Hi all,
I'm working on some Newells ( mostly S229-5). The pinion gear appears to be rusted/frozen to the spool shaft -- so I have one big loose assembly of spool and the metal plate with all the workings. When I pull on the spool I can see the pinion gear is pulling on the yoke. There's NOT enough room to wiggle the spool out. I have doused it with Liquid Wrench and it is soaking... Any suggestions?
I need to get some rubber covers for my pliers so I can grab the pinion gear firmly w/o damaging it and wiggle.
Interestingly, one of these reels was actually in pretty good shape except for this problem!!
Thanks,
Dylan
Update:
Got them off. Took them into work and used a press. One of them broke loose (also it was doused w/ liquid wrench for 24 hrs). The other one was stuck. Rather than bend the yoke, I attacked it w/ a Dremel tool w/ cutting bit...then realized I was sacrificing the pinion gear anyway, and I was able to turn it relative to the spool w/ pliers. back to the press and it came out. Note to self -- don't hammer on the end of the spool shaft. It'll deform (mushroom)!!
I suspect this is a common failure for Newells. 2 out of 3 for me. Hopefully these reels get annual service now and this doesn't happen again.
ouch! the newell pinion gears are $20. a full penn jigmaster main and pinion set is cheaper. you might consider switching over. always hated newell gears anyway. alan
Alan,
I see you had already answered my question here, in "Pitfalls and ...": http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=520.0
I was thinking a Jigmaster gear pinion gear might work. . . from your post, then I can switch over to Jigmaster gears, if I do it as a pair?
What's different w/ the Newell gears?
Thanks!!
Dylan
newll gears have a 5:1 ratio, they are all stainless steel and a gear set costs $50 by the time you're done. i think a 4:1 jigmaster gear set is only $15. alan
Franky,
WORD!
Thanks for sharing. I think most of us here realize that maintaining reels is very important. It's elsewhere that counts. I guess we are starting somewhere with Alan's generosity of this website and free information from all participating members. Now, we just gotta share this information with our clubs and local fisherman.
I've always wanted to go to a fishing tournament/derby to see a reel repair booth set-up. The problem will definitely be parts.
Aloha,
Bryan
a bit part of the problem is stainless against stainless. they rust together pretty quick. :-\
Quote from: BryanYoung on January 13, 2011, 08:24:14 PM
Thanks for sharing. I think most of us here realize that maintaining reels is very important. It's elsewhere that counts. I guess we are starting somewhere with Alan's generosity of this website and free information from all participating members. Now, we just gotta share this information with our clubs and local fisherman.
Aloha,
Bryan
Yes Brian, absolutely correct. Most of us on this site are aware of proper maintanence (thank goodness :))...I just shared my experience to bring awareness to some of those who are starting out with fishing and/or surfing the websites to see what is involved with reel maintenance. Yes, its awesome and fun...but on the other hand there are the nightmare stories that many of us "reel maintainers/reel servicers" encounter. ;D
Speaking of nightmare stories, I believe that many of these shared nightmare stories are the very ones that teach us the most.
Thanks a million to Alan and all the folks on this site for providing all the valuable information and expertise! This site is beyond generous and offers things that most books don't.....real life expertise and support. Wow, at first, I thought newells were the easiest reels to maintain. After trying to tackle this frozen pinion gear on the spool shaft....I was totally humbled :-X and I found a new level of respect for guys like Alan and all the other reel serviceing people. :) Not easy bro.... ;D
Quote from: alantani on January 13, 2011, 09:43:55 PM
a bit part of the problem is stainless against stainless. they rust together pretty quick. :-\
Hi Alan.
I was amazed how stainless against stainless would or could be such a problem. I always thought that having two of the same metals together is okay. However, having two different kinds of metals touching each other would be a problem due to electrolysis. In either case, got to keep the pinion gear and the spool shaft lubed.
um, i just found a box of newell parts........... :-\
Got myself a frozen spool situation on a 229-5 as well. I'm unable to get the right sideplate off, and it seems the bearing cap won't budge either way so I think the bearing is corroded to the shaft. The reel has lots of rust, and the left side spool bearing is toast. How would I be able to free the spool shaft when I can't get any tools or even a view beyond the bridge plate? Where would I spray liquid wrench to be able to free it up? thanks
Dom
Quote from: broadway on April 13, 2011, 07:04:20 PM
Got myself a frozen spool situation on a 229-5 as well. I'm unable to get the right sideplate off, and it seems the bearing cap won't budge either way so I think the bearing is corroded to the shaft. The reel has lots of rust, and the left side spool bearing is toast. How would I be able to free the spool shaft when I can't get any tools or even a view beyond the bridge plate? Where would I spray liquid wrench to be able to free it up? thanks
Dom
Hello Dom,
Oh my! You got one of those huh? :o
Based on my previous shalacking with one of those "frozen pinion to the spool shaft" ventures, I don't know if I'm the right person to offer suggestions :P ::)
Anyway, heres my 2 cents....
First off, we both know that the fiber drags in the gearbox is history! That being said, I would remove the four bridge screws and see if I could lift the bridge plate just a little. I would then use the small straw that comes with the WD-40 can (or you could attach the straw to the Liquid Wrench can) and spray a lot of it in there and just let it sit for a day and repeat again on the second day.
After that, I would try my hand at trying to take off the bearing cap again.
Good luck.
Hey Dom -
I'm with franky on this one. You may have already done all of this, but here goes. Remove everything you can from the outside of the reel: left bearing, ALL screws, handle, eccentric lever, spacing sleeve, etc. Now you may be able to twist the reel apart by holding the left and right sideplates and pulling or tapping gently (or not so gently) with a mallet and a small piece of wood or a chopstick. Give it the franky treatment and squirt some Liquid Wrench, WD-40, or Break Free into any hole. After soaking for a day, try pulling it apart again. Is this one of those 25 reels you told me about? If so, tell the captain to start planning on buying a replacement reel and that you're now charging him by the hour. ;)
If all else fails, get bigger chopsticks. ;D
Rob
If all else fails, get bigger chopsticks. ;D
Rob
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Or do yourself and the Captain a favor and put that reel to rest ;D. By the way, how's that foot coming along?
Regarding the spool and pinion gear, I was working on something, but I cannot remember what. We used to soak it in liquid wrench or WD-40. Then heat it up with a propane torch, and while hot spray more liquid wrench or WD-40, and repeat. Concentrate on heating the pinion gear and cool the shaft with the lubricant. The heat was used to expand the pinion gear metal, and the lubricant was used to cool the shaft (contracting the shaft). Although the expansion and contraction was in microns, it allowed the lubricant to seep between the pinion gear and spool shaft. Repeat this several times. This should loosen up the pinion.
Another option is to put the spool on a lathe and file the pinion gear off.
Thanks for the advice crew... I just took out the bridge screws and shot some PB blaster inside. I'm gonna let it sit tomorrow and start pulling on her then. Rob, you gotta be a master chop sticker by now ;D I think if I've gotta use a torch the Capt. will get the reel back rare ;) Thanks again!
Dom
I think if I've gotta use a torch the Capt. will get the reel back rare ;) Thanks again!
Dom
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I was thinking more well done! ;D
Sal, I should have explained further that he's getting back the reel the way he gave it to me... untouched! Brian is one hell of a brave guy to put a torch to that plastic sideplate area... I ain't there yet ;)
Dom
Quote from: broadway on April 15, 2011, 03:08:28 AM
Sal, I should have explained further that he's getting back the reel the way he gave it to me... untouched! Brian is one hell of a brave guy to put a torch to that plastic sideplate area... I ain't there yet ;)
Dom
Did I mis-read something? I though it was a frozen pinion bearing on a spool...of course I'm thinking of an aluminum spool.
Bryan,
To tell you the truth I don't know what's holding her up... I can't see inside yet. I can only assume (you know what that means) that it' got something to do with the spool bearing cause I can't budge the screw in bearing cap at all. I shot it with liquid wrench sorta solution, and hope to have some results. I yanked and twisted 10 minutes ago with no luck, so I sprayed her down again. I'll let ya know what happens when I yank on her tomorrow. As for putting a flame thrower to it... I probably have a better chance of burning my house down than I do removing the spool off that bearing? pinion? Till tomorrow gents, thanks
Dom
Dom how did you make out? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
Dom: Sal is asking about the reel ;). Not about how you "make out." :o San Mateo Dom
Sorry I didn't respond earlier... I was busy making out ;D
I closed her up yesterday after pulling, twisting, tapping (vigorously), etc... I used 1/4 can of PB blaster... I even tried a little TSI301 in hopes it would lube it up a bit before I gave up. Not budging at all. This really doesn't surprise me cause the reel is rusted all over. RIP Newell 229-5! ...But thanks for your help guys. I rarely ever see actual rust on Penn Senators... corrosion and pitting yes, but not actual brown rust. What's up with that? I've seen that on almost every Newell I've worked on (around 7 of them)... I'm sticking with Penn in case you didn't already know that ;)
Dom
Dom, I'm not surpised. I've seen it before and tried to worn you to put that reel to rest, but I understand, you had to give it a shot. Now try to neutrolize that nasty PB stuff or the only thing you'll be making out with is yourself ;D. You could fry some broccoli di rape with garlic.... that should do it ;)
Quote from: broadway on April 18, 2011, 05:39:48 AM
I closed her up yesterday after pulling, twisting, tapping (vigorously), etc... I used 1/4 can of PB blaster... I even tried a little TSI301 in hopes it would lube it up a bit before I gave up. Not budging at all. RIP Newell 229-5! ...But thanks for your help guys. I rarely ever see actual rust on Penn Senators... corrosion and pitting yes, but not actual brown rust. What's up with that? Dom
:o :o Ho Boy :o :o
Don't worry Dom! I guess that makes the two of us. In looking back at my previous post, I had my first encounter of the "frozen pinion on the spool shaft" episode....and I lost! :'( Dude, this is no small task. I closed her up just like you did and called it a day. As I mentioned before, I knew when to draw the line. ;D
Whats funny is when you read my former post, you can actually FEEL the frustration in my wording. As I read your posting, it brings back horror memories of myself. ;)
Well....at least we both tried. ;D
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 18, 2011, 10:58:51 AM
You could fry some broccoli di rape with garlic.... that should do it ;)
I second this motion. Add some Italian sausage, :-* toss with spaghetti and hot pepper flakes. :-* Accompany it with a good bottle of Zin. ;) Dominick
Sal,
You know that reel is sitting on my balcony cause I'm sick of smelling that crap... gotta be toxic at the very least! Wish I could cook... does it work if you order in? ;D
Franky,
I should have followed your lead. When you were explaining the process I knew it was gonna be a doosy an just not worth it, but had to give it a go. You put a lot more effort than I did, and that's why I quit when I did... it wasn't going anywhere.
Dominick,
I don't wanna come to Cali to fish I wanna come over for dinner. You must be a hell of a chef, and I bet you serve some good wine with the meal! You and Sal should start a recipe section on this site so some of my vixens can make me some nice meals (I'm a lil' spoiled).
Thanks for trying with me crew!
Dom
Quote from: broadway on April 19, 2011, 09:06:26 PM
Sal,
You know that reel is sitting on my balcony cause I'm sick of smelling that crap... gotta be toxic at the very least! Wish I could cook... does it work if you order in? ;D
Balcony??? Is that what they are calling fire escapes now :). We used to call it the lanai. Yes, I'm about the best cook I know, since my mother is gone. Funny thing Dom, my grandmother used to live in the corner building on Houston and Thompson. (northwest corner). I just received her recipe for pizza rustica (Easter Pie). I'm on it this weekend. Dominick
Sal,
You know that reel is sitting on my balcony cause I'm sick of smelling that crap... gotta be toxic at the very least! Wish I could cook... does it work if you order in? ;D
Dom, I know how nasty that stuff is and decided not to use it again. I don't like to use anything that smells even when it's sealed in a Tupperware container. About ordering in, it won't work Dom, I pick my own wild broccoli in the fields around this time of year.... you have a slim chance finding wild broccoli di rape where you're at. :(
Domenicuccio, Pizza rustica is one of my favorite, hey maybe we could open a restaurant and make Dom and Rob our partners, Never mind if I remember correctly, Rob thought that focaccia was part of a reel or something like that ;D ;D ;D
Focaccia?? Isn't that a new reel company outta Italy? ;D ;D
Hey Sal,
Maybe I oughta go to your hous for dinner... Wild broccoli? Hey Dominick, do you remember what they used the term broccoli for in the neighborhood? Well Sal's is WILD! LOL!
Thanks for the laugh
Dom
Hey Dylan -
Your original question was about broccoli di rape and pizza rustica, wasn't it? ;D ;D I vaguely remember something about a 229-5 or maybe I was dreaming (probably about ordering focaccia from Daiwa. ;) ) I miei amici italiani get a bit carried away at times. ::)
Rob
guys, fishing reels! focus ........ ;D
Sorry Alan and crew, sometimes the stew need a little extra seasoning and as usual we get carried away. We'll try to do better from now on. Thanks! Sal ;D
Maybe I can add a little info to this site as far as breaking loose rusted objects. I have a couple International scouts. If anyone on here knows what they are you know they rust and rust bad. After some research I came across this info and believe me there is nothing better for breaking stuck bolts.
Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment. The results are as follows;
Penetrating oil........... Average load
None ...................... 516 pounds
WD-40 .................... 238 pounds
PB Blaster ................ 214 pounds
Liquid Wrench ........... 127 pounds
Kano Kroil ................ 106 pounds
ATF-Acetone mix...........53 pounds
The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50-50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone.
I hear ya, Alan. Just lightening up a depressing topic... putting a reel to sleep :'(
Dom
Ok! Boss.
Tidetime: That is really good information. That ATF and Acetone is a really potent cocktail. I'll give it a try. I'll also use it with caution. Dominick
no problem! dominick, if you have a little left over, can i snitch some?
Quote from: alantani on April 20, 2011, 04:26:34 PM
no problem! dominick, if you have a little left over, can i snitch some?
Sure. We can do shots. ;D
Hello everyone!, long time lurker, first time poster.
I'm having/had the same problem with a S550 series reel. When I got the reel used from a friend (bought new last year, had two light trips on it) it would not go into free spool. I took the reel apart to find the pinion gear stuck fast to the spool shaft. I tried everything to remove the gear from with the spool shaft with out damaging anything, soaked in penetrating oil for a week, carefully heated up with torch, wrapped the gear in layers of electrical tape and tried to force it with pliers. Nothing worked. I finally was at wits ends and I ended up grabbing the biggest pair of pliers, clamping the pinion gear, and put my all into it. It came off, but damaged the pinion gear teeth and spool shaft. UUGGHH!
The bearing was also stuck in the SS bearing retainer cap, soaked for a week, lightly heated, nothing. I ended up getting it red hot with a torch and gave it a WD_40 bath, slid right out! The heat did something to the retainer cap, the threads ended up getting really rough, even with a light sanding it doesn't want to thread in smoothly (didn't force it)
This 550 looks like it left the factory dry, when I pulled it apart there were no traces of any type of lube. My other Newells had a decent coating when I took them apart to service them. I have a new spool, bearings, and drags but I'm having a hard time getting some one from Valley MFG to return my e-mails so I can order the needed parts.
Hello Toehi,
Where are you from and what part are you looking for?
Franky, I'm in Kona, Hawaii and I need a 500 series (I have a S550) 4.6 pinion gear and 500 series (I think 300-500 series are the same) stainless steel bearing cap/retainer. The two small stainless steel washers in the bearing retainer look a little beat but still useable. The reel man gave me some good leads on parts but no luck yet.
Roys fishing has one in stock. Its the pinion gear for the 550 4.6 model. They quoted $18.00 for it. They do not have the stainless adjustable bearing cup. If you want, you might try to call them to see if they will ship out parts. (808)487-7690.
Hope this helps....
Called them up and they they told me to call Brian's. I'll give them a call, hopefully I score there.
Thanks Franky!! Parts on the way from Brians!
Alan,
I am working on a Newell S332-5 can I use the Peen 500 main Gear and Penn 500 Pinion Gear to slow this one down a bit.
Randy
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funny, i can't remember anyone ever asking this before. i think you can, but my resident newell expert, dave mount, just passed away last month.
I just opened my brothers newell and found the unthinkable. Yep, frozen pinion to the spool. On top of that the bearings are frozen too. >:( >:(
Awe bummer. take it easy and slow and hopefully, it will come out. Parts are hard to come by.
yeah, i know. will see. I'll soak the part in PB blaster to see what can be done. thnx Brian.
well first atempt was >:(. Still soaking it and slowly working on it. ::)
Don't waste to much time on that frozen pinion :-\
Aluminum or graphite spool?
Aluminum, you can use a little heat applied to the pinion gear from a propane torch. This will help expand the gear and possibly break some of the rust. Do a few times and spray a lubricant to cool down and work between the gear and the spindle.
graphite
Quote from: Alto Mare on January 12, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
Don't waste to much time on that frozen pinion :-\
I'm going to try. worse comes to worse find a new/used spool and a pinion/ gear set. ??? :'(
no, it HAS to come off without damage. there are no more available. two screwdrivers and 180 degrees from each other, turn then both clockwise and slowly, evenly, lift. it will work. it has to.
;D MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!! ;D ;D :D :) :o :o :o :o
THANKS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT.
That's great news!!!
was it the "two screwdriver" technique or something else?
constantly soaking the bearings and pinion since Tuesday. Yesterday grasp the bearings and pinion with Vise grip and started wiggling and spinning the hell out of it. Nothing got damage in that process. What a relief.
Glad to hear it worked out for you...you're one of the few.
Well done mate.
Hi All, I am new to this website, I got on specifically to find out why my spool was frozen on. The rest of the reel is very clean, all screws came out easy, washers cam apart easy, no corosion or signs of it, However my spool is tuck solid? now what.
Quote from: franky on January 13, 2011, 07:49:59 PM
I just had my first bout with one of these "frozen pinion on the spool shaft" episodes!!! :o I lost! :'(
The customer's reel was a salvaged 546 sideplate screwed onto a 550 body. The reel was so corroded that in the process of removing the sideplate, one of the sideplate screws broke because it was frozen in the reel base.
I then removed the bridge screws and saw the frozen pinion on the tiburon spool. I figured that since the reel was so far gone that if I could separate the pinion, I could either fix the reel or have the guy salvage the nice tiburon aluminum spool. After soaking the pinion with wd-40 for a couple of nights with failed success, I closed everything up and told the person that the reel is too far gone and it would cost more money to chase the problem. If he wanted to tamper with the frozen pinion and risk damaging the tiburon spool shaft, that would be on his ownis. It was bad enough that the reel base needed replacement because of the broken frozen screw....but to pursue further and risk the added cost of a new pinion and a new spool.... :-\
At that point, he knew when to draw the line and concluded that it would be cheaper to simply get another reel. I suggested that he should just disassemble the reel and salvage what ever parts that he could salvage and use it as a "replacement parts reel".
Geezzzz, I cannot imagine that someone would allow their reels to sit without washing the salt off and applying the proper grease and oils. This stuff is nasty!!! Gotta know when to say...this is beyond fixing!
Thankfully the customer was understanding about the lack of maintanence on his behalf.
To the fisherman and fisherwomen....please, if you're going to pack away your reels for a while, or better yet, immediately after each fishing session, please hose down your equipment with fresh water. Also, it is cheaper and a lot less of a headache in the long run if you maintain your equipment every so often or have someone professionally service it for you. ;)
i'm afraid it will be carl newell's legacy. stainless steel will rust. it just takes more time. the bearing will come off, but it will take some work.
Sucess!! Thanks to An email from Alan suggesting the 2 screw driver technique
I just picked up a Newell 636 and 322. Both had the the frozen Pinion to spool problem. They have been soaking for a few days. I was able to free up the 636 with the 2 screw drivers at 180 degrees method. Worked like a charm.
The 322 is turning out to be a little bit more problematic. There is literally no room to insert the screw driver tip between the pinion and and the spool.
My question is: Has anyone ever tried electrolysis bath to remove the rust? Basically you mix a solution of water and Arm and Hammer Washing soda in a bucket. Put a sacrificial Stainless Steel piece of metal (anode) in the bucket. Take a 12v DC power source and attach the positive lead to to sacrificial anode and the negative lead to the Pinion Gear.
In theory the rust should get eaten up and the pinion gear should slide right off. My question being will I damage anything on the spool or the bridgeplate when doing this? I can't get the spool off the bridgeplate so would have to drop everything into the bath together.
I've got no experience with your experiment. However, I do have quite a bit of experience with aluminum and electrolysis. From what I have seen, in salt water, is that the stainless bits stand up pretty well but the aluminum will break down very quickly if you do not keep an eye on things.
I would be curious to know what you learn in this process, but like I said, be careful. It might be worth trying a different approach. Rather than pry the gear off of the shaft, you might try pressing the shaft out of the gear.
http://www.amazon.com/Mascot-Precision-Tools-Wheel-Puller-Stationary/dp/B0006O98HG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1432360725&sr=8-5&keywords=mini+gear+puller
This is not a press, but the same concept.
You could easily improvise a press to do the job as well. I am not real familar with using an electrolisis bath. I think it might work in a short-controlled run. But I suspect aluminum's sacrificial nature would leave and currently corroded or exposed aluminum with a higher surface area somewhat vulnerable. I know we have members with experience using different bath techniques, the first that comes to mind is used by gunsmiths to prep barrels for treatment. There might be something that works wonders, but it would likely be cost/time prohibitive for most. I'd be interested to learn more...
But I think I like the 'Keep it simple stupid' mantra. Though I sdmit I don't always follow it myself. Keep us posted if you do decide to try something difderent, or learn something.
I wound up using the 2 bamboo chopsticks method. 2 pieces of a chopstick on the frozen pinion held tight with vice grips. A firm pull and it slid right off. I was amazed at how easily it came off that way.
Nicely done! I always knew there had to be another vital use for chopsticks! ;D
Mac
You can try sliding a big screwdriver between the lip of the spool and the side plate then apply pressure. This will usually get the pinion shaft to pull out of the pinion gear. Keep in mind you're applying pressure to plastic parts, and there's a limit to how much pressure can be applied before damage can happen to the spool or side plate.
Quote from: alantani on August 20, 2012, 08:04:19 AM
i'm afraid it will be carl newell's legacy. stainless steel will rust. it just takes more time. the bearing will come off, but it will take some work.
Saltwater will destroy *everything*. It is only a matter of time, some things faster or slower.
If you have spent anytime around boats (and I know you have, Alan :) ) then you can find rust on all kinds of pure stainless stuff. My favorite is cleats. Pure stainless of the most corrosion resistant alloys known that are strong enough to tie a boat up with...they rust in time.
The whole damn boat is a Battery! ;D
Sorry to drag this one up, but I am experiencing this and was wondering if anything else has been used for this. Once again I apologies. Thanks in advance, Brendan.
Sorry I missed this Brendan
I have been using TSI321 on the spool and pinion bearnnng and haven't had problems yet.
No problem. Dwight saved me on that project. After soaking it for days a torch was the solution.
Thank you Dwight & Bryan.
Ok so i have the same problem bought from some one said it will need minor service long story short my pinion is stuck to the spool its frozen looks like ive started damaging the pinion where can i buy one for my Newell C332-5
Quote from: Marco450r on April 17, 2019, 12:16:38 AM
Ok so i have the same problem bought from some one said it will need minor service long story short my pinion is stuck to the spool its frozen looks like ive started damaging the pinion where can i buy one for my Newell C332-5
You can use the Penn 505 pinion gear. You will need to remove the pinion gear ring and braze it to the Penn pinion gear, because the ring is larger on the Newell than the Penn. Then you will be good to go.
Now where can i find one of these sorry for all the Questions im new to working onnmy teels but wanna learn how to fix all my self get to know my reels and how to fix specially these tyoe of reels that they dont make no more and parts are hard to come by
Mystic Reel Parts is where you can find the Penn 505 pinion gear.
Oh cool thanks alot will def order one today Thanks
If you can grab a hold of the pinion gear with a pair of channel lock pliers then horizontally twist it and it will either twist off or crumble.
A word of caution be careful using chemicals or hear around the plastics.
I recently cleaned up a Penn Peerless No. 9 and encountered my first pinion gear frozen to the spool. After 2 days of soaking it in penetrating oil and working from both sides with 2 screwdrivers nothing changed. I came up with a solution that may help someone in the future. I used the pieces of wood from a common clothes peg which luckily fitted snug over the small pinion gear and with the help of lock pliers managed to work it loose with no damage to the plastic spool or pinion gear.
Some reconstructed pictures attached.
Regards
Alan
This is a very good tip Alan, thanks for showing.
Sal
Wow, wooden clothes pin and Vise-Grips --
What a great idea!
Thanks, Alan.
Best, Fred
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 17, 2019, 01:12:12 AMYou can use the Penn 505 pinion gear. You will need to remove the pinion gear ring and braze it to the Penn pinion gear, because the ring is larger on the Newell than the Penn. Then you will be good to go.
Yes, I'd heard a 505 would work but when I tried it, sure enough, the ring is smaller. So... how do you make the bigger ring stay on the smaller pinion? Got any photos of the results?
Quote from: alantani on June 27, 2010, 07:48:56 PMnewll gears have a 5:1 ratio, they are all stainless steel and a gear set costs $50 by the time you're done. i think a 4:1 jigmaster gear set is only $15. alan
So is the stock Jigmaster gear set a direct fit, no modification needed?
I just had a nasty mishap, accidentally tripped the lever on a full force cast with my G332F. That's a sound you don't ever want to hear from your reel!