I have noticed within the past month or two the pricing on eBay and amazon of these fine reels has spiked noticeably, averaging $10-15 on good to fair condition reels, $20-30 on fine condition and hard to acquire models, the Microlite 265s are averaging $75+, 110 and 110n $45-55, even the common 550 and 270 which were going for next to nothing are $15-$25, the trick is to find a reel that some one has no clue as to is worth, as I did as a lawn sale, picked up SW68 very very cheap, I'm embarrassed to tell you the price, do I feel terrible, nope, I'm Happy, Happy, Happy like the gent on Duck Dynasty says ....
Paul
Still waiting to stumble on a good deal on a 110 or 110N myself. I have a Quick 1000 which is pretty nice but I'm not real fond of the bail arm setup. It bends if you look at it the wrong way. Since it is a skirted spool reel, I wish it had a bail that could easily be closed manually too.
From my vantage point, many of the quality older spinning reels have been making a comeback to the pre-2008 prices. I think it may be a combination of increased disposable income, increased collector interest and the realization by many that you can buy a higher quality vintage spinner for nickles on the dollar compared most of their newer Asian counterparts. Plus, maintenance is simpler and they just plain last longer. It sure was a nice run for my pocket book, though. I was able to accumulate a lot of quality spinning reels for use and to add to my collection for minimal investment.
One of the fascinations with the newer spinning reels that I've really never understood is the free-spin of the rotor/crank. It has no significance in castability, distance or accuracy since the bail is open and there is no resistance other than rod line guides. One can only crank the handle so fast on return with a bait or lure on the other end, yet I see people all the time in stores flip the crank to see how long the rotor will free spin. To me, at least, it's a non issue as long as the reel spins effortlessly.
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on April 28, 2017, 05:45:20 PM
Still waiting to stumble on a good deal on a 110 or 110N myself. I have a Quick 1000 which is pretty nice but I'm not real fond of the bail arm setup. It bends if you look at it the wrong way. Since it is a skirted spool reel, I wish it had a bail that could easily be closed manually too.
If you want to trade your 1000 for a fully restored Microlite 110, 110N, or a 265 Microlite -- just let me know, and I will send one your way -- and will pay for shipping both ways.
I like the 1000, and would like an extra for myself for use in the backcountry when backpacking.
Best,
Fred
Well I guess today's your lucky day! You stumbled on to a pretty darn good deal with Fred's offering, I can attest to the quality of his restorations and rebuilds I've got three of em ... One is a gem 265 Microlite and recently received a sweet working 221 ( now my favorite ) can't remember the other one, I'm getting old fellas ..
Quote from: foakes on April 28, 2017, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on April 28, 2017, 05:45:20 PM
Still waiting to stumble on a good deal on a 110 or 110N myself. I have a Quick 1000 which is pretty nice but I'm not real fond of the bail arm setup. It bends if you look at it the wrong way. Since it is a skirted spool reel, I wish it had a bail that could easily be closed manually too.
If you want to trade your 1000 for a fully restored Microlite 110, 110N, or a 265 Microlite -- just let me know, and I will send one your way -- and will pay for shipping both ways.
I like the 1000, and would like an extra for myself for use in the backcountry when backpacking.
Best,
Fred
I would love to but mine has no paint, the bail doesn't kick over as it should and the arm is out of whack pretty bad. It is missing the cover for the main drive shaft as well. It will also need some drag washers or something. It has a homemade looking one in the stack and I don't think it is even complete. I wouldn't be dishonest about dealing with anyone, it needs some work and some parts. Take a look at the pics. If you have the parts for it and want to work out a deal than that is great for me but you would have some work to do with this one! I put it away after cleaning it and trying it a couple of times. Whoever had it before me bent on the arm with metal pliers or dropped it on concrete I think, it has some scratches.
That would work fine for me -- if interested, just let me know which reel you want in trade...
Thanks,
Fred
What are your personal thoughts on the 3 models?
I am looking for a user reel. What are the differences and which do you think would be best for me. I mostly fish for sunfish species (green sunfish, bluegill, rock bass, small and largemouth) and usually use 4lb mono with ultralight crank baits, rooster tails, and small soft plastics.
I would really like to hear your thoughts on the 3 if it isn't too much trouble. Thanks!
My thoughts are that the 110 is the strongest, and has the best support and A/R system.
The 265 Microlite is also a strong tiny reel. It is a more attractive and a little smaller that the 110. Plus comes with a metal spool instead of Delrin or plastic.
The 110N is a smooth reel, a few more plastic parts like all of the "N" series -- and an A/R system that is a little more problematic that the 265 or 110. And a little larger.
Most folks do not know that the frame, side plate and gears on a 110 are the same as the 220/221. The difference is the rotor and spool size.
All of the microlites have a high gear ratio of 5:1 -- I think the 110N is slightly lower, maybe 4.7 or 4.2 -- really no appreciable difference.
My personal choices would be the 110 or 265. And I would lean towards the 265 for the nostalgia and metal spool.
All good reels, however. When you get into these high quality old spinners with worm drives, oversize bearings, steel gears and brass components, the differences likely boil down to personal preference.
They are all fine and professional grade lifetime reels that are a pleasure to fish, IMO.
Best,
Fred
That is a tough call between the two I like metal spool of the Microlite and the fact you may be able to find parts easier on the 110 because of the other models that have some parts that can be interchanged! I think I would go with the Microlite. It is a nice looking little reel. I will ship this one to you, I can't let you pay shipping both ways with mine needing work. I really appreciate the offer to trade. I hope it works out great for you. My email address is connellkevin76@gmail.com, if you email me you address I will get this one out to you on Monday and I can send you a tracking #.
Will do, Kevin --
You likely won't have to worry about parts on the 265 or 110 -- for clients & members, I possibly have the largest selection in the world of NOS DAM Quick parts.
Who knows?
Around 60,000 NOS parts.
Best,
Fred
I need to come for a visit just LOL! I would be like a kid in a candy store!
110 = best of the Quick ultralights.
Best build
right size
bulletproof
easily switched right or left hand
pretty much perfect.
Why do I think this?
1= own all of them
2= fished them all for nearly 50 years & still do
Fact is, my microlight and 110n do far more sitting than my 110.
There is a reason for this.
That said.........still all are good reels.
IMHO -- the 110N is a smoother reel, but lacks the left/right hand switch option plus the rotor/spool size is a tad too big for a true ultralight. Hence why I've come to use my 110N reels with 6lb. or 8lb mono on a longer light rod for jigging crappie, worm fishing sauger and such.
My 110 is always 2lb-4lb test on 4 1/2 -5ft ultra light for smallmouth, trout and such.
That's my take.
Regardless --- ENJOY!
Quote from: foakes on April 28, 2017, 11:39:39 PM
Will do, Kevin --
You likely won't have to worry about parts on the 265 or 110 -- for clients & members, I possibly have the largest selection in the world of NOS DAM Quick parts.
Who knows?
Around 60,000 NOS parts.
Best,
Fred
Fred what we would do without you. With that said Fred is a great guy to deal with I bought a 110 off him great reel you won't be disappointed with one of his reels essentially a new reel. With that said I have the DAM bug bad since joining this site after acquiring an old finessa I have since gotten Fred's 110, another 110 I went through, 110N, microlite, super, super 2 speed, 220N, 221 I may have a slight problem now. Fred has helped me out more than once on parts for my reels so I could get them back in working order. Unfortunately my microlite I found had a plastic 110 spool on it. The best in my opinion would be a 110 that you put a metal microlite spool on. I have spooled my 110N with 6lb mono, the 110 with 6lb mono, and I'm trying some nano fil on the microlite in 6lb test that is something like 2-4lb diameter.
Back to the prices..... I've noticed that when reels are talked about here on AT the price goes up at the auction. Buy the reel you want, then buy a couple of parts reels before you rave about it here.
-steve
Interestingly, I have four of the different models, 265 Micro-Lite, 110, 110N & 1001.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/17004_03_02_21_4_43_35_343101992.jpeg)
I like the feel of the 1001 and think it's the closest in comparison to the 265 feel wise, but given the choice to fish with, I would choose, hands down, the 265 Micri-Lite. I think it's better made than the 1001 and I prefer it's feel, size and balance over the 110 & 110N. Everyone has a different preference and opinion I guess.
I wasn't impressed with the rotor/bail setup on the 1000 I sent to Fred. The 1000 didn't have manual close capiability either. Did the 1001? Can't wait to try out the Microlite!
Quote from: oc1 on May 17, 2017, 10:03:43 PM
Back to the prices..... I've noticed that when reels are talked about here on AT the price goes up at the auction. Buy the reel you want, then buy a couple of parts reels before you rave about it here.
-steve
LOL....... good thinking. :)
QuoteBack to the prices..... I've noticed that when reels are talked about here on AT the price goes up at the auction. Buy the reel you want, then buy a couple of parts reels before you rave about it here.
-steve
??? Ha! If that's the case, same can be said about selling. If you want to sell a couple of reels, rave about them here on AT first and then list them for sale on da'Bay. ;D
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 18, 2017, 02:44:41 AM
The 1000 didn't have manual close capiability either. Did the 1001? Can't wait to try out the Microlite!
No, it has a standard bail trip lever with slotted bail arm/plate. It is, though, a light and petite little reel. Feels like a feather in your hand compared to many of the clunker, so called, ultra-lites. ;)
I stay on the chump end of every transaction Tommy :)
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on May 19, 2017, 09:45:23 AM
I stay on the chump end of every transaction Tommy :)
-steve
"the greater fool theory" is my only hope Steve.
Steve
Fortunately, there are millions of Mitchells out there -- probably 10's of thousands of Quicks -- and there are plenty or bargains to be had. Not so many Cardinals, or Penns -- but still moderately available.
I never am concerned about what I pay for any individual reel -- if I want it.
If I seemingly pay too much for a reel I want and can use -- I just offset and average it in with the others.
Lets say a reel is worth $40 -- I pay $60 because it is available now...
But there are others that are worth $40 -- that can be bought for $30 or $20, or $9.
It all goes back to condition.
And we all want a bargain whenever possible -- that is part of the fun.
In my former profession -- one of my duties was to buy vehicles from the wholesale auto auctions. Might buy 2 or 3 truckloads of 1 year old cars about twice a month at Bay Cities, Golden Gate, or LA -- for our inventory.
Old timer taught me to just buy what I wanted -- and knew would sell -- regardless of the price. Sharp, clean, low mileage one year old factory cars always sell well.
A truck holds 7 cars -- so I would always buy in lots of 7 increments to save on shipping.
If I bought 21 cars at wholesale -- and lets say a lot of guys thought I paid too much for 7 of them, all I would do is average the prices when I got back home the next day -- before putting them on the books. No big deal -- since I made sure that I also got 7 at market value, and got another 7 dirt cheap because either the mileage was a little higher, wrong color, minor recon, other buyers asleep, or out of money for their operation.
However, we would have a good supply of cars -- and the dollars would still be the same -- and the salesman would not cherry pick the cars to sell and leave us with the leftovers.
At the end of the day -- I always look for bargains, we all do -- but I also know that it is just as easy to think we paid a little too much for an item -- only to find that we enjoy the item -- and can sell it at either break-even or a profit anytime we want.
If you don't have it -- you can't enjoy it, or resell it.
And most of us are not in this for the money -- just fun.
Best,
Fred
That is a good perspective Fred
I spent a little over an hour crunching numbers. Took the average prices of ebay sold D.A.M Quicks in the last few months. Used Fred Oakes' method of throwing out the lowest and highest numbers. Didn't include the old original Finessas or Supers or the high speeds . The most expensive of the series is the 110N. The least expensive is the 440.
In order from high to low are:
110N
110
220
265 Microlite
440N
550
220N
550N
330
330N
440
I saw a few minutes ago this 220 brought 200 bucks on ebay today. :o
Looks like a couple guys using a private buying service. Finding one new isn't easy, a couple collectors with deep pockets
Wow!
......and a 110N just sold for $122.50 plus shipping. Didn't even include the box, papers, or spare springs or shims. :o
Glad I got mine......
My past research has found that a lot of those type crazy prices never actually get paid for and close. Sometimes it's a shill pushing the price up, sometimes there's buyer's remorse and the don't pay, etc., etc. I've gone back later and checked feedback on outrageous sales like those but a lot of times there isn't any evidence of the sale, and sometimes the reel gets relisted in a couple of weeks. You never know for sure whether those type sales are legit or not. A lot of times, not.
Quote from: Midway Tommy on July 05, 2018, 05:10:54 AM
My past research has found that a lot of those type crazy prices never actually get paid for and close. Sometimes it's a shill pushing the price up, sometimes there's buyer's remorse and the don't pay, etc., etc. I've gone back later and checked feedback on outrageous sales like those but a lot of times there isn't any evidence of the sale, and sometimes the reel gets relisted in a couple of weeks. You never know for sure whether those type sales are legit or not. A lot of times, not.
And sometimes I think it could possibly be EBUI. Ebaying under the influence. ::)
Lately, particularly the last 6-8 weeks the supply of D-A-M Quicks has almost dried up on Ebay. At least on the auction section. Plenty of overpriced Buy It Now models, however. I have all I'll ever need but still look for bargains or parts reels.
Is this scarcity on account of the holiday season or just low supplies? If I remember correctly, a year ago there were plenty out there.
I haunt the Newell section a fair amount and it's like an ebb and flow, at times there's plenty with some bargains and other times it's dry. Likely the same with Dam Quicks. The season can effect it too.
i'll bet it's partly our fault..... :-\
Let's blame Fred. ::) Dominick
I donno ....
Fleabay is not a great source for bargains .
I think you are more likely to get a good deal from Randy at Vintage Offshore .
Or PM Fred , you might be surprised at what he has for sale .
Work sent me to st Augustine,,,,the bait tackle shop only had over priced junk,,, >:( but the rod and reel on the wall look nice and said how much $100 :) the girl said that's my grandma's ;) I'll call her but no luck and my co worker said why you want that antique,,,,, :D you want to see a alligator that dam quick with the tomato post is the only thing here that can do it ;D
Quote from: Dominick on December 31, 2018, 05:04:16 PM
Let's blame Fred. ::) Dominick
He is responsible for 3 in my stash now ;D
Any of the old vintage QUALITY spinning reels from earlier than about 1980 — will appreciate in value.
Good examples are Penn, ABU & Zebco Cardinals, D.A.M. Quick, Mitchell to a certain extent (although the giant amount of Mitchell reels manufactured will keep the price down for a while longer, IMO), and others as long as they are quality metal, and parts are overbuilt and possibly still available.
As more folks learn about the quality, simplicity, and proven longevity of these old spinners — they are more than greatly appreciated.
For many years now, a lot of collectors basically looked down upon spinners — even though they have been responsible for more new anglers and fish caught then the conventionals.
Spinners have been popular for nearly 70 years now — and most folks have realized that there is a place for both conventional and spinners.
And the angling world, as well as the collecting world — reflects this new viewpoint.
One peave that bugs me — folks on eBay who have little or no interest or investment in tackle — selling Penn, DQ, Mitchell, and ABU parts for ripoff prices. Examples are springs for $5, or screws for a buck each, or gears and bearing sets for $20-$30.
Of course, demand and recent buying history dictate prices — as they always will.
It is always good to not follow my advice — buy high and sell low...
Best,
Fred
Quote from: foakes on December 31, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
Any of the old vintage QUALITY spinning reels from earlier than about 1980 — will appreciate in value.
Good examples are Penn, ABU & Zebco Cardinals, D.A.M. Quick, Mitchell to a certain extent (although the giant amount of Mitchell reels manufactured will keep the price down for a while longer, IMO), and others as long as they are quality metal, and parts are overbuilt and possibly still available.
As more folks learn about the quality, simplicity, and proven longevity of these old spinners — they are more than greatly appreciated.
For many years now, a lot of collectors basically looked down upon spinners — even though they have been responsible for more new anglers and fish caught then the conventionals.
Spinners have been popular for nearly 70 years now — and most folks have realized that there is a place for both conventional and spinners.
And the angling world, as well as the collecting world — reflects this new viewpoint.
One peave that bugs me — folks on eBay who have little or no interest or investment in tackle — selling Penn, DQ, Mitchell, and ABU parts for ripoff prices. Examples are springs for $5, or screws for a buck each, or gears and bearing sets for $20-$30.
Of course, demand and recent buying history dictate prices — as they always will.
It is always good to not follow my advice — buy high and sell low...
Best,
Fred
See what I mean... ;D Luv ya Fred. Dominick
Quote from: festus on December 30, 2018, 10:43:41 PM
Lately, particularly the last 6-8 weeks the supply of D-A-M Quicks has almost dried up on Ebay. At least on the auction section. Plenty of overpriced Buy It Now models, however. I have all I'll ever need but still look for bargains or parts reels.
Is this scarcity on account of the holiday season or just low supplies? If I remember correctly, a year ago there were plenty out there.
Most of the older quality spinning reel inventory on da Bay is very cyclical. In the winter it's too cold and the weather is too inconsistent for the garage & yard salers to be out & about finding new discoveries to market, except maybe in CA, FL, TX, etc. About the only people selling new finds right now are those that deal in tackle buying by advertising. Inventory will start to pick up again in a month or two.
Quote from: foakes on December 31, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
One peave that bugs me — folks on eBay who have little or no interest or investment in tackle — selling Penn, DQ, Mitchell, and ABU parts for ripoff prices. Examples are springs for $5, or screws for a buck each, or gears and bearing sets for $20-$30.
At least some parts are available, even at inflated prices. Not so with everything. My brother has an old Zebco 733F that had been a treasured gift from someone who is no longer with us. He caught his line on a rock last August and stripped the drive gear set. (Wouldn't have happened with a DAM Quick, but he doesn't care for spinners.)
I did my research, found the part number, and started searching. No luck. Some listed the part, but were out of stock. Mike's listed the part for $.99, but shipping was nearly $10! But that was the only place I found that wasn't out of stock, so I ordered one. (Hey, it's my brother!)
Two days later I get an email that they too are out of stock, and since it's no longer being made, they won't get any more. I had to give my brother the bad news. I really hate disappointing him like that.
Quote from: TJAndrews on January 01, 2019, 01:12:52 PM
I did my research, found the part number, and started searching. No luck. Some listed the part, but were out of stock. Mike's listed the part for $.99, but shipping was nearly $10!
TJ, set up a search on eBay, you can probably buy a whole 733 for the price of that part plus shipping. 8)
Fred, We appreciate you taking the time to educate us, I never knew the brand existed before I read the posts here. You are absolute correct, demand and supply.
It only takes 2 bidder to run up an item. I stay away from those.
Quote from: mo65 on January 01, 2019, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: TJAndrews on January 01, 2019, 01:12:52 PM
I did my research, found the part number, and started searching. No luck. Some listed the part, but were out of stock. Mike's listed the part for $.99, but shipping was nearly $10!
TJ, set up a search on eBay, you can probably buy a whole 733 for the price of that part plus shipping. 8)
We thought the same way, but on the day we looked everything was higher than that. But as long as the reel has to be replaced rather than repaired, he's looking at other, newer, models - but still Zebco. He's thinking maybe a new 888, but hasn't decided yet.
Quote from: foakes on December 31, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
One peave that bugs me — folks on eBay who have little or no interest or investment in tackle — selling Penn, DQ, Mitchell, and ABU parts for ripoff prices. Examples are springs for $5, or screws for a buck each, or gears and bearing sets for $20-$30.
Fred,
You should try living half way around the world! I needed an eccentric spring for an otherwise mint Sealine SMF170H. $5. Alright, I decide to play the game. $20 shipping. The seller wouldn't put it in a plain envelope, would only send registered and therefore wouldn't drop the shipping price. I stole the wrong spring out of a 400H, it's currently doing the job!
Cheers,
Andrew
I know how you feel Andrew. Was interested in a vintage Penn reel recently on the big site. The reel was $37.00 US and the shipping was $57.00 US.
Greg
Shipping has gotten so ridiculous it has taken the fun out of buying things on da Bay. Besides having lousy inventory and over priced BINs eBay has just about worked itself out of the used reel & tackle market. Their stupid policy of allowing free listings has resulted in sellers sticking ridiculous prices on non-auction items. If those seller had to pay for their listings sold or not they would get a lot more realistic in their starting prices and shipping charges.
Yup. They got me lookin for: "Buy it Now", plus "Make Offer"( which usually starts at 1/2 the asking price), plus "Free Shipping", to "All 50 States" ...
Was watching this one. I know it's new in box, but dang!
Someone has way more money than sense, that's for sure! ::)
I liked the old days on eBay when buyers weren't obscured. Back then a guy could contact one of those crazy bidders and offer them the same setup for just under their high bid and come out smelling like a rose. ;D
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 06, 2019, 02:25:20 AM
Shipping has gotten so ridiculous it has taken the fun out of buying things on da Bay.
Yes, it's ridiculous. I saw where nine D-A-M Quicks sold for parts reels cost $13.65 for expedited shipping. Those nine reels probably weigh at least six or seven pounds. Good deal. On the other hand, a seller was asking $15 to ship a single Shakespeare 2052, which only weighs 8 or 9 ounces.
Quote from: festus on January 07, 2019, 04:53:34 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 06, 2019, 02:25:20 AM
Shipping has gotten so ridiculous it has taken the fun out of buying things on da Bay.
Yes, it's ridiculous. I saw where nine D-A-M Quicks sold for parts reels cost $13.65 for expedited shipping. Those nine reels probably weigh at least six or seven pounds. Good deal. On the other hand, a seller was asking $15 to ship a single Shakespeare 2052, which only weighs 8 or 9 ounces.
Get mentally prepared. ???
Postage is going up again January 27. (https://blog.stamps.com/2018/10/19/usps-announces-postage-rate-increase-starts-january-27-2019/) ::)
Occasionally there are bargains in shipping — mostly though, actual shipping costs, or a small markup is involved. Sometimes, folks try to make their profit off of the shipping.
As for the postage costs, it is not a big deal for me. I just figure it is the cost of getting what I want. No one needs to buy a certain reel — they can always wait for another.
We should be grateful that postage, UPS, FedEx, and the internet is available to us.
It is still 1000 times more effective than trying to find items without using online & shipping.
If admitted — and truth be told, 90% of us have been able to build our inventory and continue our hobby because of reliable shipping, and the internet (including eBay!). Yard sales, word of mouth, and snail mail only reach a small percentage of the folks that want to sell what we want to buy.
We should not complain too much, IMO. Without shipping and the internet — we would not even be talking about this issue.
Best,
Fred
Right on Fred. If I want a part that costs $1.00 and shipping is $5.00 I understand that the part costs $6.00, period. Dominick
Sometimes I'll bite the bullet and go for it if the price and/or shipping is just somewhat high, but not if it looks like extortion.
And then sometimes, like a few days ago, I get really lucky and find one of my most absolute favorite vintage light-weight spinning reel models in nice condition within minutes after it was posted to the auction site by a 100% rated seller at an irresistible Buy-It-Now price with free shipping... and it arrives today instead of four days from now as projected!!! :P
Quote from: foakes on January 07, 2019, 07:17:18 PM
It is still 1000 times more effective than trying to find items without using online & shipping.
We should not complain too much, IMO. Without shipping and the internet — we would not even be talking about this issue.
Best,
Fred
Right. Trying to find old school reels in my neck of the woods is a wild goose chase. I've been to yard sales, fishing expos, more yard sales, pawn shops, scanned the bargain mart ads, even more yard sales and wasted a bunch of time and gasoline. Much more convenient and economical to order online.
I also agree. The interwebby makes everything easier, and many times cheaper. Especially new items. Finding good deals is no more than a fingertip away and one doesn't have to pay for gas while shopping. While I can view thousands of reels online, usually my best/cheapest buys are at local venues like flea markets, second hand shops, garage sales, etc. Specific hard to find items are much more easily purchased online, though.
Same here. Got lucky a couple of months ago when I was at my daughters down in Florida. A "older" guy (older than me!) who worked on reels was selling a bunch of his stuff. He obviously knew what his reels were worth, but he cut me a good deal on a "bundle" deal.
If you are diligent and patient you can still occasionally find the good deal on eBay.
Around here yard sales usually mean Zebco. And I don't mean Zebco Cardinals!
[/quote]Right. Trying to find old school reels in my neck of the woods is a wild goose chase. I've been to yard sales, fishing expos, more yard sales, pawn shops, scanned the bargain mart ads, even more yard sales and wasted a bunch of time and gasoline. Much more convenient and economical to order online.
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Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 01, 2019, 12:27:26 AMMost of the older quality spinning reel inventory on da Bay is very cyclical. In the winter it's too cold and the weather is too inconsistent for the garage & yard salers to be out & about finding new discoveries to market, except maybe in CA, FL, TX, etc. About the only people selling new finds right now are those that deal in tackle buying by advertising. Inventory will start to pick up again in a month or two.
You sure got that right, Tommy. Lately the stock is back to normal and there have been some decent deals. From five bucks to ten bucks, maybe two for $15 plus shipping.
Oh my! and there's still six days left! (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quick-DAM-1001-Spinning-Reel-Made-in-West-Germany-NIB-In-Storage-since-1980s/153365785246?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Ddf242c6d90f34882a24ccab83f2a91ad%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D153365785246%26itm%3D153365785246&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507) :o
This one's buy it now for 50 bucks less!!
I guess the lower price days are over again till next winter! Even rough looking reels going high. Oh well, I think I did pretty good. Loving my DAM reels knowing I got them going with some elbow grease...and Penn grease. 😁
Never say anything flattering about an old reel in public until you have amassed your own lifetime supply of them.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on March 01, 2019, 08:19:47 PM
Never say anything flattering about an old reel in public until you have amassed your own lifetime supply of them.
-steve
Please don't feed the lurkers.
Quote from: SilverRidge on April 28, 2017, 05:24:44 PM
I have noticed within the past month or two the pricing on eBay and amazon of these fine reels has spiked noticeably, averaging $10-15 on good to fair condition reels, $20-30 on fine condition and hard to acquire models, the Microlite 265s are averaging $75+, 110 and 110n $45-55, even the common 550 and 270 which were going for next to nothing are $15-$25, the trick is to find a reel that some one has no clue as to is worth, as I did as a lawn sale, picked up SW68 very very cheap, I'm embarrassed to tell you the price, do I feel terrible, nope, I'm Happy, Happy, Happy like the gent on Duck Dynasty says ....
Paul
This post is going on two years old, but prices haven't spiked that much since. I'm still seeing some of the more common models such as the Finessas, 220, 330, and 550 with little paint or chrome loss going from $15 to $30. The higher speed 331 and 331N are still reasonable. The less common 221 can be affordable with a little patience. Occasionally a fishable 110 or 110N may be found for less than 20 bucks, but more likely $30+ to $100. Shipping is what's driving up the cost. Here in East Tennessee D-A-M Quicks are scarce at yard sales, flea markets, and pawn shops, so buying online is practically the only option.
Quote from: festus on March 03, 2019, 07:53:55 AM
Quote from: SilverRidge on April 28, 2017, 05:24:44 PM
I have noticed within the past month or two the pricing on eBay and amazon of these fine reels has spiked noticeably, averaging $10-15 on good to fair condition reels, $20-30 on fine condition and hard to acquire models, the Microlite 265s are averaging $75+, 110 and 110n $45-55, even the common 550 and 270 which were going for next to nothing are $15-$25, the trick is to find a reel that some one has no clue as to is worth, as I did as a lawn sale, picked up SW68 very very cheap, I'm embarrassed to tell you the price, do I feel terrible, nope, I'm Happy, Happy, Happy like the gent on Duck Dynasty says ....
Paul
This post is going on two years old, but prices haven't spiked that much since. I'm still seeing some of the more common models such as the Finessas, 220, 330, and 550 with little paint or chrome loss going from $15 to $30. The higher speed 331 and 331N are still reasonable. The less common 221 can be affordable with a little patience. Occasionally a fishable 110 or 110N may be found for less than 20 bucks, but more likely $30+ to $100. Shipping is what's driving up the cost. Here in East Tennessee D-A-M Quicks are scarce at yard sales, flea markets, and pawn shops, so buying online is practically the only option.
As much as I would like for these to get up there and it would be well deserved, I agree with you Chester.
Price hasn't gone anywhere, there are a few sellers that think their reels are special, but for the most part, the price has remained dirt cheap.
Someone was selling 3- 270 for $49, no matter how they look, there is a bunch of parts in there that would make it more than worth it.
With that said, last year I purchased a large lot of Dam/Quick parts, my total with shipping was close to $700. I probably would have done better purchasing used reels and recycle the parts :-\... it is done now.
With the exception of the stupid hollow pin design that will most time fail when servicing, especially for someone that is not accustom to these, In my opinion they are actually better than Penn spinners, but don't even come close in value...maybe its the black ugly finish :-\
I like the dam/quick reels, but wouldn't go crazy on price to purchase one.
Just my opinion, of course...
Sal
How about the prices on the JUNIOR DQ??? ...Insane.
Quote from: basenjib123 on March 03, 2019, 05:27:11 PM
How about the prices on the JUNIOR DQ??? ...Insane.
Yup! those could get up there, but as mentioned above, Penn hold more value.
I sold a Penn 716 a couple of months back for $255, one of the same went for $355 a month ago.
Dam Quick has better anti-reverse, spool doesn't wobble as Penn and the option for left hand to right hand is also better.
But somehow, Penn holds more value.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 03, 2019, 07:50:31 PM
Penn hold more value.
I sold a Penn 716 a couple of months back for $255, one of the same went for $355 a month ago.
Dam Quick has better anti-reverse, spool doesn't wobble as Penn and the option for left hand to right hand is also better.
But somehow, Penn holds more value.
Sal
The Penn Geenie & Z value has to be the "Made in USA" factor, a few parts availability and the fact that they have somewhat of a "cult" following. I've never really understood that excessive value aspect. IMHO, while they are a quality reel, they're not that much better quality than, say, USA made Shakespeares, Pfluegers, Eagle Claw, Sears, Ted Williams, South Bend spinners of that same era, and a few others like the Dams, etc. ABU made Cardinals are a little different deal because of the uniqueness of the drag/brake design but all the others I listed are of similar design and quality.
Interesting how certain perceptions influence the resale vale of some of those '60s & early '70s manufactured spinners. At least, though, Penn hung in there with some quality spinners when many of the others gave up.
I never got the fascination with the "Greenies" ... Don't get me wrong, they are great reels but the black spinfisher penn's are the same inside (as far as I know)...The greenies have a metal side plate as opposed to the plastic but other than that, there is no difference, is there? The green ones were the first of the spin fishers so maybe that is it.. I agree with the opinion of the DQ reels being a bit better built. I do own both and like both but if I could only have one, I would take the DQ's.
I chalk it up to Northeast surf casters. Spinfishers were a huge hit with them and were THE spinner for long time. Yeah, a cult, clubby sort of thing. Sort of like that video we recently saw of casting 49 and 49A's for yellowtail in Australia. Everybody had one.
The Northeast surfcasters seemed to get a lot of attention and notoriety, especially when it came to Penn. I grew up shorefishing along the Gulf, but we kept close tabs on what was going on in the Northeast and South Florida because that's where new equipment and techniques seemed to emanate from.
To this day, I'd pick and pay triple for a greenie over a DAM, It's only because that's what I was conditioned to do by our cult/clubby group. Yeah.... weird.
-steve
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 03, 2019, 11:07:10 AM
As much as I would like for these to get up there and it would be well deserved, I agree with you Chester.
Price hasn't gone anywhere, there are a few sellers that think their reels are special, but for the most part, the price has remained dirt cheap.
Someone was selling 3- 270 for $49, no matter how they look, there is a bunch of parts in there that would make it more than worth it.
With that said, last year I purchased a large lot of Dam/Quick parts, my total with shipping was close to $700. I probably would have done better purchasing used reels and recycle the parts :-\... it is done now.
With the exception of the stupid hollow pin design that will most time fail when servicing, especially for someone that is not accustom to these, In my opinion they are actually better than Penn spinners, but don't even come close in value...maybe its the black ugly finish :-\
I like the dam/quick reels, but wouldn't go crazy on price to purchase one.
Just my opinion, of course...
Sal
I'm not a collector, I just like to fish with the 331 I've owned for some 45 years. All I know is I went looking for a 330/331 last November, so I could retire an old Mitchell that I don't like nearly as well, and wound up buying one of each at $40 for the combo. All they needed was a little TLC, and now they're all ready to catch some walleyes and smallmouths if this winter ever ends.
I figure I got a bargain.
Quote from: TJAndrews on March 06, 2019, 01:10:23 PM
I figure I got a bargain.
Yes, you did, TJ —
And maybe more important than $$$ — after your rejuvenating these great old Quicks — You now have some very capable reels that will spend a lot of time with you on the water —
Good work that will be repaid over and over again.
Best,
Fred
Quote from: oc1 on March 04, 2019, 06:59:09 AM
I chalk it up to Northeast surf casters. Spinfishers were a huge hit with them and were THE spinner for long time. Yeah, a cult, clubby sort of thing. Sort of like that video we recently saw of casting 49 and 49A's for yellowtail in Australia. Everybody had one.
The Northeast surfcasters seemed to get a lot of attention and notoriety, especially when it came to Penn. I grew up shorefishing along the Gulf, but we kept close tabs on what was going on in the Northeast and South Florida because that's where new equipment and techniques seemed to emanate from.
To this day, I'd pick and pay triple for a greenie over a DAM, It's only because that's what I was conditioned to do by our cult/clubby group. Yeah.... weird.
-steve
I live in the Northeast and I think you are probably right. This area is steeped in the sport of surf casting and likely explains a lot of it.
This D-A-M Quick 220N brought $102.53 a little while ago. :o No box, paperwork, or extra springs or other parts.
That is crazy, Spring fever? I think if i lost out at $100 I'd probably grab a BIN i saw for $30 but it's still there.
Remember, it's eBay — amateur buyers who get caught up in the fever.
Just do what Tommy does — stay calm — no drama — wait for a decent and fair BIN on a reel you want.
If not today — tomorrow, next week, or next month.
Patience.
If we want to know the real number — just take the last 10 of the same type and condition reel you want from the "SOLD" listings over the last 30 days, or so — toss out the lowest and highest — average the other 8 — that is your target number. Anything less than that is good — a little more for the right reel is OK. But you have useful knowledge at this point — not emotion.
With rare exceptions for one of a kind, or limited collector pieces — There are almost always — more reels.
Just my opinions.
Best,
Fred
doesn't hurt to ask either, just bought a reel while looking at the one Festus posted ::) :)
Fred is correct, & thanks for the compliment, Fred!
Patience, and knowledge, are the keys. For mass produced models there will almost always be another one show up, and many times one in better condition. If a person is going to buy at auction without personally fondling the item there are a few photo tricks to look for like bad lighting, blurred photos, not photographing one side or area, etc. Those lessons are are learned. I've been lucky. In over 20 years & 700+ purchases I've only had 4 or 5 that I wish I could have back, and all of those issues, once I received the items were things that should have been caught by me. Some people ask for refunds but I figure if I should have looked closer it's my fault. Describing "new" when it's "used" is a whole different story, though.
Now, with all that said, I have been known to, on a few purchases that completed a specific line, pay too much for something I wanted badly. My thinking was "now I can mark that off the list and don't have to look for it any more". The ironic thing is that in a couple of those instances one just as nice came up down the road for a little bit better price. That's all part of collecting, though. ;)
All good points Tommy! I collected camp stoves and lanterns and bought a few i shoulda looked at pic's closer too! If they don't show a main feature it's probably buggered up unless they are very unfamiliar with it so best to ask or pass.
Seems to be a shortage of spools for the 220. I've seen a couple of our members looking to buy this item with no luck. There has been one of these spools listed on the auction for almost eight bucks plus more than four bucks shipping. Wouldn't be a bad deal if it wasn't chipped badly. Maybe the retainer, spool shaft, drag washers, clicker and springs are intact, but the drag knob is discolored. In the long run it's probably best just to buy a parts reel.
Quote from: nagant on March 08, 2019, 12:04:41 PM
doesn't hurt to ask either, just bought a reel while looking at the one Festus posted ::) :)
If it's the reel I'm thinking of, you got a good deal!