Here's a couple of new additions to my arsenal. Mint condition Penn 12/0 and a Harnell unlimited class rod. They go pretty good together.
Sweet looking rig !!
Match made in heaven, great find Mike! Looks like someone had high hopes for some big game fishing and just never made it
Mike,
That is a very nice Unlimited,,,,,,
And thought my 2580 100 wt was in good shape ::)
Sure Mike rub it in !!! Sweet combo !! John Taylor
I've just scored a 9/0 and now I've got to find something BIGGER :( ;D ;D ;D ;D
Other than the condition of this rig there is something else that is unusual about it. Anyone care to take a stab at at it?
Quote from: The Great Maudu on November 26, 2017, 06:47:42 PM
Other than the condition of this rig there is something else that is unusual about it. Anyone care to take a stab at at it?
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What you paid for it ?? Lol !! John Taylor
Nice Rig Mike.
Is it the Black Handle? or because it isn't mine. ;)
Not exactly Brother but look at the Reel seat.
Quote from: The Great Maudu on November 26, 2017, 08:01:55 PM
Not exactly Brother but look at the Reel seat.
That is one sweet looking Harnell!
I am not seeing anything special about the reel seat, other then then maybe the size?
My Harnell has a smaller diameter seat, but similar sized guides.
John
John yours is an RS-5 so smaller and yours is the older compression fit and doesn't have the "H" for heavy. His is RS-6H. But Mike like John I don't see anything unusual about your reel seat ? Let's have it ! John Taylor
I don't know how you do it Mike, but that's an incredible find.
-steve
I'll give you another hint ....
custom lug bolts to fit around that fat reel seat?
I don't know how common it is for a 12/0 to fit on an RS-6H but I haven't seen it before
Big reel seat. huh!
Mike, what an outstanding setup! The reel is a beauty but the Harnell is absolutely awesome. I still have a few of these beautiful miscellaneous blanks left and plan to get to them this winter.
Keep em coming, Bud!
.................Lou
I don't think that is a custom Reel foot. My money is on a 14 / 0 Reel foot just moved to the 12.
Here's a few more pics of the two sister rods that came home with me. One is a 60# class and the other is an 80# class. 52bullseye, all three rods are compression fittings. All are in unused condition with their respective sleeves. One of the best things is I know the story behind these three beauties.
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Very nice group of rods Mike !! You gonna let us in on the "REST OF THE STORY" about the rods ?? John Taylor
That's a sweet combo. Looks like new.
Holy Cow!!!! :o
Mike,
I have seen that phenomenon one other time.
It was from Sal.
A 12/0 reel seat with a 14/0 stance.
Those rods are breathtaking brother.
I'll show you my New Barrett when I drop off your 16/0.
Beautiful set Mike, don't see many in that shape. Varmac seats are very tough.
Enjoy it!
Sal
I can't wait to see that! I'm going out of town again but I'll be back on the 7th. Maybe the 8th or 9th you can come over and bring that new magic wand.
John you wanted the Rest of the Story. After paying the gentleman for the rods he asked if I would like to know the story behind the rods. I said of course and he began telling me about his best friend, the Colonel. The Colonel was stationed in Myrtle Beach in the early 60's. He had to have the best of everything whether it was guns, fishing tackle or anything he collected. He bought these rods and reels while he was stationed at Myrtle Beach. Apparently he didn't get to use them as they show no signs of having ever been out on the water. The Colonel was a true American hero and representative of The Greatest Generation. I have included his obituary as it gives insight into an extraordinary life. Sorry for the quality of the pic but it is readable.
We owe a LOT, to folks like that !
Very Cool Mike. ;)
I realize the Harnells are the stars of the show but, I'm really curious about the reel. Here is a side by side comparison.
Is the one on the left a 10/0 ?
John the one on the left is also a 12/0. I know it looks so much smaller. The 12/0 on the right immediately caught my eye and piqued my curiosity when I first saw it. Something looked different about it and when compared to a standard 12/0 there's definitely a difference.
What do the post lengths measure on each reel? Can you reel the line off the new reel onto another reel to look at the spool? I'm staring at that pic like they have boobs.
The obituary says Colonel Johnson had a complete machine shop and made a fully functional scale model coal fired steam engine tractor over four years. So, anything is possible here.
-steve
Quote from: 54bullseye on November 27, 2017, 07:44:11 PM
Is the one on the left a 10/0 ?
There is no aluminum spool made for the 10/0.
That reel has a Keta Krank on it, so I'm pretty sure it came from me.
Quote from: 1badf350 on November 27, 2017, 08:35:25 PM
What do the post lengths measure on each reel? Can you reel the line off the new reel onto another reel to look at the spool? I'm staring at that pic like they have boobs.
that's funny right there '
Shark Hunter you are correct. That is a Reel you did for me over a year ago.
I hadn't really thought about it but if the 12/0 and the 14/0 are the same width then it would be an easy matter to beef up the 12 with the wider, bigger reel stand.
I didn't even realize they used the same posts.
According to Scotts, they do.
I need to check the stand bolt pattern.
It's much wider as you can see. That's why that 12/0 fits a Reel seat made for 14/16's. Pretty cool. But wait, would the screw holes match up on a 14/0 and 12/0 plate?
That is what I need to find out. Film at 11. ;)
I'm out of 14/0 stands, but I have plenty of 14/0 reels and 12/0 parts.
Sure enough, a 12/0 and 14/0 stand have the same bolt pattern and will interchange.
The genius of Penn. It sure makes for one stud looking reel.
You learn something new every day brother.
Thank You. ;)
So, he either turned down a 14/0 spool to fit 12/0 plates or widened a 12/0 spool. If the spool is turned down then there is more spool shaft sticking out. Are 12/0 and 14/0 journals the same? To widen the spool.... well that's just plain difficult unless the flanges can be removed and put on a 14/0 spool shaft. Sorry Mike, but you sort of have to strip the line off and pull the spool or it's an unsolved mystery. You started it man. :)
-steve
Yup!, that line needs to come off, its the only way you'll see what's going on.
That is an aluminum spool, I don't believe it has been cut in the center and a bushing was added to make up the needed room, but you never know.
Spool shaft could be pulled on those. I have done it on the 4/0 with no problem, but you would still need to machine the spool and extend that shaft.
If by a remote chance that reel came from Penn, you're sitting on a lot of dough, but I doubt it :-\
The hole patter is the same, but the cut plate is of the same thickness. So, the 12/0, 14/0, or 16/0 isn't necessarily stronger than the 10/0.
There have always been few parts on Penn reels that could be swapped on different reels, if you look hard enough you might even find an International stand that will fit a Senator :o.
Cool reel Mike obviously you have some good connection. Thanks for sharing your treasures with us.
Sal
Here's a pic of the Colonels reel (with line) and a 14/0. They appear to be the same width and Daron says the crossbars are the same. What I can see of the spool, it appears to be chromed brass. I think this is simply a case of switching out a 12/0 stand for a 14/0 stand. The Shark Hunter is coming over to the house when I get back from Oklahoma next week so if he deems we need to remove the line we will. Although, it's laid on so perfectly I don't know if I could get it all back on. It is filled to the brim so much so I don't think it was ever intended for fishing.
Some of Mike's pics give the Illusion that the Harnell 12/0 is wider.
It is just a 12/0 with a 14/0 stand.
I remember Sal posting something up a while back that he had a stand that was stamped incorrectly.
I know it had to do with a 116 or 117.
So, this is the case of a bad picture angle :). The only reason I got on the conversation was that the 12/0 on the right appeared wider. you'll never know with Mike, anything out of the ordinary is possible :)
You have good memory Daron, that stand is for the 118, stamped 117.
Sal
The illusion is very realistic even without a camera. The Reel stand, rod clamp, and especially the the spool with the line wound all the way to the top gives this Reel the appearance of being bigger than it actually is. I originally posted I thought it had a 14/0 stand and when Daron confirmed the bolt pattern was the same then it was pretty much mystery solved. I wonder if a 10/0 stand would fit a 9/0 Reel?
Oh, I forgot the 12/0 and 14/0 are the same width. I'm so sorry to have confused things and screwed up the thread.
-steve
Quote from: The Great Maudu on November 28, 2017, 07:05:14 PM
The illusion is very realistic even without a camera. The Reel stand, rod clamp, and especially the the spool with the line wound all the way to the top gives this Reel the appearance of being bigger than it actually is. I originally posted I thought it had a 14/0 stand and when Daron confirmed the bolt pattern was the same then it was pretty much mystery solved. I wonder if a 10/0 stand would fit a 9/0 Reel?
No such luck Mike, the 10/0 stand will not fit the 9/0.
Quote from: oc1 on November 28, 2017, 07:39:16 PM
Oh, I forgot the 12/0 and 14/0 are the same width. I'm so sorry to have confused things and screwed up the thread.
-steve
You or anyone else did not confuse anything, I thought all were good questions.
Sal
Yes, They were. ;)
I even learned something new from it. ;D
Yes, all were very good, interesting and entertaining. I'm nowhere near the collector a lot of guys on here are but I love finding interesting pieces. For me, this is THE place to come for knowledge. If it wasn't for this site I probably would have never met the Shark Hunter. It doesn't get any more interesting and entertaining than that.
I stopped by Mike's Place tonight to drop off his 16/0 and to see those Harnell Rods.
Holy Cow! The three rods look like brand spanking new.
That was a find of a lifetime right there.
Congrats Mike.
Mike you may not have quantity at least yet but what I see is you have some serious quality in your pieces. Love seeing the old rods especially in that shape. We have a few guys sandbagging that should show some pics of their classics. Wish they were in my pawnshops to find lol. You just get five dollar 4/0 flea market specials from me.
Thank you Shark Hunter for delivering my souped up, double dogged 16/0 shark reel. Every time I look at those Harnell rods I have a hard time believing the condition they are in. But the Barrett / Everol dipped combo you brought to show me was the star of the show. You have a one of a kind rig that the sharks will be lining up to get hooked on. Anyway it was a fun afternoon. Come back anytime.
There's plenty of quantity too.
Mike is that your collection?
That was part of it. I had so much stuff I decided to take what I didn't want or need and open a booth at an antique mall.
You're scaring me Mike.... what with the hang tags and display cases. We might have to do an intervention.
-steve
nice
Quote from: oc1 on December 17, 2017, 06:38:43 AM
You're scaring me Mike.... what with the hang tags and display cases. We might have to do an intervention.
-steve
It's a great comfort to know you are concerned about my welfare Steve. Perhaps when you're not posting on the internet, re-engineering reels, building rods and making your own fishing line you could take the time to help me understand how to better deal with my obsession. ;-)
I'm thinking we need to take a road trip and visit Mike's booth and relieve him some some product. Purely to increase his "warehouse" space, so he can add additional product ::) ::) Bill