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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Daiwa Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Mrc70 on July 27, 2019, 09:25:57 PM

Title: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Mrc70 on July 27, 2019, 09:25:57 PM
Hello everyone. Just acquired a used sl30sh and can't get the handle off the drive shaft. Any recommendations on getting it unstuck?  A few squirts of WD40 did not work.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Gfish on July 27, 2019, 09:33:02 PM
Freezing and(or) heating. Freezing first best, as heat can damage other non-metal parts.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Mrc70 on July 27, 2019, 10:07:54 PM
Thanks. Never heard of freezing. What's the best way to freeze it?  Use Freeze Off??
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: foakes on July 27, 2019, 10:40:47 PM
I just bag it in a zip lock bag — and toss it in the freezer for 2-3 hours — or overnight.

Then when my heat is ready and staged — small butane torch or HD soldering iron — apply the heat then try to back it off — generally works — unless really rusted badly.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Mrc70 on July 27, 2019, 11:29:17 PM
Thanks, I will try to freeze it..
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Gfish on July 28, 2019, 12:22:37 AM
Alright Hoss. Let us know. Yesterday, I unscrewed a stainless steel stud from an aluminium reel frame via freezing. The less dense metal probably contracts faster/more than the denser metal.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: alantani on July 28, 2019, 05:38:34 AM
if handle is trashed and you have to get a new one anyway, you can cut the handle literally in half with the cutting wheel of a dremel right at the drive shaft.   :-\
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Fish-aholic on July 28, 2019, 01:02:01 PM
Penetrating fluid and  using the star drag wheel to elevate the handle off the d/shaft. Works every time.  ;)
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Mrc70 on July 28, 2019, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: alantani on July 28, 2019, 05:38:34 AM
if handle is trashed and you have to get a new one anyway, you can cut the handle literally in half with the cutting wheel of a dremel right at the drive shaft.   :-\

Yes I had to do exactly that to my other Sl20sh!  I hope I don't have to cut this one off.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Mrc70 on July 28, 2019, 10:31:57 PM
Quote from: Fish-aholic on July 28, 2019, 01:02:01 PM
Penetrating fluid and  using the star drag wheel to elevate the handle off the d/shaft. Works every time.  ;)

Thanks. I am doing just that and it still won't budge!  I will try the freezing oil and report back with results..
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Fish-aholic on July 29, 2019, 03:41:46 PM
A few squirts of WD40 isn't going to offer enough penetration as you are finding out. It is better to submerge the ceased parts in shallow WD40 bathes and left a day or two giving it a chance to penetrate deep and then have another go at it.

I personally use designated penetrating fluid and ceased handles are removed within the hour. When backing the star off I have two hands on opposing sides of the wheel to help adjust and creep handles off d/shafts. I put that much into it I often think I'm going to strip out the d/shaft and stars threads until I see some movement with the handle and with success a sigh of relief...

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_29_07_19_8_26_33.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_29_07_19_8_26_05.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_29_07_19_8_25_40.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_29_07_19_8_25_16.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_29_07_19_8_24_51.jpeg)


:)
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Donnyboat on July 29, 2019, 04:23:43 PM
One of the best penetrating mixes is acetone & auto transmission fluid mixed 50/50, scrape as much corrosion away as possible, then coat it several times with that mix, then maybe force it of with the star, good luck cheers Don.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Swami805 on July 29, 2019, 05:27:47 PM
I've had good luck with 50/50 acetone trans fluid. I use the same little bottle like tsi321 comes in.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Mrc70 on July 29, 2019, 06:02:59 PM
Thanks, everyone!  After soaking in WD-40 again and scraping off as much of the rust between the drive shaft and the handle using a nail, I was able to reverse the star drag and back the handle off! 
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Cor on July 29, 2019, 07:23:44 PM
👍  ;D
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: George6308 on July 29, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Could the corrosion be galvanic caused by two differant metals ? Steel bolt with an Aluminum handle? Bad design. I have seen this combination on anther non Penn reel. Had to replace the whole handle.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: boon on July 29, 2019, 10:38:54 PM
It's an extremely common configuration. The issue with the Daiwas is that the little black cap/nut retainer is rather good at holding salt water in around the joint, which sets things up nicely for a bit of fizzing.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Donnyboat on July 30, 2019, 12:11:11 AM
So there you go, fish aholic, very wize man, grad it worked for you, I keep my acetone mix in a class jar, acetone not safe in plastic, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Sl30sh Handle stuck to drive shaft
Post by: Fish-aholic on July 30, 2019, 09:38:48 PM
Mrc70 1 - Sl30sh 0 ;D

This is what I like to do to be proactive and stop such from rearing its head again...

Ceased
(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_30_07_19_1_49_31_288551623.png)


Freed
(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_30_07_19_1_49_35_28861432.png)


M/grease applied and packed in around d/shaft stopping galvanic corrosion that results with ceased handles
(https://alantani.com/gallery/28/2907_30_07_19_1_49_35_288611810.png)


Also worthy of mentioning is the brass screw which fastens handle nut cap to handle arm, it will need greasing because it has a habit of ceasing in situ too creating another obstacle that could of been easily avoided.