ok, here's the reel. it's a massive duel 12/0 and the high speed pinion gear is shot. there was also an allen head machine screw that was already rounded off that i tried to remove and just broke off. then i was able to use a large "gator grip" and removed the handle nut in one piece, which is something i should have done to begin with. anyway, does anyone know the guy that used to have duel parts here in the us? or know what happened to that inventory? or can anyone that speaks italian connect up with the company and get us a high speed pinion gear, the allen head screw, and maybe even the handle nut? been sort of swamped with "other" things lately. could use a little help with this one. i already send a message to duel and i am waiting to hear back, but i am not hopeful. here is the reel.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/1_21_05_17_10_30_59_171581937.jpeg)
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/1_21_05_17_10_31_33_171591503.jpeg)
here is the shredded high speed pinion gear. i'm guessing that it is pressed on to the drive shaft, maybe even "keyed."
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/1_21_05_17_10_31_53_17160539.jpeg)
the main gear looks perfect!
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/1_21_05_17_10_32_23_171612237.jpeg)
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/1_21_05_17_10_33_13_171621979.jpeg)
here is the handle nut that i unnecessarily drilled out.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/1_21_05_17_10_33_52_17163257.jpeg)
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/1_21_05_17_10_34_15_171641552.jpeg)
i can probably get a stainless steel machine screw to fit. muscling out what is left of the screw should be no problem! it might be best to get replacements anyway. thanks! alan
Quote from: alantani on May 21, 2017, 05:56:02 PM
... can anyone that speaks italian connect up with the company ... i already send a message to duel and i am waiting to hear back, but i am not hopeful.
His name is Roberto. He writes english well enough. Today is Sunday, so you won't get an answer today, but soon enough I should think. I don't remember the american guy right now; maybe it will come to me.*
*mmmmwait... jim?
Hi Alan.
I'm getting 2 more Duals in for servicing. Can you wait a week so I can see if I need parts? We can order parts together because the minimum shipping charge is $25 for fedex international, and I might need parts too.
You may email them at antal@antal.it
They understand English very well.
Bryan
I have dealt with Chris Martel, and Keith Wickman on obtaining Everol parts here in the US.
I remember asking Chris for help getting parts for a Duel, and he was unable to help.. so thats not much help.
I think someone here (likely Dr. Janssen?) put me in touch with a guy via phone that helped me immediately. I don't have his info in an email string, and am having trouble locating the original PM.
Edit.. I can't find it cause it doesn't exist
Jim sounds familar?
Check with JDL treasures, they gave a bunch of Duel parts and will likely be your best bet
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18865.0
Seeing as how both myself and mr. Janssen are unable to locate the contact info on the US Duel parts guy at the moment.
John
Alan all the parts you need are on ebay. I just looked.
Mike
seriously??!! i'll take a look!!!!!! thanks!!!!! ;D
found it! wow! $99.95 for a pinion gear set! it's jdl treasures. i'll keep it as a back up. bryan, i'll wait until you get your list together and then we'll see about ordering all at once.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DUEL-BIG-GAME-REEL-PART-12-0-108-12-0-110-Two-Speed-12-0-Gear-B-Gear-D-/302039557531?hash=item4652f5e59b:g:F9YAAOSw65FXrOJf
That was to easy Alan. But ouch for the price. The whole reel sells for under 500.00 dollars.
Mike
i took a look back a while. i thought it was closer to $2500!
Your right about $1800.00 to $1900.00 dollars. The smallest model is around $500.00.
Mike
Here is the pinion gear only, for $50
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DUEL-BIG-GAME-REEL-PART-12-0-13-08-Two-Speed-12-0-Gear-B-/351808064226?hash=item51e9650ae2:g:qYUAAOSw-itXrOMT
PS: not sure why there is a spring on it in the picture
thanks! that would work better! now to just find a machine screw!
Italian reels generally use standard metric thread screws.
Alan, if you can find parts easy enough from eBay, go for it. Don't wait for me.
i ordered the gear already. it should be here on friday! thanks, all!!!!!
it's been 2 months. unfortunately, jdl treasures did not work out. got the wrong parts. can anyone talk to duel in italy for me? i would really appreciate it. the reel has been sitting here too long. any help would really be appreciated. thanks! alan
if possible, i would like to order the large and small pinion gears with the spool shaft already attached. i'm not sure how to separate them.
I know there is a pin that holds them together but I'm not sure how to get the pin out because it's not a through hole.
Hmm, sorry to hear that. JDL still has parts. I'm not sure how they are pinned either.
The guy at Antal (=Duel) is/was Roberto, who usually responded quickly and easily to emails. I first came across him over twenty years ago; maybe he has retired or moved on by now.
Anyway, i am under the impression you need part 108, so-called Gear B:
...or just Gear B by itself, if you can figure out the pin bit. (i still don't understand why there is a spring on it in the picture) That whole assembly looks like it just slips onto the spool shaft.
yeah, these were the wrong size. the low speed pinion gear (110) is also damaged. i think the gears shown are intended for the gold reels. i'm working on one that is anodized brown. perhaps i'll have to send the gears to jdl treasures and see if they can match something up.
anyone have a phone number for jdl treasures?
Sending PM. Rudy
Duel is still making reels, but I don't have any because of this problem with parts.
Italian reels are of fine quality.
If it was an Everol, it would be no problem getting parts.
But, I haven't heard of Everol's ever having gear problems,
or any other that doesn't feature neglect. ;)
Its Awesome to see you back at it Alan.
I wish I could be more help with this reel, but I don't know anything about them, except the two speed is automatic.
Daron
There we go. I made a few pinions, differing a few hundredths mm in order ascertain a perfect fit. That last one is absolutely spot-on. Should purr like a kitten. I used stainless steel. I will finish the assembly later today and poke it in the mail later. You should have it all together soon enough, Alan.
For future reference, JDL Treasures will sometimes take offers. I've had them sell me parts at 1/2 their asking price after I counter-offered. Must be some kinda business model for 'em to start out with high price offers.
Gfish
Well Alan, looks like Robert has you fixed, good thing someone, set up this forum, ay, cheers Don.
thanks, doc! let me know how much i owe you!!!! ;D
Great Work Doc! Wow!!! :o
absolutely amazing!
Ive wanted one of these reels for a long time. I have to say this scenario has dampened the desire a bit... Jeff