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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano => Topic started by: alantani on March 24, 2009, 07:42:06 AM

Title: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: alantani on March 24, 2009, 07:42:06 AM
here is a very impressive piece of work from ichiban on the 360 tuna board, reprinted with permission. there is a washer that is out place and it generated a great deal of discussion.  check out the original link http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f72/shimano-stella-8000fa-2863/

Quote from: ichibahnI know most of you guys own the Shimano Stella.

I'm not that good as Master Reel Alantani, but I try my best.

Time for taking apart, cleaning, and assembled is about 2 hour :)
Taking a pictures and editing is killing me, almost 2 days :mad: 

To Master Alantani: Please, correct me if I make some mistake.

I know is to much pictures (87 pictures) :D
Hey, almost 130 parts for one reel :eek:

Here's the break down of Stella 8000FA

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Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: Killerbug on June 04, 2012, 12:17:52 PM
Great stuff!, THANX  ;D
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: InVision on March 30, 2016, 10:03:23 PM
Thank you, this was very helpful.  Getting ready to do the Stella 20000FA.

Some differences but similar.  Did you ever figure out what the worm gear spacer looked like?

I actually ordered some parts because I was not sure what was what.  Never hurts to have spares.

Again, great job I really appreciate the time it took to do it and document it.

M
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: MSKing01 on September 10, 2017, 02:57:02 AM
I was curious if anyone saved these photos for reference? I've been looking all over for reference material on how to disassemble my Stella 8000fa with no luck.

Thanks, Mark
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: alantani on September 10, 2017, 11:58:00 PM
no, another post that was "photobucketed...".
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: swill88 on September 11, 2017, 12:23:06 AM
The 'photobucket imbed' extension fixes the problem (at least for now).

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=2349.msg249460#new

Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: MSKing01 on September 13, 2017, 03:15:45 AM
Yeah, I rememeber the post from the original board and this one. Been trying to find the photos for the walk through. I'll have to try it using the different browsers.
The problem is trying to get that bloody set screw off the main shaft. I have small allen keys but that thing is ridiculous.

Thanks for the replys.
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: alantani on September 13, 2017, 03:21:10 AM
I had to "make" an Allen head bit to fit. It took an hour to file it down.
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: MSKing01 on September 13, 2017, 03:28:12 AM
That was my next step. I will get a couple extras in case I screw up the one I already have.
It's inevitable.
I do have time to kill since I'm still without power after irma. I do have the generator going so hey, I'll get to it.
Bored out of my mind.
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on September 13, 2017, 12:10:30 PM
The smallest generally available allen key is 1.3mm (AFAIK) - as it's Shimano it's probably metric (perhaps that's why you guys have had problems :-\)
I bought a set of Wiha allen key bits to fit their 4mm drive torque screwdrivers sizes 1.3,1.5,2.0,2.5,3,4mm. The tiny keys and screws are too easy to mess up. That's why I use a torque screwdriver and follow the engineering guides for the correct torque.
During my engineering life I found that most engineers tended to under tighten large screws but overtighten the small ones.
Without getting too anal the general guide I use is to take the recommended torque for steel and then halve it for steel/brass into alloy/brass.
For example:
5-40 stainless screw. Recommended torque 7.7 inch lbs (dry - 6.5 lubricated). Stainless (lubricated) into alloy 3.25 inch lbs.

A detailed guide (for those interested) can be found here:
http://www.federalscrewproducts.com/torque-chart.htm
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: exp2000 on September 13, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
I was very lucky to get this set from a work colleague before I left my old job.

I would be completely lost without it. There are close to 60 pieces here and the metric hex bits start at 0.7mm.

Four of the smallest hex bits are reserved for regular use on those tiny worm screws found on Shimano spool supports.

https://www.amazon.com/ProsKit-SD-9808N-Precision-Screwdriver-Driver/dp/B01H6GYLGY (https://www.amazon.com/ProsKit-SD-9808N-Precision-Screwdriver-Driver/dp/B01H6GYLGY)

Set Contains:
1 Driver handle, 1 Magnetic bit holder
7 Slotted, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4 mm
4 Phillips, #000, #00, #0, #1
2 Pozi, #0, #1
7 Metric Hex, 0.7, 0.9, 1.3, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 4mm
7 Imperial Hex, 0.028", 0.035", 0.05", 1/16", 5/64", 3/32"
7 Ball Hex, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 1/16", 5/64", 3/32"
3 Hex sockets, 2, 2.3, 2.5mm
9 Torx, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15
8 Security Torx, 5H, 6H, 7H, 8H, 9H, 10H, 15H, 20H
1 Triwing TR1
1 Triangle 2mm
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Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: ReelClean on September 14, 2017, 05:50:15 AM
The small Shimano set screws are .89mm hex or something similar,  I have a WIHA set, the .9mm in that fits fine IIRC.
BTW if it refuses to move hit it with heat eg soldering iron before you go neanderthal on it and strip it out.
cheers
Steve
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: MSKing01 on September 16, 2017, 02:58:18 PM
 It all worked out better than I thought. I just rotated that tiny allen key (metric 1.5) until it settled on a flat and counted the strokes per side on a 3000 grit whetstone soaked in water. I rotated it and test fit it until it, well, fit.
Took a little time because I went slow and didn't want to have to do it all over again. Got it on the first try and left well enough alone. It didn't take too much to get the set screw loose an I spent the evening taking the reel apart and cleaning/re-lubing it. And yes, there are a lot of small parts to lose. Luckily I have a large white  counter top on the work bench and keep the door locked so none can walk off.
I swear, about an hour after I completed that, the damn power was restored to the house. I think it would have been a much nicer experience if I didn't have to listen to the drone of my generator and if there were maybe 100 less parts in it.
All in all it was a good learning experience and I have no problem with having to take it apart when the need arises.
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: alantani on September 16, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
and this is why i don't work on shimano spinners!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: MSKing01 on September 16, 2017, 05:37:43 PM
I hear you. My worse experience was 20 something years ago taking apart a baitrunner 4500 AND drinking beer.
Never again.
I'm older and much more patient now. My eyes are not what they use to be but that's what my glasses are for 🤓.

Have a good one all.
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: exp2000 on September 16, 2017, 05:53:45 PM
Quote from: MSKing01 on September 16, 2017, 05:37:43 PM
I hear you.
My worse experience was 20 something years ago taking apart a baitrunner 4500 AND drinking beer.
Never again.

LMAO :))))))
~
Title: Re: shimano stella 8000fa by ichiban
Post by: daker on April 16, 2019, 02:03:03 AM
Greetings from Caracas, Venezuela friends, I have a reel Shimano stella 8000 fa, and I lost the handle !! Could someone help me to handle that reel shimano I can adapt to that reel ?, to search and buy it, thank you very much for the help

I have seen several handles by ebay from other similar Shimano reel 8000, but I do not know which internal thread can serve this reel. thanks