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Title: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: wailua boy on February 14, 2017, 06:58:56 AM
I've used vinegar before with decent results. What do guys think is best? Also what works best for restoring the side plates from some of the older penn conventionals? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: Reel 224 on February 14, 2017, 12:59:22 PM
I would say vinegar solution and simple green. Vinegar for metal and simple green for the Bakelite side plates.

Joe 
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: RowdyW on February 14, 2017, 01:24:10 PM
Simple Green will not restore your plates only clean the grunge off of them. The only solution I have found is polishing compound and a buffing wheel to get some of the luster back.                   Rudy
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: Midway Tommy on February 14, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
 :o I haven't tried it yet because I try to avoid anything that's been subjected to salt water but if you're working on an isolated area of verdigris or corrosion film and don't want to disassemble the entire reel they say pasting on some ketchup, letting it sit over night, wipe it off and polishing with x-fine steel wool gets amazing results.  ??? The density holds it in place, vinegar does the cleansing and steel wool the polishing. FYI, it will turn brass a copper color, therefore the steel wool followup.   
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: mo65 on February 14, 2017, 05:23:03 PM
   Thanks for the tip Tommy...hadn't heard that one yet.  8)
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: Wolli on February 14, 2017, 06:15:59 PM
can not understand why the side rings and frame posts are not made from stainless steel.
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: RowdyW on February 14, 2017, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: Wolli on February 14, 2017, 06:15:59 PM
can not understand why the side rings and frame posts are not made from stainless steel.
They are now on the Penn Chinese reels.
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: oc1 on February 14, 2017, 08:14:18 PM
The disappointing thing is that after using acid and steel wool or polishing compound, the reel is more vulnerable to corrosion than it was before.  Cleaning it up before putting it on the shelf is probably a good idea.  But, if the reel is going back out into the ocean that may not be the best thing to do.  Removal or thinning of the plating by polishing is going to make corrosion worse in the future.  The verdigris is basic (high pH) and provides some protection from continued oxidation.  I am wondering if just greasing the surface would not be a better approach.

Side plate weathering is also an oxidation process.  The plasticizers are broken down.  Again, the oxidized surface is providing some protection the against further degradation.  Something like Armor All or 303 Aerospace might help.  Rubbing it down with oil or grease might do the same thing.
-steve
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: sdlehr on February 15, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
Quote from: oc1 on February 14, 2017, 08:14:18 PM
Something like Armor All or 303 Aerospace might help.  Rubbing it down with oil or grease might do the same thing.
-steve
I've used Armor All with good results, but I don't regularly use anything on a side plate that could cause it to swell unless I'm convinced that the swelling would not cause a new problem. This can particularly be a problem with the 149 and some of the Senator models where swollen side plates cause cracked trim rings.

Sid
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: Reel 224 on February 15, 2017, 07:10:44 PM
Sid: I was curious as to what would cause the swelling of the plates, I hope it wasn't simple green.

Joe
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: wailua boy on February 16, 2017, 03:39:56 AM
Thanks everyone for responses.
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: oc1 on February 16, 2017, 07:00:52 AM
Side plates can swell with the reel sitting on a shelf for a few decades.  I would not be surprised if humidity has something to do with it. Supposedly, bakelite can take up moisture.  But, this is not to say that soaking in simple green would not speed things along.
-steve
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: exp2000 on February 16, 2017, 08:33:09 AM
The Original and still the best  ;)

Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: Reel 224 on February 16, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: exp2000 on February 16, 2017, 08:33:09 AM
The Original and still the best  ;)



Is that actually a product if so, what is it?

Joe
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: akfish on February 16, 2017, 02:59:41 PM
I soak corroded parts in Salt-x, diluted to about 6:1. It works well and is non-toxic.
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: exp2000 on February 16, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on February 16, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: exp2000 on February 16, 2017, 08:33:09 AM
The Original and still the best  ;)



Is that actually a product if so, what is it?

Joe

I would be surprised Joe.

I just came up with an idea and Google did the rest :)
~
Title: Re: What is the best solution for corrosion removal?
Post by: Reel 224 on February 16, 2017, 03:29:05 PM
I see ;D Good suggestion though.

Joe