penn 113H maroon senator special convertion

Alto Mare · July 17, 2012, 03:09:24 AM

Joe, you said you had the parts. I believe that Alan has the left handed ss sleeve. You better send hin a message to make sure.

Alto Mare · July 17, 2012, 03:11:34 AM

Quote from: Pescachaser on July 17, 2012, 03:00:30 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 17, 2012, 02:54:23 AM
Dominick, no I don't believe so, the grease isn't blue $:-\$ .
Sal: Go back and look again after the zin wears off. Dominick

You got me Dominick, I just noticed the Masters' hand.

joe_dejesus · July 17, 2012, 03:12:25 AM

yes.. i have the following: 3-113HLH bridge assembly , 5-113HLH main gear , 13-113HLH pinion

what I have read once something is changed to SS i should change a few other components correct?

Dominick · July 17, 2012, 03:19:47 AM

Sal: Isn't it true that if Joe uses the same plate turned around that he has to grind a spot to place the dog for the left hand sleeve? If that is true then he should make it double dogged. Dominick

seaeagle2 · July 17, 2012, 04:47:34 AM

If you're going to pull these apart, you should get a stock of dog springs, Scott's Penn Parts among others has them. If you put a little dab of grease on the dog spring, it will help keep it around.

Alto Mare · July 17, 2012, 09:58:16 AM

Quote from: Pescachaser on July 17, 2012, 03:19:47 AM
Sal: Isn't it true that if Joe uses the same plate turned around that he has to grind a spot to place the dog for the left hand sleeve? If that is true then he should make it double dogged. Dominick

Now you're giving me a chance to get back to you

. Go back and read what I wrote in my first statement.

Keta · July 17, 2012, 01:24:35 PM

Quote from: seaeagle2 on July 17, 2012, 04:47:34 AM
If you're going to pull these apart, you should get a stock of dog springs, Scott's Penn Parts among others has them. If you put a little dab of grease on the dog spring, it will help keep it around.

I still send these flying once in a while and keep several in stock.

Quote from: joe_dejesus on July 17, 2012, 03:12:25 AM
what I have read once something is changed to SS i should change a few other components correct?

A matching SS dog is a good idea. I still have some, send me a PM if you are interested.

joe_dejesus · July 17, 2012, 02:00:25 PM

Quote from: Keta on July 17, 2012, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: seaeagle2 on July 17, 2012, 04:47:34 AM
If you're going to pull these apart, you should get a stock of dog springs, Scott's Penn Parts among others has them. If you put a little dab of grease on the dog spring, it will help keep it around.

I still send these flying once in a while and keep several in stock.

Quote from: joe_dejesus on July 17, 2012, 03:12:25 AM
what I have read once something is changed to SS i should change a few other components correct?

A matching SS dog is a good idea. I still have some, send me a PM if you are interested.

Remember it has to be for LEFT HAND crank, I dont think they make SS for lefty's... If in fact they are LEFT do let me know

thanks
Joe

Bryan Young · July 17, 2012, 02:06:24 PM

Dogs are the same for left and right hand crank. You just flip the dog. You will also need a left hand star. Other than that, you should be good to go.

I've only lost a dog, and no spring. Go figure. I normally disassemble theses reels where the plate is on the top and the bridge is down. The spring usually pops off onto the cloth that I use I cover the table.
Good luck. Looks to be a fun project.

joe_dejesus · July 17, 2012, 02:11:40 PM

Quote from: Bryan Young on July 17, 2012, 02:06:24 PM
Dogs are the same for left and right hand crank. You just flip the dog. You will also need a left hand star. Other than that, you should be good to go.

I've only lost a dog, and no spring. Go figure. I normally disassemble theses reels where the plate is on the top and the bridge is down. The spring usually pops off onto the cloth that I use I cover the table.
Good luck. Looks to be a fun project.

when as ss dog is used, isnt there another componentds that also needs changed to SS (a sleeve?) no SS sleeves exist for lefty I believe.. or can dog be changed out to SS asnd leave other components non-SS ?

thanks
Joe

Keta · July 17, 2012, 04:32:05 PM

I wouldn't put a hard SS dog on a "soft" brass sleeve.

Bryan Young · July 17, 2012, 06:49:22 PM

Quote from: joe_dejesus on July 17, 2012, 02:11:40 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on July 17, 2012, 02:06:24 PM
Dogs are the same for left and right hand crank. You just flip the dog. You will also need a left hand star. Other than that, you should be good to go.

I've only lost a dog, and no spring. Go figure. I normally disassemble theses reels where the plate is on the top and the bridge is down. The spring usually pops off onto the cloth that I use I cover the table.
Good luck. Looks to be a fun project.

when as ss dog is used, isnt there another componentds that also needs changed to SS (a sleeve?) no SS sleeves exist for lefty I believe.. or can dog be changed out to SS asnd leave other components non-SS ?

thanks
Joe

Don't know if there are any left. Alan is getting ready to depart on his vacation and unfortunatley, I'm flying out to Vancouver, WA again tomorrow unexpectedly. May need to wait until Alan gets back before we can answer this one.

joe_dejesus · July 17, 2012, 06:52:53 PM

Im having bad luck locating a marron left crack side plate part# 1-113HLH

Anyone know where to get one???,

Thanks
Joe

Alto Mare · July 17, 2012, 09:21:55 PM

Joe, I just got home and checked my parts, some of us have to work for a living

. The only ones I have are the red plates(not marroon), these are the the injection mold plate. don't ask me to send you a picture, my computer is shot and i can barely communicate with you. the plates are in excellent shape and I'm sure they will do just fine. Let me know if you want me to send them to you...these would be on me. The left plate needs a clicker button, Scott's has them and they're very easy to install, i will also send you the left side bearing, I'm not sure that you'll be able to find this one. If you didn't want these, try Dan Williamson from www.reelygone.com, he might be able to help you. His phone # is listed on his site.
About the ss sleeve, I'm going to recommend that you let it go for now and focus on your left handed conversion, The dogs don't need to be ss in this case and if you add two, you[ll still be ahead.
If that doesn't do it for you and you're still set on the ss sleeve, try www.elec-tra-mate.com,. There is a possibility that they could fix you up with one, but it ain going to be cheap.
Sal

joe_dejesus · July 24, 2012, 02:10:54 AM

sorry for not being on here (also been busy working)

I resolved the left side crank plates by getting a good deal from jeff at tiburon... Got the narrow conversion
with sideplates (thought the gold would look cool)

My 113H has drag washers that are think and looks like carbon fiber material.. I ordered the smooth drag washers
and maybe im wrong, they look whimpy and are very thin... not to mention not sure what side of washers goes where..

will these smoothdrags work better? the white side goes to what side on the stack?

thanks
Joe