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Fishing => Member Fishing Reports and Photos => Topic started by: Cor on November 28, 2021, 06:50:43 AM

Title: CARP PLAY
Post by: Cor on November 28, 2021, 06:50:43 AM
A little personal story.
When I was very young we were not very well off and my mother forced me to eat Carp a few times.   Just thinking of it now or smelling those fish makes me want to be sick.
Just down the road from where I live is a very small pond with clear water where kids sometimes sit and fish and I could see the Carp in it when walking past.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/15040_28_11_21_6_41_12_358142001.jpeg)

So one day I was reading an article on how clever Carp were and what Carp anglers all did to outwit those wiley fish and decided to sneak down to see if I could catch one.   I love sight fishing and here I sat on a terrible overcast stormy rainy day at a kiddies pond feeding some carp with bread.   It was actually peaceful and tempting the fish to eat my pieces of bread was a very interesting experiment to me.   As I could see them, they could see me in that clear water and my arm movement would scatter when.    I would throw a piece of bread where I knew they were and soon one would come to look and swim away and only after many "looks" and slowly coming closer would one eventually eat it.    I could even tempt them closer by slowly tossing the bread in to shallower water and keeping still or hiding behind a shrub or even lying down on the ground.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/15040_28_11_21_6_42_10_358171912.jpeg)
Just as well there were no kids or cops around to see what this old guy was up to.

So the next part of the experiment took place a few days later with a old toy rod, a very cheap reel that I used to catch small squid on, some bread bait balls and tinned maize tiny sinkers and hooks.   I remember I had great fun watching those fish at my bait.   That was the fun bit, they quite quickly become aware of the bait, look at it and dart away.    Then come back slowly after a minute and have another look.    Eventually one would pick it up, but not a chance that you would hook it.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/15040_28_11_21_6_41_49_35815691.jpeg)
(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/15040_28_11_21_6_42_02_35816740.jpeg)
I probably caught two the first time I tried that.    You only catch them when they pick up the bait with meaning and then they dart of with great speed and strength and are in the reeds on the opposite side of the pond in less then a second.   The average size was about 3 or 4 lb and I must have caught 15 during a one month period, never to do it again.
Then one day I saw a Bass in that dam as well, now that became another part of a story, but will leave it for another day. :o
(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/15040_28_11_21_6_42_18_358182411.jpeg)

This morning I came across some photos and thought of this event and how some simple things in life can cause much pleasure.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/15040_28_11_21_6_43_32_358192495.jpeg)

Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Crow on November 28, 2021, 01:03:41 PM
They do have lots of "go power"! And can be pretty finicky about what they hit....I guess you would call that "cunning". Our area of the midwest is 'loaded' with carp, and , growing up, was what almost everyone "fished for"...lots of fun, and, in most homes, a welcome addition to the table, as well. We ate it "fried" (the bigger ones, so all those bones weren't quite as big a problem!), smoked , Baked (again, the big ones...bones were easier to pick out of the meat), and my favorite...."canned". Gramma would put them up in jars, with a chunk of red pepper...not to change the taste, but to help "color" the meat...and we all thought it was as good as the canned salmon that we DIDN'T get...mostly because we could get the carp "for nothing" :).
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Keta on November 28, 2021, 03:53:41 PM
When I lived in Iowa we called them cedar salmon.  Hard fighters but I would never eat fish from the Cedar River downstream from Waterloo or Cedar Rapids.
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Midway Tommy on November 28, 2021, 04:19:43 PM
There's a restaurant in Omaha called Joe Tess Place that's famous for it's carp. https://joetessplace.com/  Check out their reviews. People drive a couple hundred miles just to eat their fish sandwiches, a scored tail or rib section of carp on a single slice of rye bread. I order the Double Rib Sandwich. They do know how to cook carp, it's delicious!  :-* I once saw Bob Kerry, Debra Winger and Tom Brokaw eating there together.
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: foakes on November 28, 2021, 04:54:22 PM
Thanks for sharing your story and photos, Cor —

Good stuff!

Best, Fred
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Riy2018 on November 28, 2021, 10:26:00 PM
in Easter Europe, Russia, Central Asia carp is very famous.
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Benni3 on November 28, 2021, 11:51:28 PM
Nice size carp,,,,, :D they put up a big fight,,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Swami805 on November 29, 2021, 01:18:55 AM
Nice report and great pictures!
Here they sight fish them with a bow and arrow, looks fun
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Cor on November 29, 2021, 05:57:30 AM
Look at the picture second from the top, that Carp has twisted its eye downward to see what is holding or hurting it in the corner of its mouth.

To me its got a sad but intelligent look on its face accepting whatever fate is to come.

Perhaps its still swimming round and round in the little pond ..... this sounds like a story I would read the Grandkids ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: steelfish on December 01, 2021, 02:19:09 AM
nice story amigo, every fish count and every fish is fun to catch
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Riy2018 on December 02, 2021, 10:27:06 PM
popular fishing places in Uzbekistan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSQUlG33n8

https://youtu.be/khjexM7Lblw
fishing tours


https://youtu.be/fCVUbuEnoMU
fish market

https://youtu.be/70DWl2RWGrg
WILDERNESS COOKING huge grass carp

this places still have natural water reserves with wild fish not farm raised
next my vacation places
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Bill B on April 25, 2022, 02:05:13 AM
Old thread but I will comment.  It's fun to target a particular species and succeed.  Lake Elsinore in SoCal has an abundance of carp.  The smelly green type.  It's fun to go and catch 'em.  One day a friend and I went and probably caught 18.  Estimated combined weight of 40 lbs.  I keep a couple to see if they were edible, even the dogs wouldn't eat them. One year the lake hired professional gill netters to lessen the population, I think they stopped after 3 million pounds and the carp fishery is better than ever.
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Wompus Cat on April 25, 2022, 12:34:34 PM
Great CARP RECIPE (https://oldreelcollectors.com/index.php/topic,54.msg87.html#msg87)
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Gobi King on April 25, 2022, 01:05:16 PM
I was out on the channel in Muskegon next to the Sub, grandma and I were going after some cow bluegills and right around sunset a truck/camper pulled in with IL lic plates, father and son team came from Chicago to CARP fish, they had all the pro gear, electric bite detector rod holders etc.

The son chummed with corn, I never knew carp fishing had a good following. The son reported a bunch of guys show up to carp fish that spot.

My first fish of 2022 was a carp, caught it on a hopkins jig.
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Mjg378 on April 25, 2022, 02:59:27 PM
Growing up in Missouri, I would target carp with a homemade bait of crushed Wheaties cereal (had to be wheaties)  with vanilla or anise added.  as I got a little older, I sometimes would add bit of whiskey.
Kept one ONE TIME. My buddy and I thought let's try it.   His mother was not to happy with us after we stank up her kitchen.  Ended up throwing it out. Still remember some of those battles with my zebco 202
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Gobi King on April 25, 2022, 03:16:53 PM

I have tried carp many times in Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. They taste fine. Not sure why we are averse to carp in Michigan, but most of the fish balls made for kosher meals are made with farmed carp in KY I believe. Fish, tastes like fish I tell you, I guess we gots do a blind tasting challenge  :-X
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Riy2018 on April 25, 2022, 07:13:43 PM
best for gefilte fish
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: Mjg378 on April 25, 2022, 07:46:21 PM
I've heard if carp are from clean water they taste fine. 
the fish I caught back then came from muddy /dirty waters.  Fortunately for me they seemed to thrive in those lakes I had access to.
Mike
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: happyhooker on April 26, 2022, 01:49:31 AM
If you fish exclusively freshwater, as I do, common carp are among the biggest fish you will run across.  Yeah, you can go for muskie or sturgeon, but that is specialized angling in very specific waters.  Carp, big catfish and buffalo will be the biggest fish that are more widespread.  Carp and buffalo are very powerful fish, excellent fighters and fun to catch.  I'm mostly catch-and-release, so the eating part is outside my experience; however, I know of commercial fisherman/netters who make a lot of $$ selling carp and buffalo on the East Coast.  In Europe, and especially Britain, carp are near the top in targets for angling.  Carp take the rap as invasive species, but buffalo are native.  I understand bow fishing for carp, but I doubt if many, if any, anglers can tell the difference between a carp and a buffalo when they are shooting, and I hate to see buffalo shot just for the fun of it.  Bait fishing on or near the bottom works for carp, buffalo and cats, and the good 'ole angleworm will catch all of 'em.  Doughballs too; I keep mine simple with bran flakes, a little flour and a drop of anise. And, yes, you can catch all of them on jigs too, especially maribous or something you run near the bottom that looks like a big insect or crawfish.

I don't often have a fish break off the line, but a couple summers ago, I had a buffalo take off down river and I could not even slow it down before the line broke. Buffs and carp are also masters at wrapping your line around branches and snags.

Frank
Title: Re: CARP PLAY
Post by: steelfish on May 30, 2022, 08:04:30 PM
I've never heard about Buffalo fish before.

they seem like a nice trophy fish in FW