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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => General Spinning Reel Questions => Topic started by: The Fishing Hobby on April 27, 2017, 03:04:24 PM

Title: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on April 27, 2017, 03:04:24 PM
Haven't finished this series yet.  This is just the disassembly of the reel. Maybe this will be of some use to someone in the future. As I upload the other two parts, I will post that info as well.

https://youtu.be/7q82v-epmCA
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 13, 2017, 12:02:16 AM
Part two is uploaded now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8jsY2HoEfg
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: handi2 on May 13, 2017, 12:20:01 AM
Those were great reels back in the day. I had a huge collection of them. Many of them came with a factory manual bail.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 13, 2017, 03:26:49 AM
Quote from: handi2 on May 13, 2017, 12:20:01 AM
Those were great reels back in the day. I had a huge collection of them. Many of them came with a factory manual bail.
Manual pickup or a bail that could be closed manually? If it could be closed manually, I would love to see the way it works! I always close my bail manually if possible but on this one you can't. I guess technically you can pull the lever and close it but that is a pain. The bail wire isn't permanently attached and can be removed easily so switching it to a PUM couldn't be any easier. This one (after cleaning and relubricated) is smooth as silk! I made some Carbontex drag washers for it, removed the paint and polished it. It is a real beauty!
I like the handle style of this one better than 2 other variations I have seen. It is actually fairly light even with the steel internal parts. It weighs just over 8oz. I also balanced the rotor for it. It has been in a lot of my recent videos, impressive little reels and just as nice to look at as well.
I was surprised to find over 60 individual parts in the reel but for just a normal servicing they are easy to break down for relube.
Any info you could give me on variations would be greatly appreciated. Surprisingly, they aren't very sought after so they can be had for pretty good prices. I paid less than $20 for this with shipping! I would say that is a bargain. I love the size of these but I wish the had an aluminum spool. I might try to turn one for it on the lathe sometime down the road.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 13, 2017, 03:31:22 AM
Here is what it looks like now:
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: handi2 on May 13, 2017, 04:07:57 PM
They were factory PUM. I dont have the pictures anymore. Mostly the larger Seawonder reels.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 13, 2017, 04:22:44 PM
I saw one of those Seawonder 2090's at a local flea market the other day. That thing is a beast! I think my 2052 would fit in the rotor cup!
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: mo65 on December 06, 2017, 03:25:49 PM
   I figured this thread would be a great place to post this 2052 schematic. 8)


P.S.  Click on photo for zoom.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on December 06, 2017, 06:55:18 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: handi2 on December 07, 2017, 01:08:22 AM
Even though I sold all the reels I should have a full page color add from Shakespeare. I will find it and posts here.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on December 07, 2017, 01:19:54 AM
Quote from: handi2 on December 07, 2017, 01:08:22 AM
Even though I sold all the reels I should have a full page color add from Shakespeare. I will find it and posts here.
That would be great. I could print it and frame it!
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: happyhooker on December 07, 2017, 02:52:59 AM
Lots of good info.  I watched Pts. 1 & 2 of the video.  Some thoughts: 1) Appreciated your showing the disassembly of the ball bearing; 2) That looks like a substantial bail spring compared to some I have seen; 3) The handle on yours is different from that in mo65's schematic; I'm thinking you have the earlier handle and the schematic shows the later one (or there could be more than 2 types?)

(Thanks to mo65 for the schematic.  Some of those earlier Shaky schematics are a bit of work to track down.)

Looks like a good reel.  I'm impressed.  Will undoubtedly increase my efforts to pick one up & maybe a 2062 as well.  In fact, I like the whole "Royal Maroon" series, as maybe you've guessed from my comments to some of the other Shakespeare posts about these reels.

Frank

Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on December 07, 2017, 03:44:14 AM
Quote from: happyhooker on December 07, 2017, 02:52:59 AM
Lots of good info.  I watched Pts. 1 & 2 of the video.  Some thoughts: 1) Appreciated your showing the disassembly of the ball bearing; 2) That looks like a substantial bail spring compared to some I have seen; 3) The handle on yours is different from that in mo65's schematic; I'm thinking you have the earlier handle and the schematic shows the later one (or there could be more than 2 types?)

(Thanks to mo65 for the schematic.  Some of those earlier Shaky schematics are a bit of work to track down.)

Looks like a good reel.  I'm impressed.  Will undoubtedly increase my efforts to pick one up & maybe a 2062 as well.  In fact, I like the whole "Royal Maroon" series, as maybe you've guessed from my comments to some of the other Shakespeare posts about these reels.

Frank


They are definitely worth having. Silky smooth gears and we'll made. I own both of them. I think I do have the earlier handle style. I have seen 3 different types. I like the style on mine better for looks but they all should work fine.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: happyhooker on December 07, 2017, 04:49:16 AM
Yeah, I like the earlier handle too.  Black on the 2052 and chrome on the 2062?  Has more of a vintage look.

I was looking at some info Midway Tommy posted on some other Shakespeares a few days ago, and if I understood it right, handle #2 was a 2-piece folding one and #3 was 1-piece with a plastic dust cover. Guessing the posted schematic is showing #3.

Frank
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 07, 2017, 06:09:11 AM
Shakespeare only had two different style handles on the 2052 & 2062 reels. The first versions on both had the two piece handle. The 2062 crank arm was aluminum color & 2052 was black. The later version of both had the one piece black crank handle.   
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: happyhooker on December 07, 2017, 10:16:20 PM
Gotcha, Tommy.  The Fishing Hobby sez he has seen 3 types of handle.  Maybe #3 was a non-authorized replacement handle.

When you say "folding handle", you're talking about one that allows the finger pad to be rotated 180 degrees so space can be saved when packing?  Like the ones on early Mitchell 300s?

Frank
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 08, 2017, 05:57:34 AM
Quote from: happyhooker on December 07, 2017, 10:16:20 PM
Gotcha, Tommy.  The Fishing Hobby sez he has seen 3 types of handle.  Maybe #3 was a non-authorized replacement handle.

When you say "folding handle", you're talking about one that allows the finger pad to be rotated 180 degrees so space can be saved when packing?  Like the ones on early Mitchell 300s?

Frank

Yes, rotating is much more accurate but most people just call them folding like all the rest of the collapsibles.

I have no idea what the 3rd example might be. I would like to see an example, though. It's got my curiosity going.   
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on December 08, 2017, 12:35:37 PM
The 3 types I have seen were the all black rotating handles which are brass, and aluminum rotating handle and a one piece black handle. The 2062 I have owned with the aluminum handle and the one piece (sold the one piece). The 2052 has the brass (it was painted black) handle.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: Grey Ghost on January 27, 2018, 02:33:08 PM
 Great videos, question? Do the letters on the reels just indicate what year? "DC" "EE"  etc.
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: foakes on January 27, 2018, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: Grey Ghost on January 27, 2018, 02:33:08 PM
Great videos, question? Do the letters on the reels just indicate what year? "DC" "EE"  etc.

The code indicates when that reel first started production — not necessarily the year of actual manufacturing.

As an example, a reel may carry a code indicating 1956 — however, every subsequent reel for the next nine years would have the same code.

Here is the chart—

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: Grey Ghost on January 27, 2018, 10:44:07 PM
 Thank you Sir!
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on January 28, 2018, 04:59:22 PM
I missed the question sorry but I didn't have an answer but I'm am also thankful for the chart!!!
Title: Re: Shakespeare 2052 Disassembly With more to come
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 28, 2018, 07:44:48 PM
The big thing to remember, as Fred alluded to, is that the 2 letter code on Shakespeare reels refers to the date the model was first produced, or later, some sort of change was made to that model. As an example, an early 2062 was EF (1965), there was a minor change in production, plastic spool, in 1968, i.e. the EC stamp, and in 1970 they changed again, to the one piece handle, i.e. DA stamp. This holds true through all of the various Shakespeare reel models, beginning in 1931, that have the 2 letter stamping.