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Title: Coronado 200yd
Post by: 1badf350 on July 10, 2020, 09:40:29 PM
Hi guys, did Penn make a 200yd Coronado??? I'm trying to figure out what's up with this thing
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: Maxed Out on July 10, 2020, 10:30:29 PM

Yes they made a 200yd version. How can I reasonably say no when you have one in your hands
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: mo65 on July 10, 2020, 10:35:19 PM
  That looks like a newer style stand...not the period correct "squared" tongue.
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: Deepennz on July 10, 2020, 10:54:21 PM
Hi Chris,
Once again,  I also have a 200yd Coronado - same handle/1938 style. I had thought that mine was a frankenreel, but I purchased it from Ray H's estate, and I couldn't see Ray being the creative sort, so it has been a bit of a head scratcher for me. Thank you, you have helped solve the dilemma.
Mine has the square, older 200yd, reel seat.
Woo Hoo, another Penn uncataloged reel!!
Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: 1badf350 on July 10, 2020, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on July 10, 2020, 10:30:29 PM

Yes they made a 200yd version. How can I reasonably say no when you have one in your hands
I thought it was a frankenreel like Martin mentioned
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: Benni3 on July 11, 2020, 07:23:57 AM
Coronado is one of my favorites,,,,, ;) I got a 34 and the other is bigger maybe 37or38 what size is it 300yd,,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: broadway on July 12, 2020, 06:33:55 PM
     Here is one of my conversations with Ray on the topic.  There is no avoiding denying, Ray was a Penn "Specialist", he knew stuff that we will never know and had one heck of an eagle eye for any and all things "Penn." Miss ya Ray Hodges!
Just wanted to share some of Ray's knowledge he passed on to a budding collector who asked questions at all hours of the day/night in search of "the answer"
... Ray always had them and was more than willing to share them to see the history live on.
Best,
Dom
PS- Martin, Glad you got his 200 yd. Coronado reel ...it was the first to ever be discovered as such. ;)


Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 12:40 PM

Hello Dom,

The weather is extreme at the moment. Still, hot and humid. Just had a refreshing shower and it is 3.30 a.m.

I saw that 200 yard Coro late yesterday.

It is completely original with a good foot.

The catalogs have 100 , 150 yard models with the small dia. Plates.  Then they jump to 250yards with the bigger plates. The 200 yard model is not in the cat's . They have the small dia plates. I have one and now so do you. They are the only 200 yd. Coro's i have seen.

The parts were in hand at Penn to put together these oddities and i suppose someone could have done that at a later date ...as Mike would say . As the parts are all of the same patina i believe that they were as such from day one. If you start swapping parts some have weathered more than others and it is usually chalk and cheese with the condition.

It is like a lot of unusual things from Penn. I doubt that many collectors would pick up on this odd 200 yard example. I think it will clean up to good. You have a rare example.

Now i will try to get some sleep....there must be a decent storm coming soon.

Best Regards,

Ray





Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: Deepennz on July 13, 2020, 12:32:53 AM
Hi Dom,
Thank you - that's awesome.!! To be able to read Ray's words discussing the reel that I have - priceless. It almost seems that he is still with us. RIP Ray.
So do you still have your 200yd Coro? Does that make it 3 known examples with Chris's?

Here's some of my observations WRT the early 'Take Apart's.
If you look at Chris's reel at the top you will see that the 'Turn/lift' button has a large slot - as if for a screwdriver. This style of T/L button seems to be specific for 1938 Coronado's only - all  my 38's have it, and there are other pictures of 38 Coro's that have the same.  Up until 1938 Penn had used a smooth button, which they then reverted to in 1939. They also used the smooth button on the '38 and 39 Silver Beaches, and the 1939 Squidder.
However, in 1940 Penn introduced the new T/L button, with Turn/Lift inscribed on it to all their Take Apart reels, including the new Surfmasters, as well as the Coronado's, S/B's, and the 1940 Squidder.

Hi Benni - Your photo doesn't show it but does your Coronado #95 (second picture) have a plain, or slotted, T/L button?
  I hope that helps date it.

Cheers
Martin




Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: Ron Jones on July 13, 2020, 10:20:25 PM
I am not a collector, although sitting in a boat 60 miles off the coast of Washington with nothing to do but listen to a wold class collector, Ted, talk about reels has taught me a thing or two. Were the Coronado's early surfmasters? Or did they have 155 gears or? They look an awful lot like a Surfmaster to me.
The Man
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: broadway on July 14, 2020, 12:28:13 AM
Hey Martin,
    Yes, I still have mine and I'm not sure what happened to George's since his passing but it exists for sure. I have the count at 4 now.
Mine is the same as yours with the slot in the "turn/lift" button.
I appreciate your observations and have found the same to be true with my reels. 
Ray, was a heck of a guy... I miss our conversations.
PS- Mike, your name came up in most every email we shared.  He respected you and your findings immensely but you already knew that. ;)
Best,
Dom
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: Benni3 on July 14, 2020, 01:26:50 AM
Yes it is different,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Coronado 200yd
Post by: milne on July 14, 2020, 08:01:28 AM
Great thread guys.
Martin, Hope all is well..

I took notice of your comments on the turn/lift button, went and checked out some of my reels.
The 39 Squidders, yep, smooth button.
But with my Silver Beaches, different story. All with the turn/lift inscribed, even on one that has the hash clicker button on the sideplate
and the 38 type handle... the other 2, one a left hand, have the torpedo handle... interesting, I'm going to have to sit down now when I get some time and look at some others I have......

Col