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General Maintenance Tips => Tools and Lubricants => Topic started by: Bulldawg on March 29, 2009, 09:03:36 PM

Title: Drag Grease
Post by: Bulldawg on March 29, 2009, 09:03:36 PM
 

    I recently upgraded my Saltiga 20 and 30T drags to Smoothies.

    I used shimano drag grease. Is the cals grease better and why.

   
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: alantani on March 30, 2009, 12:23:43 AM
i hope you mean carbontex, not the original smoothies. 

cal's grease melts at 500 degrees and costs $25 per pound.  shimano grease melts at 300 degrees and costs $50 per pound.  as far as i know, those are the only differences.  alan
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: Bulldawg on March 30, 2009, 12:18:29 PM


Thanks Alan they were carbontex washers.


Where can I obtain Cal's grease, don't really need A pound though.


   Thanks





Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: alantani on March 30, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
call dawn.  she's the lady that own's http://smoothdrag.com/price.html
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: George6308 on August 10, 2018, 07:50:49 PM
Mystic has Cal's.
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: RamseyReelRepair on August 11, 2018, 12:22:40 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 30, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
call dawn.  she's the lady that own's http://smoothdrag.com/price.html

Dawn will fix you up good. She has great service! Just got like 4 sets of drags from her.

West
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on August 11, 2018, 09:47:26 AM
I've tried many greases over the years. I still like Cals - but it's very pricey in the UK. I wanted to settle on a single grease to be used on bearings and drags and everything - removing the fear of contamination from one grease to another. Over the last year or so I've been using just this one:

https://www.smithandallan.com/products/industrial-grease/4640-smith-and-allan-teflube-plus-2-grease/

It's the right consistency, stays put but cleans up ok. Drags are nice and smooth. I used to use Mercury Quicksilver 2-4-C with teflon on everything - but the price shot up - also it tended to split quite quickly - dripping oil from the grease gun. This Teflube plus does the same job but is more affordable and available locally and doesn't split so quickly.

For drags a grease containing Teflon (PTFE) is preferable. For general use a marine grade grease is required. At the end of the day something is better than nothing.
I prefer to keep things simple and predictable - 1 grease (Teflube Plus) and 1 oil (TSI321) but that's at the moment - who knows what's in the future ;)
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: Glos on August 14, 2018, 04:48:21 PM
. I wanted to settle on a single grease to be used on bearings and drags and everything - removing the fear of contamination from one grease to another.



and what are the dangers of contaminating one with another ( drag grease with gearing grease )?
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on August 14, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
Some oils and greases don't 'play nicely together' it doesn't seem to be a predictable thing :-\ - chemists feel free to chime in.
For me I like to keep it simple.
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: Glos on August 15, 2018, 06:10:56 AM
yeah, thats my concern now that Ive put lithium based grease filing up the casing of my surf 8k-s
and all be it the drag washers are greased with cals drag grease from okuma factory, non carbon drag
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: alantani on August 15, 2018, 01:48:34 PM
I honestly don't worry about it too much.  If a little gets mixed up,  it's generally no big deal.
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: Glos on August 15, 2018, 01:58:48 PM
o, ok then :)
( I`ve recomended that yamaha marine grease to people here, now just the fact that it is available only online gets in our way for having it in bigger numbers )
and some other news for them, like better bearings and such, all from reading here
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: alantani on August 15, 2018, 02:42:58 PM
I still use cal's grease just for drag washers and yamaha marine grease for everything else.
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: foakes on August 15, 2018, 04:43:04 PM
Same as Alan — I just use Yamalube Marine & Cal's.

For me, on repeat jobs after a couple of years — I appreciate the way Yamaha Marine and Cal's stay in place doing their job — then wash out clean and easy with solvents.

Go through maybe 4 or 5 pounds of Cal's in a year, and about 8 or 9 (14 oz.) tubes of Yamaha Marine that I apply with a grease gun — or a flux brush with the bristles cut short.

Any grease used is likely going to be finer than nothing — the exceptions being greases that sets up hard, or greases that stick to everything — and will not wash out except with an hour of scrubbing and $5 worth of chemicals.

Just keeping it simple, effective, and with good protective performance...

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: RamseyReelRepair on August 15, 2018, 11:20:56 PM
How have yall found that Penn grease cleans out? Pretty hard? Or do solvents work pretty good on it? And just curious Fred, what is black magic?

West
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: MidTNKayakAngler on October 01, 2018, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: RamseyReelRepair on August 15, 2018, 11:20:56 PM
How have yall found that Penn grease cleans out? Pretty hard? Or do solvents work pretty good on it? And just curious Fred, what is black magic?

West

I've found that Penn Grease is harder to wash out, but it stays put well. I'd rather use a grease that's more difficult to wash out than something that slings everywhere. Just finished up 8 Penn Battles.
Title: Re: Drag Grease
Post by: Glos on October 02, 2018, 06:29:46 AM
I emptied the casing from that lithium grease and added penn grese on gears, lithium nlgi 00 ep leaked oil all the time
now I just put that on shafts including worm shaft
I could only buy penn blue grease because there is no yamaha grease here
and it stays put unless one ads oil on the idle gears, which than thins the penn out