I recently acquired a 6500c4 with iar and I would like to add the silent dog. What is the best place to source those parts and what pitfalls/ difficultys are associated with this modification? Seem to be some dead end posts on this already not sure if anyone has posted the full steps of the modification. Thanks in advance!
check to see if your bridge plate has the little stud for the pawl. if it does, just toss one on. if it does not, you may have to get a new bridge plate and pawl. never looked at this before, so i'm not sure. anyone else? :-\
Ok thanks Alan I haven't had time to crack it open yet so will try and get to it this week.
I know the newest record reels have IAR and a dog the RCN blue-ish as well as 6500 inshores.The brake plates can be quite pricey. It might be more cost effective to mount your own post. If I can find a link or another source there is a way to do it yourself. A lot of this just depends on the year of the reel in question. Some newer reels have the post for a dog.
The dogs are available in the u.s. Check ebay. the post last i checked are only available in sweden.Gonna cost bout 20-30 bucks after shipping.
http://shop.lundgrensfiske.com/product.asp?product=12012
You are better off buying the sideplate which has the post already in it.
The procedure is put the post in the hole. Turn the sideplate over. Using a punch and a hammer deform the end of the post so it will be fixed to the sideplate. The caveat is you will need to find a way so that the sideplate is laying flat and the post is held in place so you can hammer the post. If you dont you may end up having a dog post on a ruined sideplate.
Careful buying random brake plates because some years have longer posts for the gear shafts. Then you will be cutting it as well.
Buy the dog and pin set in the link above.
This will help, alantani.com/index.php?topic=2631.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=2631.0)
so i cracked it open to find a set plate with no dog post. i have a local tackle shop that has some set plates with dogs but they were unsure about interchangeability. anyone have a part number that they know works???
Im in the same boat with my 6500c3
Already have the dog but my bridge dont have the post/pin
Im following this with interest
Order a pin from the above link.
I have yet to run inti interchangeability issue between C3 and C4 reels.
Quote from: Keta on November 21, 2016, 07:00:18 PM
Order a pin from the above link.
I have yet to run inti interchangeability issue between C3 and C4 reels.
Fully agree with Lee on this. The kit is the least expensive way to go. Only certain plates have that pin and you're looking at almost double the price of the kit. C3 and C4 are same except a push button, gear ratio and an extra bearing.
Quote from: Surfwrangler on November 21, 2016, 04:24:26 PM
so i cracked it open to find a set plate with no dog post. i have a local tackle shop that has some set plates with dogs but they were unsure about interchangeability. anyone have a part number that they know works???
If it came from a reel with IAR it should work.
So I checked out the plates available and determined that there were not any suitable for the swap out because I have a left handed model and the pin would need to be on the other side. So I am just going to fish it as is and if the IAR fails I may order the pin from the link above. Thanks everyone for the input.
Quote from: Surfwrangler on November 21, 2016, 08:16:11 PM
So I checked out the plates available and determined that there were not any suitable for the swap out because I have a left handed model and the pin would need to be on the other side. So I am just going to fish it as is and if the IAR fails I may order the pin from the link above. Thanks everyone for the input.
6501C4 ?;)
Mine are all lefthand.
Find it odd a tackleshop had brake plates that were for all right handed reels.
As I understand it you guys added the dog and pin to your existing plate. I could also do that but was looking for a quick easy swap out of a plate that already had dog and pin. "The tackle shop only had plates with pins on the opposite side (right hand) whereas I would need one that was mirrored so that I could reel forward otherwise backwards would be forward. Dizzy yet. Anyways I may still do it one day but will be fine for now.
Quote from: jzman on November 20, 2016, 07:28:31 PM
The dogs are available in the u.s. Check ebay. the post last i checked are only available in sweden.Gonna cost bout 20-30 bucks after shipping.
http://shop.lundgrensfiske.com/product.asp?product=12012
You are better off buying the sideplate which has the post already in it.
hmm $30 bucks for the post as a second AR system.. kind on the expesive side for me considering the targeted species
the stock 6500c3 have served really good with my from-shore fisheries.
maybe after the too many reel upgrade projects Im currently running
They were much cheeper when I did mine. The pin would not be that hard to make on a lathe.
Quote from: Surfwrangler on November 23, 2016, 12:13:20 AM
As I understand it you guys added the dog and pin to your existing plate. I could also do that but was looking for a quick easy swap out of a plate that already had dog and pin. "The tackle shop only had plates with pins on the opposite side (right hand) whereas I would need one that was mirrored so that I could reel forward otherwise backwards would be forward. Dizzy yet. Anyways I may still do it one day but will be fine for now.
It took me less than 5 min to put the pins in 3 reels, not counting the time to take them apart and reassemble.
Quote from: Keta on November 23, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
They were much cheeper when I did mine. The pin would not be that hard to make on a lathe.
well, maybe there is a big market for a pin post to add a dog, who knows....
if you ever decide to make some of those pins I would need 3 at least.
Quote from: steelfish on November 23, 2016, 12:58:40 AM
Quote from: Keta on November 23, 2016, 12:42:38 AM
They were much cheeper when I did mine. The pin would not be that hard to make on a lathe.
well, maybe there is a big market for a pin post to add a dog, who knows....
if you ever decide to make some of those pins I would need 3 at least.
Remind me, my machinest friend is elk hunting in a blizzard for a week.
Sure, my friend
A 6000TG brake plate has the pin already on it and should fit right in place. I dropped a 6501C4 and bent the clicker side plate badly once. so Ibought a new frame and brake plate and side plates and pressed the anti reverse bearing in place and ended up with a 6000 TG with the dog and instant anti reverse.
Quote from: hurt locker on November 23, 2016, 02:32:44 AM
A 6000TG brake plate has the pin already on it and should fit right in place.
not familiar with that model, I couldnt find it on a quick search
Quote from: steelfish on November 23, 2016, 02:41:43 AM
Quote from: hurt locker on November 23, 2016, 02:32:44 AM
A 6000TG brake plate has the pin already on it and should fit right in place.
not familiar with that model, I couldnt find it on a quick search
If you Google "Abu 6000TG" on the fist page are 4 schematics. Click on the 3rd one in, it shows the pin and the dog. Hope this helps. TG stands for Tournament Grade.
My mistake " click on third one under images.
I talked to my machenest friend and he said his lathe will hold the material and he will make some pins.
Let me know if you want one.
Quote from: Keta on November 27, 2016, 02:52:55 AM
I talked to my machenest friend and he said his lathe will hold the material and he will make some pins.
Let me know if you want one.
If thats for me I Will need 3 at least Lee
Got it Alex, I will add 2 more to yours.
Have there been issue's with Abu instant anti reverse bearings failing? I've been using Abu's for years and never had one fail on me. I've caught lots of heavy fish, bull reds, jacks, trout, small sharks......etc. I haven't had any problems with my instant anti reverse, but I don't button the drags down tight either. I'm just wondering how much of an issue it is with the targeted fish species that folks use that size reel for.
I have heard that in cold - below zero- conditions iar may start to slip.
Quote from: GulfOfBothnia on December 11, 2016, 02:12:25 PM
I have heard that in cold - below zero- conditions iar may start to slip.
They can slip and if a fast moving fish is on the handle hurts. I fish albacore with my 5601's and do not want to risk a broken finger.
Quote from: mley1 on December 10, 2016, 05:54:56 PM
Have there been issue's with Abu instant anti reverse bearings failing? I've been using Abu's for years and never had one fail on me. I've caught lots of heavy fish, bull reds, jacks, trout, small sharks......etc. I haven't had any problems with my instant anti reverse, but I don't button the drags down tight either. I'm just wondering how much of an issue it is with the targeted fish species that folks use that size reel for.
its all for the love of tinkering good reels and make them better, that's it
I'd buy three pins if they are made!
Quote from: redfish12 on December 15, 2016, 01:38:04 AM
I'd buy three pins if they are made!
My machenest friend had a hard time chucking the material in his lathe and as of now Alex has all made. I will see if I can find someone eith a smaller lathe.
Thanks!
Is it possible that the dog post is on the same side on both right and left hand retrieve models but the dog is just flipped/oriented opposite??? Or is there a clearance issue.... just brainstorming here.
Quote from: jzman on November 20, 2016, 07:28:31 PM
The dogs are available in the u.s. Check ebay. the post last i checked are only available in sweden.Gonna cost bout 20-30 bucks after shipping.
http://shop.lundgrensfiske.com/product.asp?product=12012
You are better off buying the sideplate which has the post already in it.
The procedure is put the post in the hole. Turn the sideplate over. Using a punch and a hammer deform the end of the post so it will be fixed to the sideplate. The caveat is you will need to find a way so that the sideplate is laying flat and the post is held in place so you can hammer the post. If you dont you may end up having a dog post on a ruined sideplate.
Does anybody know of a source for these studs now? I went to buy some but I couldn't pick "United States" from the drop down during checkout. Seems they don't ship to this side of the world anymore?
Dunno. Didn't see anything about it in their terms & conditions. Just email them and ask whydoncha. The guy who runs their web shop speaks english. Unless he is on vacation.
I have an abu garcia 5500cs and i would like to buy a brake plate with a dog post on it. Does anyone know any compatible models i could use?
Quote from: Corroded on September 07, 2019, 09:06:20 PM
I have an abu garcia 5500cs and i would like to buy a brake plate with a dog post on it. Does anyone know any compatible models i could use?
This should work: https://www.ereplacementparts.com/brake-plt-6500csrocketchrome-p-1436558.html
Thanks tincanary! I ordered a plate and a dog ill let you guys know how it goes as soon as I put it together.
So i got the chrome rocket plate with dog post to install in my 5500cs and i noticed when i put my drive shaft(from my 5500cs) onto the drive shaft post of the chrome rocket plate there was play at the top of the post. Comparing the 5500 post with the chrome rocket post it appears the chrome rocket post narrows at the top. Am I missing something? Maybe a sleeve to go on the post? I checked ereplacement parts diagram and it said the drive shafts are compatible for both models. Any help with this issue would be greatly appreciated.
Quote from: Corroded on February 17, 2020, 06:50:44 PM
So i got the chrome rocket plate with dog post to install in my 5500cs and i noticed when i put my drive shaft(from my 5500cs) onto the drive shaft post of the chrome rocket plate there was play at the top of the post. Comparing the 5500 post with the chrome rocket post it appears the chrome rocket post narrows at the top. Am I missing something? Maybe a sleeve to go on the post? I checked ereplacement parts diagram and it said the drive shafts are compatible for both models. Any help with this issue would be greatly appreciated.
Are you talking about back and forth play? For instance, if you could pull on the star wheel and there's a little travel? That's normal on an Ambassadeur. Did you remember to reattach the E clip at the top of the post? If you want to remove some of the play, you can install a shim at the top of the drive shaft under the E clip.
Recently bought set plates from TGC6000C (pt #25897) and anti reverse dog (#5134) to convert an Abu 6500C4 to having an anti reverse dog and an anti reverse bearing. While waiting for the 6500C4 to arrive i got curious and tried the TGC plate on a 5600C4 Winch, 3.8/1 with a Thumb bar and it fit and worked. I has the slot for the thumb bar pin already drilled and machined. It also worked on a 5600SSC3, 5.3/1. These 2 reels are set up for Bumping for Catfish . it is much easier to use a thumb bar reel for this type of fishing in my opinion. Cost for 2 set plates and 2 dogs plus shipping from Pure Fishing was $59.00