Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn => Topic started by: Shark Hunter on November 10, 2016, 05:15:23 AM

Title: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 10, 2016, 05:15:23 AM
Nice Haul today. 704, 720 and 710z with box and paperwork.
The 720 has a tweaked bail. No biggie.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: rippin_lips on November 10, 2016, 01:16:14 PM
Wow, you must have quite the collection of penn reels.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: thorhammer on November 10, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
I've been trying to get new pics out him for a year for "Show your collections" thread....I think he's picked up pace in that year....
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 10, 2016, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: rippin_lips on November 10, 2016, 01:16:14 PM
Wow, you must have quite the collection of penn reels.
I have a few.
Patience John. I will make good on it.
I need to do this when the wife is gone. Its going to take up some room. ;)
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: mo65 on November 10, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
   Nice haul indeed! I see you've been filling out your Spinfisher collection Daron. I need to step up my game there...I only have one spinfisher, but it's a mint 712z. I really like the bronze colored 720z, gotta get me one of those.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 13, 2016, 03:50:18 AM
New 722 in Box with Manual, Lube and paperwork.
I have collected all the Z's in a matter of two weeks.
No South Paws.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Alto Mare on November 13, 2016, 12:31:23 PM
Very nice Daron, I'm still looking for the 722Z in black. There was a new one for sale from a good seller, but had a couple of spots so I let it go.
South Paws will give you a harder time, but you should be able to find some, not sure if you'll find them new though, I got lucky.

Oh, I almost forgot the 707Z. That one might be just a dream, not ready to dish out 1 or 2 K for one :-\
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 13, 2016, 05:55:02 PM
This is that reel Sal. Fisher Man had it.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Alto Mare on November 13, 2016, 11:02:34 PM
I'm glad that reel is among us, it was starting to bother me for not getting it. Fisher man is a great guy, if you were looking for lefties, check with him.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 13, 2016, 11:22:30 PM
If you still need that 716Z handle. I have one with your name on it.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Alto Mare on November 13, 2016, 11:42:38 PM
Thanks Daron, I'm good on the handle. Fred was ready to ship one out at the same time he sent you one, but I told him not to. I was able to put one together from the penn parts I got not long ago.
Thanks to both of you again.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 15, 2016, 05:56:58 AM
I picked up another 704z that looked like it needed some TLC. The seller said it was hard to crank.
For $40 bucks, I'll give it a shot. I knew it was a little rough, but the hard to crank term was an understatement.
I thought it was just all gummed up. Not the case. It must be the pinion bearing.
I can see myself getting schooled here. Bail is a mess. It snaps quick, but the bumper is toast and the bail screws are shot.
The way they are chewed up, it looks like they used a butter knife.  >:(
It looks like an attempted service, but no Cigar.
The bail arm is also rubbing the rotor.
Hopefully I can get off with a new pinion bearing, bumper and bail screws.
I want to keep it all original, except for one of Bryan's drag kits.
I can't sleep without opening this up.
Come to find out, the bearing is fine. There was some rust on the Main Gear shaft rubbing the case bushing. ::)
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 17, 2016, 05:59:38 AM
Got the pinion gear out last night. That was no easy task. It is in great shape.
Waiting on new bail screws and a bumper.
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: mo65 on November 17, 2016, 06:04:52 AM
   Great job gettin' in there and making those reels right Daron. I need to sharpen my spinning reel skills. One of these days I'll launch in on one...prolly end up with another obsession...HA! 8)
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: oc1 on November 17, 2016, 09:03:45 AM
The 720z and 722z are oddballs of the series.  The model numbers would imply they are the smallest of the series but both are larger than the 716z. The 720z and 722z also have a different body shape than the other Z's but same style as the original 720 and 722 (original greenies, but blue and teal color).

The greenies have been showing up regularly of late.  That's another interesting group to collect but the numbering is really confusing.  To make matters worse, the numbers were on the medallions and many of the medallions have fallen off now.  The oddball in the greenie series is probably the 710 with the plastic spool.  In my youth I scrimped and cut grass to buy a new 700 with non-collapsible handle (rare now) and a new 710 (much more common now but with the flawed plastic spool).  Naturally, I sold the 700 for a pittance within a few months but still have the 710 almost fifty years later.

-steve
Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on November 20, 2016, 01:19:04 AM
I saved this reel just in time as Rigor mortis was setting in.
The pinion bearing cover screws were a challenge, but the real problem was the bail screws.
They were chewed up because they were frozen to the rotor.
I couldn't budge them.
I know you can hit a frozen screw with small taps to get it moving.
I tried a chisel and a hammer to get them turning after some reel x. No dice.
I put the whole assembly in the freezer for about 20 minutes and they finally came free.
Unfortunately, The new bail screws I ordered are incorrect, but with the new bumper to line up the bail again, all other parts are survivors.


Title: Re: Z series
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 04, 2016, 04:59:30 AM
All finished.
I got schooled on the bail springs. This beast has one on each side, but you have to pay attention to the way they are wound.
There is a primary and a secondary.
This bail means business as it snaps,
A new bumper and used screws are all this reel needed. Smooth as Butter now.
I added one of Bryan's drag kits and a new drag knob.