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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: pitchinwedge on June 27, 2018, 10:44:53 PM

Title: Trinidad 14a - do i need new Belleville washers?
Post by: pitchinwedge on June 27, 2018, 10:44:53 PM
Is the drag on my Trini 14a is working correctly?

With the star backed off, there is zero resistance on the spool.  Drag continues to be virtually non-existent until the star is almost completely button down. At which point, turning the star is very difficult and just a couple of clicks increases drag from 2lbs to 5lbs to 10lbs+.  Date stamp says mfg in Jan 2018. 

Could the Belleville washers be bad?  They were installed in the () position.  The gap of the inner edge of the washers looks narrow? Some pics of the washers are attached.

Just want to know if this normal or if I should buy some washers and fix it myself, send it off for warranty, or look for some other solution.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Trinidad 14a - do i need new Belleville washers?
Post by: handi2 on June 27, 2018, 11:09:14 PM
They are a little flat. You also need the part bearing thrust washer. I use these to take up the slack you are referring to. Even on new reels I may add one. Off hand I dont know the size of the main shaft on your reel. If you look at a schematic it will show that part.

The bearing thrust washer is the same exact size as the roller clutch inner tube. This way the washer will not effect or hang up when tightening the drag all the way. You can add a couple to the top of the clutch inner tube. The tube inside the clutch bearing.
Title: Re: Trinidad 14a - do i need new Belleville washers?
Post by: pitchinwedge on June 28, 2018, 04:25:35 PM
Thanks for the help handi2.

Damn.  Only 6 months since mfg date and I've never used the reel.  For the few weeks I've had it, I stored it with the drag backed off all the way.  Do these coned disk springs go bad easily? Thinking of getting extra washers for future use.  I plan to order the parts highlighted below.  Do I need anything else?



Title: Re: Trinidad 14a - do i need new Belleville washers?
Post by: handi2 on June 28, 2018, 09:53:29 PM
If you buy the new spring washers get the 8H only. They are thicker than the light ones. Get 4 or more of the bearing thrust washers. They will fit other reels too.
Title: Re: Trinidad 14a - do i need new Belleville washers?
Post by: Cor on June 29, 2018, 08:01:38 AM
I have been battling with a similar problem on my Tranxes, the washers are certainly "flatter" then the ones shown here.   Thanks for the info handi2!

My only problem is trying to get hold of new ones, Shimano spares or generic stuff like this is very hard to source. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Trinidad 14a - do i need new Belleville washers?
Post by: pitchinwedge on June 29, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
I called shimano and they are sending replacement Belleville's only.  Will see how it goes.