Reel Repair by Alan Tani

what line are you planning to put on the reel?

Randy? do you have an estimated line capacity for this reel for 65# and 80# braid?
this will be a killer reel here in north sea of cortez for bottom fishing and light/medium trolling, glad I never bought a YTS kit for the 113h, with my 2 Baja Special reels Im covered on that line capacity and style of fishing, but this extra narrow reel makes the Baja Special look like standar width reel.

I will probably load mine with 80# braid and then mono topshots from 20-60# depending on what I'm fishing for

Great yo-yo reel, 80lb braid 60lb topshot.

Ill fish mine when I get it together.  Probably more likely to see action than my 113hlw. 

I'm putting 65lb spectra with 40lb mono.  Rockfish closes here soon so the search for homeguard yellow and WSB will begin.

I'll load with 65 lb braid and a 60 lb leader and use for lighter jigs (12 oz) in less than 300 feet of water for rockfish, lings and halibut here off of Vancouver island. I can't have a reel and not fish it at least a few times. It would be good for trolling rapalas when I fish Ixtapa inshore or live bait for roosters.

Cheers:

Todd

I'll probably go 60 lb hollow and yes I will fish it.

I plan on filling mine with solid JB 50# because I have 1/2 of a 2500yd spool, otherwise I would use JB 60. I will use this reel for lingcod and other shallow/mid depth bottomfish.

off the top, i would guess 300 yards of 80 pound braid and a 25 yard topshot of 50 pound mono, drags set to 15 pounds.  i'm curious to see what it actually holds! 

Quote from: alantani on December 29, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
off the top, i would guess 300 yards of 80 pound braid and a 25 yard topshot of 50 pound mono, drags set to 15 pounds.  i'm curious to see what it actually holds! 

If my line counter worked I could tell you how much 50# they hold.

 That's what they make them for. Going to be Fishing mine  with 50lb braid for cod haddock /pollack.
  normally use a stock reel. with lots of extra line & backing. I have  my "lucky"  crusty old 113h to bolt it to.



Tight Lines Richie

The whole idea of building these reels is to use them. If you collect them make sure you live long enough to show them off. I you kick off they will end up in some auction and sold for penny's on the dollar. Make sure who ever you plan to leave them to understands their value. That might not help either they may sell them to buy junk with. You never know what they will do.

Mike

Quote from: mikeysm on December 29, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
The whole idea of building these reels is to use them. If you collect them make sure you live long enough to show them off. I you kick off they will end up in some auction and sold for penny's on the dollar. Make sure who ever you plan to leave them to understands their value. That might not help either they may sell them to buy junk with. You never know what they will do.

Mike

So true.

Mine will be fished as soon as possible. When bottom fishing we dont use a top shot. Straight braid, slide on a sinker, barrel swivel, and mono leader. If I used it for slow jigging I would use a top shot. Ill probably use 65lb Daiwa J braid because I have a bunch. This is I ever have time to put it together.

Keith

These reels will certainly have a multitude of uses for many different fisheries. Sometimes I fish for king salmon with 500' of downrigger cable out and spectra is a must. These reels will be perfect for that fishery

  Ted

Quote from: Hardy Boy on December 29, 2017, 05:46:33 AM
I'll load with 65 lb braid and a 60 lb leader and use for lighter jigs (12 oz) in less than 300 feet of water for rockfish, lings and halibut here off of Vancouver island. I can't have a reel and not fish it at least a few times. It would be good for trolling rapalas when I fish Ixtapa inshore or live bait for roosters.
Cheers:Todd

nice, thats how I plan to use mine, but 80# braid, bottom fishing on reefs with average 300-350ft and trolling rapalas inshore, if I can fit 300yds of 80# like the Boss estimate I will be golden.

Quote from: surfcaster on December 29, 2017, 09:20:37 PM
That's what they make them for.

Quote from: mikeysm on December 29, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
The whole idea of building these reels is to use them.

well Im asking cuz I also think that the main idea of building and upgrade reels is to fish them above the stock specs and show them off along the fish catch, but a lot of folks here like to collect reels and I have nothing against that but I would like to see this reel on lots of pictures on the "members fishing reports" section, thats the reason of asking  ;)

Quote from: alantani on December 29, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
off the top, i would guess 300 yards of 80 pound braid and a 25 yard topshot of 50 pound mono, drags set to 15 pounds.  i'm curious to see what it actually holds! 

I just spooled my T4N1 kit reel with 420 yards of 80lb solid braid. I was a little surprised that this spool holds that much line. I am excited to get out and fish this unique reel.

Thanks again, Randy and everyone here who contributed in some way to this project getting done.

Smols

Wow.. thats a lot of Line

Your line must be very thin, if Im not mistaken I could only put 450 yds of 80 # braid to my Baja Special

Wow. Alan was close. He said he thinks it'll hold 500 yards on 80# solid braid.

 I just loaded my reel up with 65lb solid Izor, to within 1/8" of being jammed full, there's around 350-400yds on there. Hell I had 485 yds of 80lb Threadlock put on my 40nld2 so I really have my doubts about getting that much on a spool that's 3/8" narrower, if you can get 300-400yds that should be plenty. I'm setting my reels up to fish Croakers & Jacks in the kelp with kelpcutter rigs, I will fish 40lb, the other get 50lb, short topshots, 3.25-1 gears. Ed

Maybe the tackle store where I had it spooled ripped me off or their line counter is wrong (perhaps both). Either way, the Reel holds more line than what is needed for how I intend to use it.

Quote from: Smols on January 06, 2018, 07:18:57 PM
Maybe the tackle store where I had it spooled ripped me off or their line counter is wrong (perhaps both). Either way, the Reel holds more line than what is needed for how I intend to use it.

naah, I dont think so, depending on the line brand and how many pounds is used on the spooler machine is the line filled on the spool.
spiderwire braid is really thin on the 80# test.
if thats the case I might use 100# and check if I can fit 300yds, that will be golden, that helps a lot to not lose many lures on the sticky rocky bottom.

I just spooled mine with 80 lb spider wire solid and got a hair over 375 yards with spool filled to 1/8 inch of top then 12 feet of 60 lb top shot .............. ready to jig once something opens. I got a good deal on the 80 lb so I went with that instead of 65. The spool fills fast once you are near the top. I'm using stock gears. My 4 to 1 are on a YTS.

Cheers:


Todd.

Thanks Todd for the update
Mine is almost ready and it will have stock internals for now.

I am very excited to fill mine with 50 pound suffix braid and a 50 pound mono wind on. What a beautiful reel

yeah, from juan lezama!  400 yards of 80 pound p-line teflon coated solid braid and a 33 yard topshot of 50 pound berkely big game, drags set to 15 pounds.  the braid was loaded up under 10 pounds of pressure on the line winder.  gorgeous reel!!!!!!!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/23/1_25_01_18_11_21_05_231732010.jpeg)

Does this reel have a stock drag and gear sleeve? 

Quote from: alantani on January 25, 2018, 06:49:19 PM
yeah, from juan lezama!  400 yards of 80 pound p-line teflon coated solid braid and a 33 yard topshot of 50 pound berkely big game, drags set to 15 pounds.  the braid was loaded up under 10 pounds of pressure on the line winder.  gorgeous reel!!!!!!!

(http://alantani.com/gallery/23/1_25_01_18_11_21_05_231732010.jpeg)

thats the look Im going after, thanks Boss for the pic and info.

Right now mine is the same but a lefty.

Quote from: steelfish on January 06, 2018, 08:00:58 AM
Wow.. thats a lot of Line

Your line must be very thin, if Im not mistaken I could only put 450 yds of 80 # braid to my Baja Special

Alex, when I first had my US113 spooled up it was very close to 600 yards Toro Tamer 80  braid. Far more than I'll ever need on a reel. So I put 1/2 of it on my Baja This braid is under rated regarding its strength so it's not ultra thin... Jeff

Quote from: Rivverrat on January 25, 2018, 08:43:47 PM

Quote from: steelfish on January 06, 2018, 08:00:58 AM
Wow.. thats a lot of Line

Your line must be very thin, if Im not mistaken I could only put 450 yds of 80 # braid to my Baja Special

Alex, when I first had my US113 spooled up it was very close to 600 yards Toro Tamer 80  braid. Far more than I'll ever need on a reel. So I put 1/2 of it on my Baja This braid is under rated regarding its strength so it's not ultra thin... Jeff

thanks Jeff, I think I must find a way to use more drag when installing the line for 1st time on a reel, my current way is to install it on bigger reel and then use some drag there while transfering the line to the reel.
toro tamer is not a thin line, its actually thicker than most but also breaks above the line test on the box.


[start off-topic]
@ Lee, amigo, I didnt knew you were lefty on reels.
I just bought a Komodo 364 lefty, it was on a terrific price from a friend so I took it, I mostly use spinner on left hand so, I will train my brain (right hemisphery) to crank this low profile with my left hand too.
awesome little reel. [ ends off-topic]

I fish LH for steelhead and salmon, RH for most other things,  I broke my left hand, fished with it and it never healed right, since then I have been playing with LH reels.  I have a 349H, a 501 and this reel in LH.  The Komodo looks like a powerful reel.

Just had my T4N1 strung up at my local shop. 315 yards of 80lb seaguar threadlock. I think I got room for a topshot...

Here is mine out for a fish the other day. It performed flawlessly and had a very fast retrieve. Stock gears, double dogged, ss 10 sleeve, maxed out lever, 80 lb solid. Caught two big yelloweye and a nice petrale sole unfortunately I did not get to break it in with a halibut but my  buddies caught a 70 and 20 lb halibut. I will take it to cedros this sept.

Cheers:

todd

Me want one :P

looking good Todd,
mine its ready to fish but havent had the chance to go fishing, north winds havent gave us any chance

So bummed I missed out on the T4N1. Need to check in on this site more often.

There's a good chance that you will have another shot at the T4N1 Trevor.  I plan to fire up another 30 kits as soon as I sell the 50 T60XN extra narrow kits for the 114H, which should be ready in a few weeks.

"  I broke my left hand, fished with it and it never healed right, since then I have been playing with LH reels."      I can totally relate to that statement Keta, you are a truly devoted fisherman !!   I just wish I was 2000 miles closer so I could fish with you !!      Carl

Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on March 28, 2018, 05:42:45 AM
There's a good chance that you will have another shot at the T4N1 Trevor.  I plan to fire up another 30 kits as soon as I sell the 50 T60XN extra narrow kits for the 114H, which should be ready in a few weeks.

Awesome!

I'm looking forward to it. These narrow reels are much nicer to fish.

Quote from: steelfish on March 27, 2018, 07:42:26 PM
looking good Todd,
mine its ready to fish but havent had the chance to go fishing, north winds havent gave us any chance

finally have the time to fish my 113hxn tani kit, check this out


http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=25126.msg282783#msg282783

it feels really nice, I still need to put many of the current upgrades but other than new 5/0 tani handle, delrin under gear washers, its all stock
I plan to put the Keta octagon insert on it along with some Keta SS dogs and my next upgrade will be the SS sleeve

Ive more reels than any 5 people need. But I do need one of these. Will there be another run ? ... Jeff

Quote from: Rivverrat on April 23, 2018, 03:25:03 AM
Ive more reels than any 5 people need. But I do need one of these. Will there be another run ? ... Jeff

For your needs and available current upgrades  you better get two when available

Quote from: steelfish on April 23, 2018, 04:38:07 AM

Quote from: Rivverrat on April 23, 2018, 03:25:03 AM
Ive more reels than any 5 people need. But I do need one of these. Will there be another run ? ... Jeff

For your needs and available current upgrades  you better get two when available

I think your right. Even with a gear ratio that might be less tgan perfect i can always make use of a bullet proof reel like this... Jeff

Hi Randy, I Finally got to fish the reel over past few days (Spring is over a month late this year)it is Awesome ! Great drop reel holds plenty of 50lb braid & topshot ,Line  lays perfect in the middle,No level wind thumb needed,I want another two if you ever have more made.

Quote from: surfcaster on April 26, 2018, 01:14:38 AM
Hi Randy, I Finally got to fish the reel over past few days (Spring is over a month late this year)it is Awesome ! Great drop reel holds plenty of 50lb braid & topshot ,Line  lays perfect in the middle,No level wind thumb needed,I want another two if you ever have more made.

Thanks for letting me know Richie.  Nothing makes my day like a happy customer!

I am hoping to make another run of the T4N1 kits in July.  If that works for you, what colors would you like?

Thanks again,

Randy

Orange or gunmetal grey for me.
-g

Quote from: Gman_WC on April 26, 2018, 04:38:17 AM
Orange or gunmetal grey for me.
-g

Gary, the kits will be available in any of Tiburon's standard colors: Electric Blue, Cobalt Blue, purple, red, silver, black and dark green.  The frame and spool can be different colors.  Will any of those work for you?  I don't think that I will be able to do any custom colors.

Thanks,

Randy

Hi Randy 1 Red and one silver please without graphics please.Thank you

Randy, I'm down for two.
One Blk (spool=Blk)
One E. Blue (spool=Red)

??? Graphics  ??? Are you speaking of the Tiburon logo or the "t4N1" ?

Thanks

-gary

Quote from: surfcaster on April 26, 2018, 09:57:34 PM
Hi Randy 1 Red and one silver please without graphics please.Thank you

Thank you Richie!

Quote from: Gman_WC on April 27, 2018, 06:41:41 PM
Randy, I'm down for two.
One Blk (spool=Blk)
One E. Blue (spool=Red)

??? Graphics  ??? Are you speaking of the Tiburon logo or the "t4N1" ?

Thanks

-gary

Thank you Gary!  The graphics will be the same as the original run, with the Tiburon logo on one side and T4N1 on the other.  I can also have them made by special request with no graphics.

Randy

Graphics for me please.
What's the skinny on the Tiburon star's, are they of good quality or have a better feel than the stock Penn?

-gary

this is my 15yo daugther giving a good use of the 113xh t4n1 .. from last year

The young lady handled that reel like a pro.
The apple doesn't go far from the tree... good job!👍

Alex, that's wonderful that your daughter wants to fish with you!  You are a lucky man!  You must have done a great job raising her.  

Nice!