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Started by alantani, January 09, 2016, 10:07:19 PM

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Swami805

I'm no expert but it looks like stainless to me. You should put some backing on it before loading it with mono with a 3 piece spool.
Do what you can with that you have where you are

Benni3

That's a problem with the penn torque 7 and 9,,,, ;) you could straighting it out and weld it to give more straight but that's my only option,,,,, ;D

Steelyfinn

Thanks for the replies.

I'll stick with the Dacron backing since it's a 3 piece spool, but I'm still curious if the flanges and arbor are chromed brass or stainless.  When searching the topic here, I see both suggested.  Has anyone ever cut into a 3 piece spool with this finish to actually see if there's brass underneath?


Bill B

The spool looks to be stainless steel.  Try sticking a magnet to it.  While not always accurate it might tell you if it is.  And yes definitely put some Dacron on the spool first.  Bill
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

Steelyfinn

Thanks for the suggestion, Bill.

I tried the magnet test when I first looked at it, but it wasn't magnetic.  I expected this, but had to check some stainless around the shop and a kitchen pan to confirm that they are all the same.

I'll eventually find a trashed spool with this finish and do a little destructive test to find out.

Thanks all,
Jon



philaroman

fridge magnet...  rare-earth magnet...  or something in-between (strength-wise)?

Keta

The spool is chrome plated brass.

Any magnet will work but some grades of stainless  steel are magnetic.
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Steelyfinn

Thanks for the answer Lee.

I was trying several magnets to see if it could be a magnetic stainless, but thought it was unlikely.

Jon

alantani

QuoteThe 300-series stainless steels have varying degrees of nickel making them mostly non-magnetic. Devoid of nickel and with a grain structure similar to carbon steel, the 400-series stainless steels are slightly magnetic.
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Shellbelly

The #9 and 109 came with a Chromed brass spool even when the other level wind reels had changed to stainless.  If yours had asbestos drags, the original spool was very likely chromed brass.  Also, the 9 you have is rated for 15# mono.  No backing is called for by Penn.  It is designed and was guaranteed to handle 15# mono.  They are good strong reels and fun to use.  Perfect for big sheepshead in my world.  Never had a spool go south on me in my life. 

While yours is technically a 3-piece spool, it isn't the type that was coming apart in the early days of monofilament line.

I believe someone has already cut various spools open, pulled them apart, etc.  The photos and discussions are around here somewhere.
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lumberjack

How do I start a thread?
Just tore down my Penn 114h and shaft was frozen on pinion gear.  Soaked it , then put heat on it and got it off.
So the bearing that is in the cup on the Rt side is really stuck in there?
I have a new bearing on order, but need to get this one out.
I didn't want to damage cup, cause only ordered bearing!!
Any suggestions?
Thanks all

JasonGotaProblem

Quote from: lumberjack on July 24, 2023, 02:45:32 PMHow do I start a thread?
Just tore down my Penn 114h and shaft was frozen on pinion gear.  Soaked it , then put heat on it and got it off.
So the bearing that is in the cup on the Rt side is really stuck in there?
I have a new bearing on order, but need to get this one out.
I didn't want to damage cup, cause only ordered bearing!!
Any suggestions?
Thanks all
Go to the intended subforum and click "user actions" one of the options will be to start a new thread.

Re: the specific question: probably shoulda ordered a bearing cup while you were at it.

Options exist. But by my understanding none of them are 100% successful on 100% of reels.

You may have to make a DIY bearing puller. Lots of options there.
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Gfish

Ah, the bane of used Senators; bearings corroded/stuck in the cup. That press-in cup makes it kinda difficult to service without pulling apart the whole gear-side system. Too bad both cups don't screw in 'n out for easy service.
Best for me is solvent soak, heating/freezing, then working gradually both the keeper, the the bearing with a prying tool the you may have to make yourself As Jason stated.
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Bill B

I've had some luck, albeit sketchy, by using a punch to pound wet pieces of paper towel into the and under the bearing. Lots of solvent and heat before starting.  You may end up denting the cup but worth a try.  Bill
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!