NOPE I'm not going ice fishing. I do want to use an ice fishing rod though. Just for kicks when I'm out fishing with the fellas and they are bragging about who is the better fisherman I'd like to whip out one of those teeny tiny ice fishing rods and catch a big fish it while they watch. Nothing says "You cannot fish as good as me" like catching the same fish as someone else with severely undersized gear....especially if I break it out after they miss one. What I need to know to accomplish this "just for fun" task is is there anything special about ice fishing rods? They all seem unbreakable...not that I've seen more than two different kinds...and they seem to put the fish against your bicepts and your reel. There seems to be no actual help from the rod. Please fill me in on anything I'm missing.
Did a lot of ice fishing when I 1st moved to Minnesota (from Arizona!), but not so much lately.
Rods are short because you need to be near the hole to get the fish out. Plus, if you fish inside an icehouse, most of 'em are too small to have any kind of long rod inside.
Not sure what you mean about putting the fish against your biceps. The short rod means you do kinda muscle the fish out of the water, rather than playing them with the rod, but fish generally don't fight as strongly in the cold water either.
Frank
They're like any rod. They come in different weights from small crappie or perch rods to stouter ones for pike.
You had me worried. I hadn't thought you needed that much of an excuse to sit in a shack and drink beer.
Thanks guys for that input.
Happyhooker,
Yeah when I said bicepts against the fish I meant you don't have a rod to increase leaverage or line retrieval so you are pretty much muscling it up. That was based on what I saw in videos having no actual experience with this myself. Thanks.
Lunker Larry,
So there are different weight rods? Do they all bend nearly 180°? Is there a source for an "Ugly Stik" equivalent version? This is just for fun so I'm not really looking to get serious or spend as much as I do for my often used gear. Thanks.
Hey, Clay --
If this would work for your purpose -- let me know and I will send it out to you at N/C.
It is a 33" Swede Stick in SS. Not sure if the reel you have in mind will work -- this would take a baitcaster type or a spincast reel.
Best,
Fred
I like Frabil, and Fenwick ice fishing rods, but they are graphite and will break if fished outta specs. You may want a heavy glass rod for what you have in mind. I have caught a lot of Pelagics on ice fishing rods. Used to bring them on commercial boats cause they're easy to pack.
John
Just challenge your buddies to a snoopy rod contest to see who can land the largest fish on one. A barbie rod counts too!
If you have an old spinning rod, what many do is cut it at the handle and cut a piece about 2 feet long from the tip. Shoot a bunch of hot glue into the handle and jam the end piece in. Voila! No cost and you can use your old reels.
Long time no-hear NW. Fred's offer, witha spincast reel and the heaviest line that'll work would probably have the desired effect. I'd recommend an old "Abumatic", they were pretty tough for their size. Then again, the "Barbie rod" would really get their goat!
Gfish
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I'd take Fred up on that offer on the rod. It has some backbone. Don't forget, some huge pike, muskie and sturgeon among others get pulled up through that hole and the rods are pencil thin and the drag on the reels is the size of a dime.
I am not much of an ice fisherman as my girls get bored and we end up flying our kites instead.
Few years back I was looking into ice rod, the best value I found was zebco dock demon rods. There are videos on youtube of guys pulling big red fish with those,
I loaded up on half a dozen of them, they even came with a small spinning/spincast reel, I donated the reels to the youth fishing events.
These are pretty well made rod for the price. You can get the combo for $9 if you wait for sales.
You guy are dead on with what y'all are coming up with BUT I've already broke out the Spider-Man rod and caught a Bullred. Now my buddy keeps a Snoopy reel on his boat to counter that move. So I then took my light weight inshore rod with a 2500 reel and put tandom Buck tail lures on it and brought up two Red Snappers from 60 ft down. He hadn't topped that one yet but I know he'll have his answer for that soon. That's why I NEED to have the absolute smallest combo possible. I will surely get their goat with this stunt. Lol. #Fishingisfun
Fred,
I appreciate that offer. I'll have to see if I can source a suitable reel to mount on that reel. I know I can source a spinner to suit my needs but I'll look for an affordable baitcaster that can get this job done. Thanks I'll let you know.
Don't forget about the Ron Popeil Pocket Fisherman. One of our clubs tournaments each year has a Calcutta for for only Ronco caught fish.
Quote from: foakes on December 21, 2017, 08:01:07 PM
Hey, Clay --
If this would work for your purpose -- let me know and I will send it out to you at N/C.
It is a 33" Swede Stick in SS. Not sure if the reel you have in mind will work -- this would take a baitcaster type or a spincast reel.
Best,
Fred
Fred, that's such a cool rod. I love how the guides are made from the blank.
My friends bought some ice fishing rod combos when they took their kids trout fishing. They wanted something but didn't want to spend a lot of money. I think the combos were like $10-$15 each. I changed the drag out and line and off they went. The kids caught 6 trout each and said it was so much fun because the ice fishing rods were so flexible. Fighting a small fish felt like a big fish and a big fish felt like a huge fish. I can only imagine how it feels to pull up a sturgeon, pike or monster trout on those little things in the ice.
Quote from: Nasty Wendy on December 22, 2017, 09:33:03 AM
Fred,
I appreciate that offer. I'll have to see if I can source a suitable reel to mount on that reel. I know I can source a spinner to suit my needs but I'll look for an affordable baitcaster that can get this job done. Thanks I'll let you know.
Clay, Just let me know if you want a baitcaster, what kind -- or a push button spincaster, and what kind...and I will send one along with the rod.
I have more than a few, and you don't need any further expenses after this last year your family has had.
Best,
Fred
for truly undersized, yet strong & surprising line capacity, consider the tiny old Japanese reels:
Olympic Midget, Daiwa Coronet, Shimano Demi, etc.
Coronet Mini is the smallest I can think of, but may not hold enough line:
Quote from: philaroman on December 22, 2017, 06:44:57 PM
for truly undersized, yet strong & surprising line capacity, consider the tiny old Japanese reels:
Olympic Midget, Daiwa Coronet, Shimano Demi, etc.
Coronet Mini is the smallest I can think of, but may not hold enough line:
That is the perfect reel for microfishing...
http://microfishing.com
nah -- no reel, at all, for micro...
Japanese Tenkara or lightest Euro Whip pole, if you have the bucks
not-quite-dry bamboo stalk -- if you're poor
actually, my least/lowest tech. set-up was 2' 7X tippet looped on my pinkie & tiny Mustad spade-eye baited w/ my booger
got me a 1.5" bluegill, in no time ::)
Phil, do any of those reels have a clutch? Thanks.
-steve
Quote from: foakes on December 22, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
Quote from: Nasty Wendy on December 22, 2017, 09:33:03 AM
Fred,
I appreciate that offer. I'll have to see if I can source a suitable reel to mount on that reel. I know I can source a spinner to suit my needs but I'll look for an affordable baitcaster that can get this job done. Thanks I'll let you know.
Clay, Just let me know if you want a baitcaster, what kind -- or a push button spincaster, and what kind...and I will send one along with the rod.
I have more than a few, and you don't need any further expenses after this last year your family has had.
Best,
Fred
Wow Fred,
You really make it hard for a fellow to say no. I appreciate this. Yeah my family has had a hard year but my daughter has FULLY healed and is back to being a normal teenager. She is no doubt a walking miracle and I am an overweight father. I must have put on 20lbs from eating fast food and sleeping in a hospital bed next to her all summer (from Easter Sunday to two weeks into the start of the school year!). I'll have to shoot video and take pics of the aftermath of their embarrassment ;D. As far as a reel, this is going to be a saltwater game we're playing so anything that can hold a 150-200 yards of 30lb braid would be perfect. I'm not really big into bait casters so I don't know if that is a lot or not. I have no idea what the line capacity is on a standard bait caster. The only casting I do offshore is with spinning tackle. I'm assuming the amount of drag I'd be able to put to use would be limited by the rod. I'd run 10 lbs max with 30lb braid if the rod could hold up to that. This would make for a pretty epic fight with a nice Red Snapper. That would be even more fun because the longer the fight the more people will want to see what is going on. That'll make for a larger audience for my fishing bud's embarrassment. LOL. This guy is the type that'll catch a fish and if its nice he'll put it back in the water and wait until another boat pulls up so he then lift the fish out the water for the other boat to see and then say "This one is twice as big as yours huh?". Its the kind of thing that makes you want to throw a 3oz bank sinker at him. Gotta love good fishing buddies.
Good, Clay --
PM me your full mailing information -- and I will get something put together and shipped out to you just after Christmas.
Don't know where you live -- but am always concerned this time of year with folks maybe not at home when the "Porch Pirates" cruise by.
Will advise with a tracking number and ETA.
Best,
Fred
Quote from: foakes on December 22, 2017, 10:03:10 PM
Good, Clay --
PM me your full mailing information -- and I will get something put together and shipped out to you just after Christmas.
Don't know where you live -- but am always concerned this time of year with folks maybe not at home when the "Porch Pirates" cruise by.
Will advise with a tracking number and ETA.
Best,
Fred
Thanks again Fred. Amazed at you. PM coming.
Quote from: philaroman on December 22, 2017, 08:21:18 PM
nah -- no reel, at all, for micro...
Japanese Tenkara or lightest Euro Whip pole, if you have the bucks
not-quite-dry bamboo stalk -- if you're poor
actually, my least/lowest tech. set-up was 2' 7X tippet looped on my pinkie & tiny Mustad spade-eye baited w/ my booger
got me a 1.5" bluegill, in no time ::)
I hollered out loud. ;D
Well,
Fred's being Fred again.....true spirit of the Ohana..... way to go
And, we of course want a pic when you beat him at his own game with Fred's rod......can't wait.....
I guess next you'll have to handline them in to beat him ;D
Brett
I have a gift for you Fred. I picked up a few items for my fishing buddies and well I think you deserve one of them. PM me your address please.