113(Black)YTS or Grouper Special?

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alantani

#30
October 23, 2012, 10:05:28 PM
very nice!  santa in a bryan suit!  gotta remember that one.....   ;D
send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!

George4741

#31
October 24, 2012, 02:00:03 AM
Ron,
What will you use for a reel foot on your narrowed 113?  A Newell or a full Accurate or Tib frame?

George
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Ron Jones

#32
October 24, 2012, 02:04:44 AM
I have a Newell stand coming for one...and I'm playing with the idea of an adapter that will allow me to use the 66 stand for the other, their are a few other ideas retling around in my head.

Ron
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George4741

#33
October 24, 2012, 02:19:40 AM Last Edit: October 24, 2012, 01:43:30 PM by George4741
An adapter would be a novel idea.  The Newells are getting harder to find.

I read somewhere how some of the old-school guys would slightly flatten out a 30-99 stand to use on some of their first narrowed 4/0 Senators.  Of course, -99 stands are now rarer than hens teeth.  I don't know if all six screw holes lined up. :-\
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Ron Jones

#34
October 24, 2012, 02:37:07 AM
My big issue will be seeing if the 66 holes line up with the 113 outer holes, or if the spacing is different.

Ron
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SeaDawg

#35
November 12, 2012, 05:22:37 AM
You guys are amazing - I google things concerning reels I'm working on, or considering buying, and I get directed here :)

I have limited experience, but I am learning...........great thread here.........

I found it interesting that there were steel main gears and this info got me wondering, and looking......

Is it possible to accurately see if the main gears are steel from a picture?? In my search, I came across the following pictures of gears for sale, they sure look steel to me, but the description does not say.

Can you tell anything from these pictures :)
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George4741

#36
November 12, 2012, 05:59:15 PM Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 06:01:18 PM by George4741
Yes, they all look steel to me.  Hopefully they'll send send you the gear pictured and you will be OK.

Also, welcome to the forum, SeaDawg.
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alantani

#37
November 12, 2012, 07:36:20 PM
yes, these are all steel, but they are plain high carbon steel and they will rust.  these are not hardened stainless steel gears like the accurate or newell gear sets. 
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Ron Jones

#38
November 12, 2012, 11:27:38 PM
Alan,
I would be shocked if they weren't hardened. All steel can be heat treated and is almost always the case. The hardening doesn't make it corrosion resistant, but if these gears were dead soft they would deform and wear quicker than bronze.
Ron
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SeaDawg

#39
November 13, 2012, 03:31:30 AM Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 03:32:53 AM by SeaDawg
Thanks for the welcome & responses  :)
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Keta

#40
November 13, 2012, 04:08:33 AM Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 04:09:54 AM by Keta
The third photo down looks like some kind of SS.  400 series SS is magnetic and will "rust" but the rusty one (second photo) looks like iron oxide rust not SS rust.
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Cone

#41
November 14, 2012, 01:01:15 AM
George, great post. Those oldtimers weren't afraid to try to make their reels better for their use. You inspire us. As for the gear in the second pic. I had a ss gear that looked like that until I cleaned the old dried brown lube off it. It's hard to tell sometimes from a pic though. Bob
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George4741

#42
November 15, 2012, 03:46:03 AM
Bob, thank you for the kind words.  I'm having a lot of fun here.  As you probably see from other posts, there are a number of members out there improving their reels in ways Penn ever envisioned. 
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day0ne

#43
November 15, 2012, 06:32:25 AM
Just an FYI. The bars from a 113HL of course fit a 113 (nice upgrade). but they also can be made to fit a LongBeach 67 by drilling and tapping two holes in each bar. Add an aluminum spool and a few stainless parts and it makes a nice reel. I did this to a friends 67 that had sentimental value and he ws very happy.
David


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Ron Jones

#44
November 15, 2012, 07:45:24 AM
That is pretty much what we are doing here, only with Newell parts and a Long Beach 66 spool to make a YTS. I have 2 66s on the way and am really considering just Newellizing the 66s to take advantage of the higher gear ratio and the open top. The 67 idea is great, you end up with a 4/0 that is stronger and open topped with a higher gear ratio than the 4/0 and less cost than the 113H.

Ron
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