I just put together a 115 9/0 with Cortez side plates and frame. Everything went together well until I tightened everything up....
The issue is that the harness lugs are both very loose, and the post has no play so the screws are buttoned down correctly.
The openings for the harness lugs is def larger than the lugs.
I took it apart and tried again, but have the same results.
I would really like to run the reel topless, but the openings mean I have to use the top post.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Wrong lugs??? I think the lugs should be .080" thick. Rudy
Not sure Rudy? They were the lugs that came in the kit from Tom, and I tried stock lugs with the same issue.
I also have another set of plates, so will try those lugs before I reach out to Tom. I just wanted to see if this had happened to anyone else?
Being in Okinawa makes it a bit of a chore with the time difference and 2 week arrival time.
Assuming these side plates use the inner Chrome ring ? Did you put them on ?
If they do not require the Ring then measure the depth of the cut for the lugs and compare that to the old set as well as the second set you say you have . May have been machined too deep .
Quote from: SearedTuna on October 04, 2021, 05:04:54 AM
I just put together a 115 9/0 with Cortez side plates and frame. Everything went together well until I tightened everything up....
The issue is that the harness lugs are both very loose, and the post has no play so the screws are buttoned down correctly.
The openings for the harness lugs is def larger than the lugs.
I took it apart and tried again, but have the same results.
I would really like to run the reel topless, but the openings mean I have to use the top post.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Morning!
The lugs should fit snugly with a little movement possible depending on the tolerance stack. Usually with a little grease, any movement is unnoticed. If there's a lot of movement, try a couple thou shim.
Please contact me thru my website, I'm not always checking this forum.
Thanks,
Tom
Quote from: Wompus Cat on October 04, 2021, 01:52:29 PM
Assuming these side plates use the inner Chrome ring ? Did you put them on ?
If they do not require the Ring then measure the depth of the cut for the lugs and compare that to the old set as well as the second set you say you have . May have been machined too deep .
I am using the CC frame with the plates also being CC. Am I supposed to use the inner ring??
Well I am not familiar with the 9/0 but I think it depends on how your plates fit in the Frame whether the Frame has the cut-outs for the Lugs or the Side plates . If you can post some pix We can help you figure whaddup me thinks.
I have built several Tiburons with Cortez Plates ,Stock Plates and Lee Pro and some are Different as to whether you need the inner Rings or Not .
I just looked over on Cortez Conversions Site and took a Peek at one of his Complete reels and it shows both Chrome Rings installed but with Stock side Plates sooooooo If you have the same Rig you need the Rings to take out the Slack on the Lugs like I was thinkin in the begin.
A pic would REELY help here to help you .
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Mine are loose too, not a great fit. I have them turned upside down, I don't use them,just plugging the hole
Chrome rings won't fit and no use for them with Tom's plates
Quote from: Wompus Cat on October 04, 2021, 11:24:33 PM
I just looked over on Cortez Conversions Site and took a Peek at one of his Complete reels and it shows both Chrome Rings installed but with Stock side Plates sooooooo If you have the same Rig you need the Rings to take out the Slack on the Lugs like I was thinkin in the begin.
A pic would REELY help here to help you .
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d4844e_df33c6eed3054342a699073814482fa8.jpg/v1/fill/w_659,h_494,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/d4844e_df33c6eed3054342a699073814482fa8.jpg)
The side plates I am using are CC plates, so not using the rings.
Quote from: SearedTuna on October 04, 2021, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Wompus Cat on October 04, 2021, 11:24:33 PM
I just looked over on Cortez Conversions Site and took a Peek at one of his Complete reels and it shows both Chrome Rings installed but with Stock side Plates sooooooo If you have the same Rig you need the Rings to take out the Slack on the Lugs like I was thinkin in the begin.
A pic would REELY help here to help you .
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d4844e_df33c6eed3054342a699073814482fa8.jpg/v1/fill/w_659,h_494,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/d4844e_df33c6eed3054342a699073814482fa8.jpg)
The side plates I am using are CC plates, so not using the rings.
Is your frame backwards?
So I can flip them and they wont hit the spool inside? That would be awesome to omit the lugs and top post all together!
Where can I find the screws you are using for the plates? I like the idea of the hex head screws with the beefy collar!
Quote from: Swami805 on October 04, 2021, 11:27:50 PM
Mine are loose too, not a great fit. I have them turned upside down, I don't use them,just plugging the hole
Chrome rings won't fit and no use for them with Tom's plates
This is the pic for my last question, but both examples look like the frame is reversed, or I have mine wrong....?
If you have the Same Frame as Swami and Plates then you you are gonna have to talk to Cortez to see if they make Thicker Lugs or Shim yours or have a Nice Rattle when you shake it .
Here is another view from Cortez with their plates on it . Nice Looking Rig .
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/d4844e_e552b1bbb1e240d39082a7eb7a6108f6~mv2_d_1818_1366_s_2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1314,h_988,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/d4844e_e552b1bbb1e240d39082a7eb7a6108f6~mv2_d_1818_1366_s_2.jpg)
That is the exact rig I have. Ice Blue with the black frame. I have an offset Pro Challenger handle with Penn T-knob coming for it.
Gonna be used for Wahoo and Big Mahi!
If it looks as good as that I would go Fishin and Forget about a lil wiggle in the Lugs ...... ;D
Quote from: SearedTuna on October 04, 2021, 11:36:36 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on October 04, 2021, 11:27:50 PM
Mine are loose too, not a great fit. I have them turned upside down, I don't use them,just plugging the hole
Chrome rings won't fit and no use for them with Tom's plates
This is the pic for my last question, but both examples look like the frame is reversed, or I have mine wrong....?
Straight crossbar is the front. The dropped center bar is in the rear. That's for thumbing the spool.
Quote from: RowdyW on October 05, 2021, 12:10:35 AM
Quote from: SearedTuna on October 04, 2021, 11:36:36 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on October 04, 2021, 11:27:50 PM
Mine are loose too, not a great fit. I have them turned upside down, I don't use them,just plugging the hole
Chrome rings won't fit and no use for them with Tom's plates
This is the pic for my last question, but both examples look like the frame is reversed, or I have mine wrong....?
Straight crossbar is the front. The dropped centre bar is in the rear. That's for thumbing the spool.
I gotta use my left hand for spool pressure. No thumbing a 9/0 here with these fish ;D
I like the clearance for the line in front, so will try it this way and see how it works. Don"t want to take it apart again before grabbing a few mean greenies first!!
It is a beauty considering Tom's work is top notch!!
Not sure how to flip pictures??
Needs a better drag star, but not wanting to change the gear sleeve out to the PC to be able to use their star.
Anyone know where I can get something befitting Tom's work??
It looks like you have 1 thick & 2 thin wavy washers under the star. It should be 1 thick under the star & 1 thin on the outside of the star. Possibly you need one more keyed washer on top of the drag stack.
Just a suggestion you could try cutting a shim from a plastic milk bottle to stop your lugs from rattling
Kim
Quote from: RowdyW on October 05, 2021, 06:30:58 AM
It looks like you have 1 thick & 2 thin wavy washers under the star. It should be 1 thick under the star & 1 thin on the outside of the star. Possibly you need one more keyed washer on top of the drag stack.
I need to recheck the drag configuration to be sure I can get another keyed washer in there. If not then another regular washer on top of the stack.
I'm figuring this out as I go and so much lead time to get parts here! Have to fake it till I make it, but I know it will fish right now.
Thanks to everyone for help and advise as always!!!
The Ohana is strong here!!!
Quote from: Sharkb8 on October 05, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Just a suggestion you could try cutting a shim from a plastic milk bottle to stop your lugs from rattling
Kim
Great idea- pack some grease around it as well. Note, the 115 was designed in the 1930's to capabilty around the stock bridge sleeeve and gears. There likely isn't a mahi or hoo swimming that can break a 9/0 in stock form, especially with greased carbon drags. One of Our members caught a black marlin on a stock model a couple months ago, and ever what a great fighter mahi are, they can never be said to rival 300 lb black marlin. You have upped the ante considerably past this with Tom's parts- it is likely you have a steel main, so to realize the full potential of that build an SS sleeve and dog is the way to go when you're already that far into the finest 9/0 star drags built. My 0.02.
John
Quote from: thorhammer on October 05, 2021, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Sharkb8 on October 05, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Just a suggestion you could try cutting a shim from a plastic milk bottle to stop your lugs from rattling
Kim
Great idea- pack some grease around it as well. Note, the 115 was designed in the 1930's to capabilty around the stock bridge sleeeve and gears. There likely isn't a mahi or hoo swimming that can break a 9/0 in stock form, especially with greased carbon drags. One of Our members caught a black marlin on a stock model a couple months ago, and ever what a great fighter mahi are, they can never be said to rival 300 lb black marlin. You have upped the ante considerably past this with Tom's parts- it is likely you have a steel main, so to realize the full potential of that build an SS sleeve and dog is the way to go when you're already that far into the finest 9/0 star drags built. My 0.02.
That was me ;D ;)
That was me that got the Marlin.
I'm just building up some stuff!
A buddy gave me a box of old 9/0 reels and I have two that I am building up with CC goodies cause I just luv me a 9/0 reel to begin with!
Those are purdy btw!!! The Tib handles really set them off too!
I have a stainless gear sleeve and double dogs for this and my other CC plates.
I am working on my 9th 9/0 this month so just trying to get my customs dialed in.
The 9/0 I caught the Marlin on is catching Wahoo like crazy right now, so not gonna retire it until I get a couple other reels dialed in.
Pics after this weekend of fishing to follow for you all!!
Ah, noted!!! And very well done on the Black! Keep the pics coming!
Quote from: SearedTuna on October 05, 2021, 12:53:09 AM
It is a beauty considering Tom's work is top notch!!
Not sure how to flip pictures??
Needs a better drag star, but not wanting to change the gear sleeve out to the PC to be able to use their star.
Anyone know where I can get something befitting Tom's work??
Not sure what you mean by better. There are prettier aftermarket stars out ther that might look better with the custom sideplstes. In terms of function, the star does two things: creates clamping pressure on he drag stack, and works as a heat sink to help draw heat from the drag stack.
The ideal star for the latter has to be a material that conducts heat well (aluminum, brass), has a large surface area, and a narrow cross section. The stock stars do a pretty good job on the latter.
The aftermarket stars can be more ergonomic for adjusting. Nothing wrong with building a really nice looking reel, but it seems unlikely that changing the star will do much possitive in terms of performance, unless the stock star cannot handle the clamping load you are now using, which seems unlikely.
-J
Everyone should have a friend with a box of unwanted 9/0, lol! Thanks for the compliment- I realy like these reels and need to get off my can and do a Cortez family shot of all of them. I think there's 24 now but lost count of Jiggy's and 4/0.
Quote from: jurelometer on October 05, 2021, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: SearedTuna on October 05, 2021, 12:53:09 AM
It is a beauty considering Tom's work is top notch!!
Not sure how to flip pictures??
Needs a better drag star, but not wanting to change the gear sleeve out to the PC to be able to use their star.
Anyone know where I can get something befitting Tom's work??
Not sure what you mean by better. There are prettier aftermarket stars out ther that might look better with the custom sideplstes. In terms of function, the star does two things: creates clamping pressure on he drag stack, and works as a heat sink to help draw heat from the drag stack.
Just wanting ones that fit the aesthetics of the build. I suppose I could use this one as I planned, but want to keep it in good shape as they are hard to find.
The ideal star for the latter has to be a material that conducts heat well (aluminum, brass), has a large surface area, and a narrow cross section. The stock stars do a pretty good job on the latter.
The aftermarket stars can be more ergonomic for adjusting. Nothing wrong with building a really nice looking reel, but it seems unlikely that changing the star will do much possitive in terms of performance, unless the stock star cannot handle the clamping load you are now using, which seems unlikely.
-J