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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Rocket Dog on August 27, 2020, 10:22:58 PM

Title: 113h Drag, 7-stack or 113hx
Post by: Rocket Dog on August 27, 2020, 10:22:58 PM
I'm building a new 4/0 and wanted get some impute on the 7-stack vs the 113hx or even the 5-stack. I have NOS 4:1 Newell gears and SS gear sleeve, DD, Tib narrow frame, ect. Live in SoCal, so  it'll be used from everything. Just wanted to know how smooth each are and amount of drag they get in the real world. I now the 113HX more than just the drag, but still  want to know if anyone has both and what they prefer. It also seems that the 113hx is the strongest followed by the 7 and 5.

Thanks
Title: Re: 113h Drag, 7-stack or 113hx
Post by: alantani on August 27, 2020, 11:09:03 PM
what line weight are you going to fish and how much drag do you want?
Title: Re: 113h Drag, 7-stack or 113hx
Post by: Rocket Dog on August 27, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Hi Alan, I have 80lbs braid, so.... if I want to break stuff, well 80, but most likely 60lbs. It's always a fine line.  ;)
Title: Re: 113h Drag, 7-stack or 113hx
Post by: RowdyW on August 28, 2020, 12:25:54 AM
Dog, if you are using 60# line then the 5 stack would work fine. For 80# line I would go for either the 7+1 or hex. The 7+1 uses original Penn HT- 100 cf washers which are easier to find if replacement should become neccessary. One thing you will find is that as you increase the drag surface area the drag adjustment becomes more touchy by ramping up faster. As far as smoothness they are all smooth especially if you coat them with Cal's. For regular use I prefer the original 5 stack & for heavy use I prefer the 7+1 setup. None of the choices are the wrong choice.          Rudy
Title: Re: 113h Drag, 7-stack or 113hx
Post by: Rocket Dog on August 28, 2020, 12:33:39 AM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 28, 2020, 12:25:54 AM
Dog, if you are using 60# line then the 5 stack would work fine. For 80# line I would go for either the 7+1 or hex. The 7+1 uses original Penn HT- 100 cf washers which are easier to find if replacement should become neccessary. One thing you will find is that as you increase the drag surface area the drag adjustment becomes more touchy by ramping up faster. As far as smoothness they are all smooth especially if you coat them with Cal's. For regular use I prefer the original 5 stack & for heavy use I prefer the 7+1 setup. None of the choices are the wrong choice.          Rudy

Thanks, I was able to find that posted on a different thread, but was hard to tell if 1/4 a adjustments where increasing the drag by +2, +4, +5. Your point on the accessibility of the ht-100 was also on my mind, but how often do they need replacement? I think I have only replaced  1 or 2 in the last few years, though never the enter stack.
Title: Re: 113h Drag, 7-stack or 113hx
Post by: alantani on August 28, 2020, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 28, 2020, 12:25:54 AM
Dog, if you are using 60# line then the 5 stack would work fine. Rudy

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Title: Re: 113h Drag, 7-stack or 113hx
Post by: Swami805 on August 28, 2020, 01:15:34 AM
I think I would go with the 7+1, just a couple $ more and should last a very long time and the metals are nice and flat. Those newell gears a nice, with the other SS stuff you could you're set