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Title: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Fishead on August 23, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
It looks like the S series might be the worst reels he made. The base of this reel has 4 screws that rusted and broke off in it. I got the base to come out.  I do not see any means of removing the left side plate to access the broken screw studs and possibly replace them or try and use a tiburon frame. Is there a trick to taking this side plate off? The 2 screw holes have a flat stud looking piece instead of means to use a screwdriver to remove them.
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: alantani on August 23, 2019, 05:27:34 PM
been there.  in the worst case, you'll have to drill out or grind off the tops of the screws, remove the side plate and then torch the studs.  this will not be easy.....   :-\
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Fishead on August 23, 2019, 07:21:31 PM
Question is, if I can get the side plate off, will it work with a tiburon frame. I don't care if I destroy the frame if I can save the side plates and make it work with a different frame. At least the reel will be usable. I'm not going to go through all that work to save it otherwise. It will be a parts reel. I have 2 tiburon frames here, if it won't save this reel I will use it on one of my older C or P  series 332's
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Swami805 on August 23, 2019, 10:50:06 PM
Yes the sideplates work fine in the Tiburon frame once all the screws are out. Those long screws can be a real pain if they're corroded.
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Hamachi on August 24, 2019, 12:01:13 AM
Put the nuts or screw heads back on from the drive side you just took off. Now hammer those screws until you get space between the frame on the other side or the heads of the screws come out enough to grab with vise grips. Broken through screws? Stick them back in and hammer until there's enough room between the frame and side plate to cut them off.
I would try to not ruin the old frame parts, someone could use them. They're getting scarce. Find the right buyer and it'll pay for your tiburon frame.
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Newell Nut on August 24, 2019, 12:13:13 AM
Sorry you ran into a problem like that. The long crossbolts are found in some S models and some C models. Anytime making a purchase always look for a picture of the left side plate to see the smooth screw head with no slot. On the larger 600 models you can find them by  seeing a Phillips head screw on the left side plate and slotted screw head on the handle side. This is a long crossbolt arrangement.

If you find a clean reel and remove those crossbolts and then grease them heavily you will not have a problem. I have a few that work perfect and no issue at all. When they were factory assembled they were not greased and that is the failure mechanism.

Dwight
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Fishead on August 24, 2019, 04:14:15 PM
The frame is already toast in my book. All 4 screws rusted and broke off in the base. I'm not going to try and remove them. Too much work for me. I will have to hunt up the proper screws to install the tiburon frame if I'm able to get side plates off. It is not my reel and owner already told me to make it a parts reel but I may give it on more try. If it doesn't work the parts reel will have scars from my attempt.
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Swami805 on August 24, 2019, 04:26:18 PM
Check ebay for the screws, search Newell seller whittierte  I think, he sells the screws as a set. Super easy and doesn't cost much
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Fishead on August 26, 2019, 03:23:56 AM
Got it apart. Crazy they didn't put any grease on those long studs when they assembled the reel. I got 1 out in one piece, all the rest were in 2 pieces.
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: alantani on August 26, 2019, 04:34:16 PM
Quote from: Fishead on August 26, 2019, 03:23:56 AM
Crazy they didn't put any grease on those long studs when they assembled the reel.

no argument there.....   :-\
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: TEAMFISH on August 29, 2019, 03:29:29 AM
Quote from: Fishead on August 24, 2019, 04:14:15 PM
The frame is already toast in my book. All 4 screws rusted and broke off in the base. I'm not going to try and remove them. Too much work for me. I will have to hunt up the proper screws to install the tiburon frame if I'm able to get side plates off. It is not my reel and owner already told me to make it a parts reel but I may give it on more try. If it doesn't work the parts reel will have scars from my attempt.
I believe the Tib frames come with new screws
Title: Re: S 332-5 left side plate removal - help
Post by: Fishead on September 01, 2019, 08:17:08 PM
FYI, the tiburon frames do not come with the screws. I ended using a punch to get the broken stand screws out. Wasn't as difficult as I thought. Still put the tuburon frame on though. If anyone needs S332 crossbars or stand, let me know.