So guys, i saw some fishing poles on discount and was wondering how do we rig them up? By fishing poles i really mean poles, no line guides, no reel seat, not fishing rods... Tried googling it up, but it appears that depending on where you live, fishing pole=fishing rod.
Got some 40 pound braid today, and looking for some way to spool it effectively. I have no fancy spooling machine or whatever.
Thanks.
Quote from: Reel Beaker on June 16, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
So guys, i saw some fishing poles on discount and was wondering how do we rig them up? By fishing poles i really mean poles, no line guides, no reel seat, not fishing rods... Tried googling it up, but it appears that depending on where you live, fishing pole=fishing rod.
Got some 40 pound braid today, and looking for some way to spool it effectively. I have no fancy spooling machine or whatever.
Thanks.
I think you're talking about rod blanks, do a search for rod building forum, you'll find information on how to build rods
About the braid, it's important that you keep tension on the braid while spooling, I use a glove, you can also use a towel
Is it for a spinner or a casting reel?
Marc..
do you mean fiberglass telescopic panfish poles w/ just one eye at the tip?
Quote from: philaroman on June 16, 2018, 11:09:13 PM
do you mean fiberglass telescopic panfish poles w/ just one eye at the tip?
Not sure whether there is a eye at the tip but yeah its telescopic, no guides and reel seat. Not sure what a panfish pole looks like either :o
Quote from: Marcq on June 16, 2018, 07:07:09 PM
Quote from: Reel Beaker on June 16, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
So guys, i saw some fishing poles on discount and was wondering how do we rig them up? By fishing poles i really mean poles, no line guides, no reel seat, not fishing rods... Tried googling it up, but it appears that depending on where you live, fishing pole=fishing rod.
Got some 40 pound braid today, and looking for some way to spool it effectively. I have no fancy spooling machine or whatever.
Thanks.
I think you're talking about rod blanks, do a search for rod building forum, you'll find information on how to build rods
About the braid, it's important that you keep tension on the braid while spooling, I use a glove, you can also use a towel
Is it for a spinner or a casting reel?
Marc..
Nope, its not a rod blank. Spooling a spinner
Oh yes back in the day when we all used cane pole for panfish. This video might help.
https://youtu.be/zb6EArJ0eGQ
Dave
PANFISH = any fish small enough to fit in a frying pan
that's the right type of pole, but really cheap, low-quality
almost everything else he does is WRONG!!!
Pole fishing, in the UK, is very common at most freshwater fisheries. Poles of over 60ft are now typically available (thanks to carbon fibre). They are fitted with an elastic line, usually hollow, and a fine tippet for delicate presentation. The elastic protects the fine tippet enabling quite large fish to be tamed - like double figure carp.
They allow for precise positioning of the bait at distance.
http://www.allfishingbuy.com/Fishing-Pole-14-18.htm
that's loaded/elasticated poles -- quite different
the cheap panfish poles are closer in concept to the Whip poles favored by Italians, East-Euros & Asians
By 'loaded' are you referring to seperate sections that push together - In the UK the process is referred to as 'shipping' or 'unshipping' a section. The shorter whip type pole, for margin fishing, can be tied directly to the tip or more commonly fitted with elastic. They can come in telescopic or put together sections - I have used many types of pole. Then again there are telescopic Japanese Tenkara poles for fly fishing (not tried that yet). They are all essentially a fixed line pole.
Quote from: philaroman on June 17, 2018, 11:15:26 PM
PANFISH = any fish small enough to fit in a frying pan
that's the right type of pole, but really cheap, low-quality
almost everything else he does is WRONG!!!
what did he do wrong?
I guess for some simple isn't good enough
We just used a long single piece of bamboo in the old days with a piece of line tied to the end for pan fish. Hard to travel with though due to their length.
The extra line wrapped around the pole was in case the tip broke on a big fish but we didn't bother with that most of the time.
yup, that's the way we used to rig them. When I was growing up in Florida almost everyone used them. For a cane pole you didn't need a license. I remember my dad would rig up 6 and we'd row around the lake until we could smell the crappies then set an anchor and load up on "specks". Some pretty fine eating and fishing was pretty simple. It was just as fun as it gets. Spent many hours on a Sat or Sun morning with my dad. Sure miss those days.
Dave
Sheephead fishermen used say a long calcutta cane pole was better than a rod and reel. The pole will stealthily reach around rocks or pilings and having the line dangle straight down makes it easier to feel the delicate bite.
-steve
Fond memories of childhood days :)
Quote from: Reel Beaker on June 19, 2018, 03:18:47 PM
what did he do wrong?
1) spiraling your line around the pole is for natural wood (usually, bamboo -- as conchydong explained); w/ fiberglass it's unnecessary; w/ abrasive braided lines wrapped around the entire thin-wall blank -- it's downright stupid...
he's NOT "spreading the load" -- he's impeding the action of the blank & damaging it by friction
(if you don't trust the manufacturer's tip-top attachment on a cheap pole, pull it off & reattach w/ good epoxy...
better yet, get/make something pole-specific & whip it on w/ thread, like a rod guide)2) because the line is so short w/ no drag & no back-reeling, you specifically want good, cheap, STRETCHY plain-nylon mono (Berkley Big Game, Trilene XL, etc.) -- NOT, low-stretch lines like Dacron or PE braid
3) loop-to-loop leader connections are best for fishing on the surface, but if your baited hook is going to sink, use a swivel for stronger connection & twist reduction
...when you search, "pole" is too vague -- try "long pole fishing" or "Whip pole fishing" & add a geographical area where it's popular, for most concentrated useful info... e.g., https://www.google.com/search?q=korean+long+pole+fishing&rlz=1C1CHBF_en&oq=korean+long+pole+fishing&aqs=chrome..69i57.25011j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=korean+long+pole+fishing&rlz=1C1CHBF_en&oq=korean+long+pole+fishing&aqs=chrome..69i57.25011j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
These fishing poles by shimano seem pretty good. Definitely pulling fish that are bigger than panfish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9vVtytyoI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9vVtytyoI0)
The only thing that turns me off is the made in indonesia label.
Anyone knows how long these poles are? They dont seem to indicate the length on the pole itself other than a model number.
hey, I thought you wanted to know about CHEAP long poles...
the really good ones (20m / 60'+) cost more than a decent rod+reel
& use premium Japanese CF (graphite) regardless of where made...
Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia -- all good, if you PAY!!!
http://www.allfishingbuy.com/Fishing-Pole.htm (http://www.allfishingbuy.com/Fishing-Pole.htm)
If you decide to build your blank grab a used sewing machine at yard sale. easy to put the but of the blank to the drive by using a glued crutch tip. Makes winding the thread over the guide seats a breeze and you can get really creative with the patterns.
I went back and looked at the pole and apparently i was wrong. There isnt even an eyelet at the top of the pole. It is just a telescopic pole with an elastic band attached at the tip of the pole. What is this? Isnt it kind of filmsy trying to wish with an elastic band?
I asked the store personnel on how to attach lures and line to this pole but apparently they didnt know either.
The video of the guy with the telescoping pole is sort of comical. It is like he is trying to make it difficult for himself. I don't know.... maybe all light tackle fishing is just a matter of making it difficult for yourself and making the fish feel like it is larger than it really is.
Compare the video above to photos and videos of old-school skipjack boats. They use just enough rod length to get the bait out and then hoist the fish on board in one swoop with a stiff pole. If the fish are too big for one person to hoist then they use two people and two rods to hoist one line. It was a job for them and their system evolved to be as efficient as possible.
-steve