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Fishing => Fishing Tips and Techniques => Topic started by: reelynew on January 30, 2023, 04:10:28 AM

Title: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: reelynew on January 30, 2023, 04:10:28 AM
Hi Guys,

Does anyone in this group crab snare from the beach in the Bay Area?  I'm looking for some advice on what gear you are using, where did you get your snares, beaches you like, bait and any other tips you might have. 

Would appreciate any advice or PM.

Thanks

Matt
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Swami805 on January 30, 2023, 04:40:18 AM
Always wanted to try that, watching
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Shellbelly on January 30, 2023, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: reelynew on January 30, 2023, 04:10:28 AMcrab snare
I'd like to know about this as well.  In this area, we can use traps or baited hand-line.  The target is blue crab.  Crabbing is big fun for kids.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Alan Matsuno on January 30, 2023, 05:49:42 PM
Pacifica Pier.  Rusty Bait and Tackle.  Use chicken legs, otherwise you are feeding seals.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Shellbelly on January 30, 2023, 09:32:37 PM
Search "crab net".  You'll find all kinds.  I suggest metal crab tongs as well.  As for cleaning them, gloves and youtube video. 

I clean mine at the water, then finish at home.  What goes in the water attracts bait and so on.  Sometimes I would get a flounder or two out of the deal.

Also, check your state and local regulations.  We have a minimum size limit here for blue crab.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Hardy Boy on January 30, 2023, 09:34:56 PM
They are illegal here in BC. Some stores were selling them and then folks started getting tickets. You can't say I bought it in the store so it must be legal. They do work though.


Cheers:

Todd
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Shellbelly on January 31, 2023, 12:22:47 AM
Quote from: Hardy Boy on January 30, 2023, 09:34:56 PMThey are illegal here in BC.
Any idea why?  I mean, not as many folks take crabs "manually" anymore.  Wouldn't seem to be an impact. 

I could throw out a trap and get a couple dozen AND fish at the same time.  Grab a crab from the trap and put it on a hook, too.  It's just too easy.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Swami805 on January 31, 2023, 12:50:38 AM
What do the snares look like?  We can't use them south of point conception
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Shellbelly on January 31, 2023, 01:54:53 AM
Quote from: Swami805 on January 31, 2023, 12:50:38 AMWhat do the snares look like?
I'm not sure that "snares" is the more common name.  Look up "crab net".  There are many types under that name. 

Basically, it's a hoop net that lays flat on the bottom with bait tied and laying in the middle.  The crab gets on the net and you pull it up.  That type works best from piers or decks where it's a vertical drop.

A trap is a wire or net enclosure, round or square, with bait inside.  Crab goes in and can't get out.  AKA crab pot.  Much more efficient and productive....just not as much fun.

As kids, we used kite string.  Tied an old spark plug to the deep end and hitched a chicken neck near the weight.  Hitched the land end to a stick in the sand.  Give it a little slack and wait until it goes tight.
Pull ever so slowly and get the crab net, the kind with a long handle, scoop 'em up and learn how to not get pinched. 

Then take a sip of your bottled coke with salted peanuts poured in it.  Life is good. 
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: reelynew on January 31, 2023, 03:47:39 AM
Quote from: Shellbelly on January 30, 2023, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: reelynew on January 30, 2023, 04:10:28 AMcrab snare
I'd like to know about this as well.  In this area, we can use traps or baited hand-line.  The target is blue crab.  Crabbing is big fun for kids.

Here's a photo of one.  The baited wired box is surrounded with snares to grab their claws. 
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: reelynew on January 31, 2023, 03:50:45 AM
Quote from: Alan Matsuno on January 30, 2023, 05:49:42 PMPacifica Pier.  Rusty Bait and Tackle.  Use chicken legs, otherwise you are feeding seals.

Thanks Alan - I will check out Rusty's  for a snare.  I like the idea of fishing from a beach as well.  My original rod for crabbing is way too stiff and it's hard to load up the tip to cast.  If you crab snare, what rod are you using?
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Swami805 on January 31, 2023, 04:26:29 AM
Thanks for the picture, I get it now
We use hoop nets for lobster here, but can't use snares
I've heard of people using nylon stockings stuffed with bait and some weight for lobster, they spines get stuck on it. I don't think it's legal though.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: oc1 on January 31, 2023, 05:37:33 AM
I made a snare for Samoan crabs based on some random picture off the internet.  It was interesting casting that thing.  Used my longest and beefiest surf outfit. Never caught a thing but I didn't stick with it for long.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Hardy Boy on January 31, 2023, 03:37:54 PM
We can use hoop nets but not snares as pictured above. They can damage non legal crabs ie breaking off legs etc. Hoop nets are great for catching crab fast but you have to pull them often so most here use traps.

Todd
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: alantani on January 31, 2023, 06:01:34 PM
my brother had me make the "snare" portion out of 100# mono.  i have all the crimps so it was easy. 
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Alan Matsuno on January 31, 2023, 08:04:37 PM
Quote from: reelynew on January 31, 2023, 03:50:45 AM
Quote from: Alan Matsuno on January 30, 2023, 05:49:42 PMPacifica Pier.  Rusty Bait and Tackle.  Use chicken legs, otherwise you are feeding seals.

Thanks Alan - I will check out Rusty's  for a snare.  I like the idea of fishing from a beach as well.  My original rod for crabbing is way too stiff and it's hard to load up the tip to cast.  If you crab snare, what rod are you using?

I use a Harrell. I recommend shopping your local tackle shops. Shakespeare sells surf rods and reel combos.

Do you have a budget?
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Shellbelly on January 31, 2023, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: reelynew on January 31, 2023, 03:47:39 AMHere's a photo of one.
I've never seen that before! 
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Bryan Young on February 01, 2023, 07:38:39 AM
I made them.  There are several YouTube videos on this.  Snares you buy from the store uses 400# test size loops that easily spring open.  I used 100# mono so when the loops lasso the crab's legs, it stays tight.  It's good if you let up or a wave comes and looses your lines, but it's not as easy to release the unhappy crab when you get it on shore/up the pier.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Donnyboat on February 01, 2023, 12:57:45 PM
Gee 400 lbs, they must be very heavy crabs, cheers Don.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: oc1 on February 02, 2023, 05:56:23 AM
Quote from: Donnyboat on February 01, 2023, 12:57:45 PMGee 400 lbs, they must be very heavy crabs, cheers Don.

It has to be springy enough to open automatically when it hits the bottom.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: reelynew on February 03, 2023, 12:48:09 AM
Quote from: Alan Matsuno on January 31, 2023, 08:04:37 PM
Quote from: reelynew on January 31, 2023, 03:50:45 AM
Quote from: Alan Matsuno on January 30, 2023, 05:49:42 PMPacifica Pier.  Rusty Bait and Tackle.  Use chicken legs, otherwise you are feeding seals.

Thanks Alan - I will check out Rusty's  for a snare.  I like the idea of fishing from a beach as well.  My original rod for crabbing is way too stiff and it's hard to load up the tip to cast.  If you crab snare, what rod are you using?

I use a Harrell. I recommend shopping your local tackle shops. Shakespeare sells surf rods and reel combos.

Do you have a budget?

Just seeing this now.  I have the reel already, so I'm just looking for a rod.  For your Harrell.  Can you tell me what length, power, lure rating and action it is just so I can get an idea?
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Bryan Young on February 04, 2023, 01:46:28 AM
Quote from: oc1 on February 02, 2023, 05:56:23 AM
Quote from: Donnyboat on February 01, 2023, 12:57:45 PMGee 400 lbs, they must be very heavy crabs, cheers Don.

It has to be springy enough to open automatically when it hits the bottom.
I find that if they are springy enough to stay open when casting, that is sufficient.  they don't tend to close without tension.  That is why I use 100# instead of 400# or weed hacker cord.
Title: Re: looking for some advice on Bay Area crab snaring
Post by: Shellbelly on February 05, 2023, 07:10:18 PM
I was talking about these to a friend and he gave me this crab snare.  Amazing how I made it over 60 years without knowing about these.

The "no crabbing" sign was washed up on the beach years ago after one of the storms so I brought it to a new home.