Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn International Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: barkley1956 on June 18, 2017, 04:01:09 PM

Title: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: barkley1956 on June 18, 2017, 04:01:09 PM
So I had a 50SW with a really stuck top right side plate screw. I did my best to loosen it by soaking it a few days and then some heat but it was in solid. Sent to my buddy who works in a machine shop (where I used to work until I retired) and it did not go well. He drilled right thru the top of the housing.  :( Anyone know where I might find a frame? Part # 183-50SW
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: Bill B on June 18, 2017, 06:23:20 PM
It is no longer available from pennpart.com, best I can suggest is ebay, JDLtreasures or Randy at Vintage Offshore tackle.  Beyond that maybe a donor reel......Hopefully others may chime in.....Bill
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: Sluggo on June 18, 2017, 11:38:56 PM
Maybe post a wtb on bloody decks I saw a few international frames for sale either there or eBay within the last 2 weeks  I don't remember which size they were
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: Indyfisher on June 19, 2017, 02:11:27 AM
You have a picture of the damage? There could be a solution if it's only cosmetic and a lot cheaper fix than a new frame.
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: thorhammer on June 19, 2017, 02:43:21 AM
May be able to install a heli coil.  $3. 
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: Sluggo on June 19, 2017, 05:47:48 PM
Found this today don't see a sw maybe worth asking if he has one https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/penn-international-2-frames-parts-cheap.657818/#post-4356269
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: barkley1956 on June 20, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Here are a few pics. Thank you for your replies!!!
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: MarkT on June 20, 2017, 08:39:34 PM
Well, the stuck screw is gone!  Did you forget to add "keep the frame intact" to your requirements?
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: conchydong on June 20, 2017, 10:49:27 PM
 Give Tiburon a call. I think they make a frame with a removable crossbar for 50SWs. If you needed a 50S, I could have helped you out.

Good Luck,

Scott
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: thorhammer on June 20, 2017, 10:52:22 PM
Ow. Randy Pauly may have something.
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 20, 2017, 11:09:51 PM
Dang!
What is the name of that shop, so I know not to go there. :D
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: handi2 on June 20, 2017, 11:14:44 PM
I would use it like it is. No one would steal it :)
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: Indyfisher on June 20, 2017, 11:17:37 PM
Tell your machinist friend it's time for him to retire. You're going to need a new frame. I don't think it could be weld filled, grinded down and tapped. I'm sorry but you could have done better with a 12 volt drill free hand.
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: barkley1956 on June 21, 2017, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: Indyfisher on June 20, 2017, 11:17:37 PM
Tell your machinist friend it's time for him to retire. You're going to need a new frame. I don't think it could be weld filled, grinded down and tapped. I'm sorry but you could have done better with a 12 volt drill free hand.

That is exactly my thought
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: barkley1956 on June 21, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Quote from: handi2 on June 20, 2017, 11:14:44 PM
I would use it like it is. No one would steal it :)

The threads still grab deep so that is what I am going to do! I will seal it with something from outside.
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: foakes on June 21, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
Hi Barkley --

If you seal it with something from the outside -- there will still be an issue with future service when disassembling -- like any Bondo or filler substance.

Since the threads still grab and have a strong bite --

You might consider a polished piece of SS, or brass -- snug it up to the harness lug -- keep the lettering visible -- attach with (2) countersunk SS screws, tapping down into the frame -- slightly curve the plate to match the circular arc of the frame -- have a trophy shop engrave your name on the plate for $15.

Then this will also hide all of the crud and corrosion pits after you smooth them down -- if you snug it up to the harness lug -- and it does not protrude past the edges of the lug.

And it will be custom.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: Indyfisher on June 22, 2017, 01:59:48 AM
I agree with Fred and Keith, if the screw still has bite and does it's purpose find a way to cover up the damage. It's going to cost a lot of time searching and money for a new frame. Don't seal the screw in you want to be able to remove it again. Fred's patch seems like the best idea and the cheapest solution.
Title: Re: 50SW Frame mishap
Post by: barkley1956 on June 23, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: foakes on June 21, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
Hi Barkley --

If you seal it with something from the outside -- there will still be an issue with future service when disassembling -- like any Bondo or filler substance.

Since the threads still grab and have a strong bite --

You might consider a polished piece of SS, or brass -- snug it up to the harness lug -- keep the lettering visible -- attach with (2) countersunk SS screws, tapping down into the frame -- slightly curve the plate to match the circular arc of the frame -- have a trophy shop engrave your name on the plate for $15.

Thank you Fred, that's a good plan!!!!

Then this will also hide all of the crud and corrosion pits after you smooth them down -- if you snug it up to the harness lug -- and it does not protrude past the edges of the lug.

And it will be custom.

Best,

Fred