Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: steelfish on March 20, 2019, 08:18:49 PM

Title: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: steelfish on March 20, 2019, 08:18:49 PM
a good friend gave me this old rod, he told me he has it since the 50's (1950), the had it on the basement since many years ago piled with tons of stuff, he stopped using it a long time ago when the reel seat falled apart.
pretty sure there were no termites or extreme humidity on the place because the wood is in really good shape, the guides show some bad corrosion but not that bad.
but I dont know which kind of reel seat this rod needs in order to be ready to fish again.

any opinions ?
any body recognize the model?



Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: oc1 on March 20, 2019, 08:35:34 PM
That would be a very long reel seat.  Are you sure the two pieces were originally from the same rod?
-steve
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: thorhammer on March 20, 2019, 08:51:43 PM
Alex, you will need a Perfection or Struble chrome seat. those two pieces do look a bit long- if I was gonna put them together I would shorten both equally to meet in the middle within the seat. they are chrome over brass, so should be strong enough to act as a ferrule for that size rod without drilling holes for a stent.
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 20, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
 :)   More then likely the butt was glued in the reel seat and the fore grip  had a reel seat ferrule .
  Measure the diameter `s  and lengths   
  You can also just glue in to the reel seat like i did on this one .    I did not have the rite ferrule for this seat.
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: day0ne on March 20, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
That's a 2 piece rod and you need a reel seat with a ferrule. Lots of them on ebay. Look for Lakeland reel seats or do like I did an find a cheap aluminum butt. I wouldn't trust a rod with both ends glued to the reel seat. That can be a major stress point. BTW, I'm currently rebuilding 2 rods just like that. If you don't mind the color, these should work:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LAKELAND-3166M-2-PIECE-REELSEAT-WITH-MACHINED-HOODS-LOCKING-FERRULE-2-NUTS/153394703436?hash=item23b7096c4c:g:sGYAAOSwS0JcdFb~
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: steelfish on March 20, 2019, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: day0ne on March 20, 2019, 09:38:12 PM
That's a 2 piece rod and you need a reel seat with a ferrule. Lots of them on ebay. Look for Lakeland reel seats or do like I did an find a cheap aluminum butt. I wouldn't trust a rod with both ends glued to the reel seat. That can be a major stress point. BTW, I'm currently rebuilding 2 rods just like that. If you don't mind the color, these should work:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LAKELAND-3166M-2-PIECE-REELSEAT-WITH-MACHINED-HOODS-LOCKING-FERRULE-2-NUTS/153394703436?hash=item23b7096c4c:g:sGYAAOSwS0JcdFb~

this seems to be the one I need, not sure how it would look the vintage rod with a modern alloy realseat  ;D
I still need to do some measures before buying something.

I had the idea that it's a reelseat with a "ferrule kind of", cuz I have another old rod (no, Im not a collector), this is a true temper rod "ambassadeur" model and seems to have the same type of rear and foregrip made outta solid wood and the reelseat is ferrule to make it 2-pc rod, so pretty sure this "unknown" brand rod (from the 1st post) should have the same kind of reelseat.

Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 20, 2019, 11:55:44 PM
     It looks like a Montague stick, late model fiberglass trolling pole . Need more pictures .
 What do you think the length is  6 foot -6-6  
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: steelfish on March 21, 2019, 01:06:57 AM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on March 20, 2019, 11:55:44 PM
    It looks like a Montague stick, late mode fiberglass trolling pole . Need more pictures .
 What do you think the length is  6 foot -6-6  

thanks buddy Joe,
seems that this is a Montague rod and also looks like I have a rod with some history, so I better try to find a chrome reelseat for it

the sticker is 80% gone but the remainings are enough to match the logo silohuete figure and the colors, plus the E of montague in the upper section of the sticker, also the wrap colors and style is identical to some other Montague rods found on the web online.


1st two pics are taken from the web
then the rest are from my rod

little history of that brand in this link   https://www.montaguerodandreel.com/
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: steelfish on March 21, 2019, 01:10:15 AM
this is a guide from my rod
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 21, 2019, 02:56:21 AM
   I don`t think this is the rite tip top for this pole .     That tip is usually on bamboo  pole with back to back guides .
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: day0ne on March 21, 2019, 05:45:50 AM
Get this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LAKELAND-3164-ANODIZED-ALUMINUM-AND-CHROME-REEL-SEAT-WITH-2-NUTS/151895545580?epid=1948985892&hash=item235dae16ec:g:~38AAOSwUuFWtnYL

and this:

https://www.therodroom.com/shop/pc/FERRULES-FOR-LAKELAND-SEATS-p1223.htm

and you are golden. The ferrule is friction fit, like the original.
Title: Re: need an OLD reelseat to restore/repair this old rod
Post by: sundancer on March 21, 2019, 12:47:52 PM
I have a few of those Rods.  Never could figure out why they were built that way..

SF

I have a few Seats that hanging around.. 

(https://i.imgur.com/4SAxByl.jpg)

If you can get a measurement on what you need, I can send one if it is reasonably close.. You would still need the Blank-end Ferrule

Steve