I forget which generation the Fuji Concept series is, but the most recent one is based on the sound theory that sliding friction on the ring surface is not the main problem that can be addressed with guide design, but rather the coils and waves of line smacking into the guide frames and to a lesser extent, the blank.  Impact force is a function of deceleration, so the speed that the line is moving is now part of the equation. A much bigger deal.  The guides are designed and placed to minimize impact. Still playing at the margins, but at least it is a larger component of the big picture than sliding friction.  Realistically, if your guides magically disappeared when you released a cast, I doubt that the line would travel that much farther unless your guide choice and layout was  screwed up.

You can get these new Fuji frames with the lower end inserts (Fazlite?) which in addition to being much less expensive, also will generally be tougher than the high end inserts, as harder = more brittle.  Same casting distance,  more durable, lower price.  What's not to like?

-J

[Flat Top]

Sorry I brought up the topic, but lubed fishing lines have been used for years by professional and non-professional anglers so there must be something to it and it works for me. Most commercial line lubes are silicone based and they haven't been banned by the government yet so the impact on the aquatic environment must be negligible.

Once the sprayed silicone is dry and the propellant has dissipated/evaporated there is no greasy residue on the line. It feels just like factory braided line right out of the box.

By the way, I am not saying that I am right or wrong here. This is only 'My Opinion" based on "My Experience" with the silicone on the braid that I use.

If you have never tried it, I suggest that you do, then comment. If you have tried it I would like to hear your opinions...positive and negative.

[oc1]

Will silicone prevent PowerPro from becoming fuzzy?  That's something I could get on board with.

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Will silicone prevent PowerPro from becoming fuzzy?  That's something I could get on board with.

I dont notice any fuzz when inspecting my braid. All I can say is give it a try.

[wfjord]

I suppose everyone who uses braid at some point notices some fuzz developing on their line. But being able to see the fuzziness might be a good thing as it enables you to monitor the condition of your line. If you squirt something on the line to hide the fuzz, you might end up masking some line damage that you'd want to know about, regardless of how tough and strong braid is.

So far as I notice on my reels, fuzzy braid syndrome hasn't seemed to negatively affect line strength or casting. If braid eventually starts looking too ragged I'd probably change it if it worried me enough.

[Flat Top]

I suppose everyone who uses braid at some point notices some fuzz developing on their line. But being able to see the fuzziness might be a good thing as it enables you to monitor the condition of your line. If you squirt something on the line to hide the fuzz, you might end up masking some line damage that you'd want to know about, regardless of how tough and strong braid is.

So far as I notice on my reels, fuzzy braid syndrome hasn't seemed to negatively affect line strength or casting. If braid eventually starts looking too ragged I'd probably change it if it worried me enough.

I think what oc1 was talking about was using the silicone treatment to prevent the fuzziness, not to fix it....but, not sure on that. I usually fish new braid as it comes a couple of times and then I treat it with silicone every few times and have not noticed the fuzziness that oc1 talked about. Its possible that different brand braids have different characteristics or the rod guides are a bit rough or there is debris (dried salt or sand/dirt, etc) in the guides. I fish dirty river water so I am always checking my guides for debris and after they are clean I apply the silicone...which helps keep them that way for a few outings. Preventive maintenance.

[oldmanjoe]

    Woo nobody uses chapstick ?   I don't either  .   But Downy fabric softener is my go to , best for cast nets and mono , works with braid too . And it is not 10 dollars plus a ounce !

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   Woo nobody uses chapstick ?   I don't either  .   But Downy fabric softener is my go to , best for cast nets and mono , works with braid too . And it is not 10 dollars plus a ounce !

Good one!!! I have also seen some hair conditioners (which by the way contain SILICONE...check the label) used as well. Yes, the commercial fishing line lubes are very expensive and for the most part all but a few contain SILICONE. I just purchase my silicone in its pure form and save $$$$.