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Fishing => Fishing Tips and Techniques => Topic started by: Bill B on October 17, 2014, 01:57:12 AM

Title: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on October 17, 2014, 01:57:12 AM
I'm living here on the Sacramento River, between Miller Park and Garcia's Bend, unfortunately I'm limited to shore casting......how would you fish for King's?   The locals are jigging from drifting boats using the black jig on the top......I was thinking of suspending a jig, 5' below a cork or bobber and letting it drift with the river current, periodically jigging the the set up and letting it settle back to 5'.....maybe pinning a dead anchovy in place of the jig.....there are no tackle restrictions here that I know of...and a friend that's working a Calif DFG research boat says the salmon are stacking up pretty good 10 miles down river......what are your thoughts and suggestions...
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Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bryan Young on October 17, 2014, 03:11:17 AM
I don't know but I may have to drive up there to catch me a salmon or two to smoke. :D
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on October 17, 2014, 03:41:37 AM
I always have room in the trailer...have two extra beds...just bring extra liquid libations.....I would even consider drinking zinfandel... ;D
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: whalebreath on October 17, 2014, 04:38:24 AM
That gear is All Wrong for freshwater Salmon.

Remember that as they approach freshwater a Salmon's reproductive organs grow, it's stomach shrinks and they feed less & less once they enter fresh water they never feed again.

They do continue to strike @ things though and for Spring Salmon Green is their preferred colour.

So the idea of drifting something under a float is a good one but a chunk of Green wool-or a combo of Green/Pink, Green/Orange or Green/Chartreuse the size of your index fingernail should do the trick.

Look @ all the various Salmon flies that fly fishermen use what you're doing is a much simplified version of that.

Click Here (https://www.google.ca/search?q=salmon+ties&biw=1024&bih=506&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=DpxAVJvFK8GIiwKt3YCYBA&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#tbm=isch&q=drift+fishing+salmon+) to see some of the seemingly endless options all more or less the same.

IME the important part is to keep the weight off the bottom just drifting slowly along.
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Robert Janssen on October 17, 2014, 05:55:34 AM
Quote from: whalebreath on October 17, 2014, 04:38:24 AM
IME the important part is to keep the weight off the bottom just drifting slowly along.

Consider a Bombarda float and rig for that. Decent weight (castability) and floats or sinks or inbetweens very nicely with the current. Also lets you like you said, poke the lure a bit.

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Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on October 17, 2014, 05:58:15 AM
Cool brother....it has been my understanding that when salmon enter frsh water...they really dumb it down....and green cloth is about as "dumbed down" as you can get.....thx
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Keta on October 17, 2014, 01:58:09 PM
It looks like they are "snagging" not fishing with the flutter jigs.   Try plunking using Spin-n-Glows or Quickfish.

Here's a good link.
http://www.steelheaduniversity.com/columbia.html (http://www.steelheaduniversity.com/columbia.html)

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Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on October 18, 2014, 01:35:09 AM
thanks guys...will let you know how it goes..... ;D
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on October 20, 2014, 03:18:55 AM
All right after a weekend of throwing everything and the kitchen sink,,,,,success....a 34" king on a 4" green, yellow and white iron...my biggest fish to date....10 mins to land on 15lb test and a Shimano Spinner...woohoo good times...thanks dad for teaching me to fish....
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(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/Fubarciw/Fish/100_7428.jpg)
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Alto Mare on October 20, 2014, 03:32:54 AM
Bill, that's a nice fish! Way to go my friend.
Sal
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on October 20, 2014, 03:51:36 AM
Thank you to everyone here at Alan Tani....everytime I get discouraged and want to throw the tackle box into the water....there's always a helping hand here...just finished a Salmon Cajun Crusted filet with a brown rice side....WooHoo!!!.....next question...what do i do with 2 lbs of salmon roe???  Ohhh...BTW the iron was the second from the right in the original picture...
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Dominick on October 20, 2014, 04:04:38 AM
Tarfu, what days of the week do you get out?  Dominick
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on October 20, 2014, 04:28:44 AM
Dom...I live 30' from the Sacramento River...I get out nearly every day...this weekend is special because the water cooled down enough for the fish to slow their run up the river...mine included...I saw 10 fish landed in the 1/4 mile stretch I can see from my trailer....if you are in the neighborhood I have plenty of room in the trailer for guests and maybe a couple bottles of zin.... ;D
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Keta on October 20, 2014, 02:42:58 PM
Quote from: TARFU on October 20, 2014, 03:51:36 AM
next question...what do i do with 2 lbs of salmon roe??? 

Salt and freeze it and use it for crab bait.  Up here it gets used for salmon and steelhead bait.
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: wallacewt on October 20, 2014, 11:53:27 PM
thats a classic tarfu
you asked for advice,got it,then did what dad told you 30years ago :D :D :D
thats fishin alright haha!
cheers
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Dominick on October 21, 2014, 03:39:08 AM
Tarfu:  Here is a link to Salmon Caviar.  I've done it.  It is very good.  Dominick

http://www.homebrewchef.com/curingsalmonroe.html
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Shark Hunter on October 21, 2014, 05:05:01 AM
Good Job Bill! That's a nice one! ;D
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: smnaguwa on October 23, 2014, 02:46:48 PM
Hi, Check the FishSniffer to see what's working. They mention Mepps Flying C spinners. Also check the Fish and Game website - there are regs specifying single hooks on jigs/spoons. Nice fish!
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bryan Young on October 23, 2014, 04:05:49 PM
Quote from: TARFU on October 17, 2014, 03:41:37 AM
I always have room in the trailer...have two extra beds...just bring extra liquid libations.....I would even consider drinking zinfandel... ;D
Thanks. Been so busy...but I really got to try this out.  My friends have talked about this many times.  We are on mandatory OT until the end of the year, plus my metal drag washers arrived, and the carbon fiber drag washers will arrive soon, then it will be kitting at it's finest.
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: theswimmer on October 31, 2014, 08:25:23 PM
Here is my favorite ,

salted & smoked salmon roe



roe.jpg

Yield: 50+ Servings

Prep: 20-30 mins
Cook: 30-45 mins
Ready In: 50 mins

Salted and smoked roe is delicious, nutrient dense ingredient that can be added to many dishes.

Ingredients
•1/4 cup unrefined sea salt
•3 lbs wild-caught salmon roe in their skeins

Instructions
1.Rinse the skeins of roe in a gentle stream of filtered water . Pat them dry and dredge them lightly in unrefined sea salt. Set them in a pan to cure for about twenty to thirty minutes while you prepare the wood for smoking.

2.Once the smoker is preheated, drain off any excess liquid from the skeins of roe and brush off any residual salt. Transfer the skeins to the smoker. Smoke for thirty to forty-five minutes. Remove from smoker and refrigerate. Serve this smoked roe as a seasoning or accompaniment to eggs, greens or other foods. If the texture of the skein's membrane doesn't suit you, you may slit the skein and scoop out the roe with a spoon.
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: gstours on November 06, 2014, 05:47:57 AM
If its not too late use the eggs for bait like Lee showed with a spin n glo bobber or just drift them with a float, eggs are real killer for salmon,  check on bait restrictions, but they use them almost exclusivly in oreand wash coastal streams near tidiwater.   the bait shops will know and show you some rigs.  just a big gob of eggs, with a small sinker to get it down and a large bobber,  some times people use a slip bobber with a stop on the line to help adjust the depth and make casting easier.   ask the bait shops they,ll show you. for nice big salmon.
Title: Re: I Need a Salmon For Dummies primer
Post by: Bill B on December 09, 2014, 02:42:25 AM
OK.....now the rain has started in NorCal...the river is up, really muddy, and TREES!!!! floating by......should I give up for the season, or continue throwing jigs at 'em.....if so what colors for the Mocha Latte colored water?   

"It might not be productive, but it sure is gonna be interesting" says an old mentor of mine....  ;D