Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Maxed Out on April 05, 2018, 07:11:21 PM

Title: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Maxed Out on April 05, 2018, 07:11:21 PM
 Just when I think I've seen everything, something comes along to prove that wrong......like this 9/0 senator  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on April 05, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
A lever drag (sort of) 9/0!
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Robert Janssen on April 05, 2018, 07:25:51 PM
Handle arm is threaded. Bar on outside is a fixed stop allowing one rotation of handle, minus a few degrees. Drag self-adjusts depending on how hard you crank, and can be lessened by back-cranking. Similar to ABU's Ambassadeur Synchro models.

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Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: steelfish on April 05, 2018, 07:43:37 PM
now thats pretty unique, cool find Ted
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: thorhammer on April 05, 2018, 07:45:07 PM
Doc, when Ted showed me this, I said that chances are you made it lol.
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Maxed Out on April 05, 2018, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on April 05, 2018, 07:45:07 PM
Doc, when Ted showed me this, I said that chances are you made it lol.

  Doc was the only guy that I figured could do something like this. It self adjusts just as he described. The blade has a star with "s" in middle stamped on underside. It's the only makers mark I can see
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Robert Janssen on April 05, 2018, 09:16:34 PM
Haha, no-- not me. Not guilty.

Somebody made these commercially for a while. Don't remember who. Sumo?

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Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Maxed Out on April 05, 2018, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: Robert Janssen on April 05, 2018, 09:16:34 PM
Haha, no-- not me. Not guilty.

Somebody made these commercially for a while. Don't remember who. Sumo?

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The reel came to me from Japan.....possibly where the kit was installed ?¿?¿?
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Bill B on April 06, 2018, 02:03:19 AM
Too cool, wondering how it works in real life though...Bill
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: broadway on April 06, 2018, 02:15:28 AM
Robert, did the kit include the handle?  That is one beast of a handle.
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Maxed Out on April 06, 2018, 04:28:46 AM
 Top of gear sleeve is hex shaped to fit the lever. The handle is threaded onto the gear sleeve and is also the "pusher" for the drag stack. The lever itself never moves position, its optical illusion. The handle screws down and lever seems to move, but it just handle screwing down onto gear sleeve to compress the drag stack...reeling backwards sounds strange, but it just takes a slight back motion to loosen drag if needed, then back to reeling

   Rest of internals are what you'd expect in a modern 9/0
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: thorhammer on April 06, 2018, 11:30:40 AM
Great find. The handle is art.
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Maxed Out on April 06, 2018, 10:51:00 PM

I never noticed the sticker under the seat till now. Very certain this is the maker of this kit.

Hopefully someone can translate or add some info

Thanks, Ted
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: oc1 on April 08, 2018, 10:10:31 AM
Look at the second page of this advert from 1957.  An OC reel with no star.  Same sort of thing??
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-ADVERT-Pico-Swimming-Perch-Fishing-Lure-Padre-Island-Ocean-City-Reels-Reel/151811833771?hash=item2358b0bfab:g:jfsAAOSwLqFV8i-w (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-ADVERT-Pico-Swimming-Perch-Fishing-Lure-Padre-Island-Ocean-City-Reels-Reel/151811833771?hash=item2358b0bfab:g:jfsAAOSwLqFV8i-w)
-steve
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: gstours on April 08, 2018, 03:54:12 PM
  I would like to see how this would work in an actual fishing situation as well!  Hope so some time.   Kinda cool idea.  automatic compensation,  like the Smartshift reel,  and your new cars anti loc brakes.   Thanks for sharing. :D
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: sdlehr on April 08, 2018, 07:16:47 PM
Wow, very cool! Ted, I can almost translate that label, just having trouble with what is between P and KK

Steve, that looks like the same mechanism in that OC! How the heck did you find that in so timely a manner?
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: oc1 on April 08, 2018, 07:58:56 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on April 08, 2018, 07:16:47 PM
How the heck did you find that in so timely a manner?
Blind luck.  I was looking for the PICO Pearch on the first page.
-steve
Title: Re: What am I Missing ??
Post by: Bill B on April 09, 2018, 12:28:09 AM
Does anyone know what language this is? Friends have exchange students from Japan and China and one may read Korean....bill