Well, since it was 10 degree this morning outside and my heater never shot down, I decided to stay home and work on some reels instead.
I wasn't familiar with these reels, 10 years ago this gentleman down Jersey shore wanted me to try it so bad, but I never had interest, well until now.
I took Fred's advice to others about getting familiar before digging in the two speed.
Here is the 270:
(https://i.imgur.com/pQKprXf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vv7zl5d.jpg)
sorry, pics appear to be a little out of focus, maybe I had some grease on the lens
pretty cool design, the drive gear and anti- reverse is assebled as a unit, very clever
(https://i.imgur.com/zYnjC6L.jpg)
the plate cover for the opposite side is also a clever idea, this allows you to install the handle on the left side or right side
I'm not sure if all the Dam Quick reels are assemble the same as these, the drive gear is held in place with a pin. Of course to remove it, that pin needs to be punched out. I'm not sure how Fred "the master" does his and I forgot to ask him.
I wasn't comfortable using a punch and a hammer, so I decided to use my press
positioning it just right, it took a second to remove it
(https://i.imgur.com/sW9Zw60.jpg)
use anything of the correct size, I used a dremel bit
(https://i.imgur.com/S5M9GLV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3wXmG3e.jpg)
and off it comes
(https://i.imgur.com/K1SiQzr.jpg)
the drive gear has 6 cutouts on the back side, those are there for the anti-reverse pin to ride on, the pin sits on a spring and it's shaped as a door latch...very effective
(https://i.imgur.com/TRWpmbY.jpg)
all parts are off the reel, I didn't bother removing the handle knob, or shaft. I did remove the reel stand, but forgot to take a pic
(https://i.imgur.com/bcPF1yz.jpg)
I do want to mention that the ball bearing was crazy tight on the drive shaft, I decided to use my press on it as well
(https://i.imgur.com/ayfv58p.jpg)
of course the press helps with removing and put back.
For those of you that don't have one, I highly recommend it, #50 will be money well spent, I use mine pretty often
and the reassembly
(https://i.imgur.com/miwshEO.jpg)
I decided to use Penn grease on this one, no particular reason, I really like that grease and don't use it often
(https://i.imgur.com/i90kUMZ.jpg)
not sure if all the 270's come with a shim that sits under the worm wheel, I wanted to mention it, if you don't see it, it might be caught on the gear and you could lose it
(https://i.imgur.com/qljRKBk.jpg)
nice pin roller on these
(https://i.imgur.com/IQgEFjw.jpg)
drive gear and anti-reverse assembled and back it goes
(https://i.imgur.com/bmKotAr.jpg)
the rotor
(https://i.imgur.com/F3Ylu14.jpg)
the spool shaft and bail
(https://i.imgur.com/kxzuEyM.jpg)
and this one is ready to fight again.
(https://i.imgur.com/vv7zl5d.jpg)
Taking a closer look at these Dam Quick reels has left me thinking why they're so cheap to purchase today.
Comparing this one to the 704Z it's very close in size and weight, the 270 is 1/2" longer and a little lighter, but not by much.
I like both reels mentioned here, but from what I've seen and taking everything in consideration, the 270 would give the 704Z a run for its money.
This reel is a Tank, I could see it would be very durable and easy to maintain. The reel is also extremely smooth for its size, to me smoother than the 704Z.
Best,
Sal
Sounds like Sal my soon have another addiction problem......as if being hooked on Crack wasn't bad enough ;D
Brett
Thanks for sharing your skills, Sal --
Nice and complete job on that tough old Super!
Best,
Fred
Fred, having you here in case parts or knowledge is needed, makes it that much easier :).
If these reels had better screws for the cover plates, it would be perfect. I wonder if we could find some in stainless, or maybe one of the guys could make us some.
the 3 plate screws are the only thing I'm not crazy about on these, I like everything else though.
Thanks for showing these to us Fred, I can't wait to fish with one.
Sal
hi sal, another great tutorial as usual, those reels are pretty tough and it's nice how you can make them either righty or lefty. depending on the thread size, maybe a philister head screw or a allen head screw would work , there is plenty of space there where you wouldn't hit your knuckles on them. take care my friend, i hope this artic blast ends soon. harryk
Good tutorial Sal!
I like my arbor press too, and know it has more then paid for itself.
John
Nice tutorial, Sal. That will come in quite handy for a lot of people down the road. 8)
Thanks guys, now the only problem, me liking these quick will make them multiply quickly :)
(https://i.imgur.com/yN5ERuf.jpg)
I purchase one from this gentleman, he was so nice and honest, I went back and grabbed the other 4 he had.
Not top shape, some have minor scrapes. I was even able to borrow a stand for my 2 speed that looked very nice. The one I had had some paint missing.
(https://i.imgur.com/lVl5FPM.jpg)
Stay warm, it's hitting 20 for the high here today
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 28, 2017, 07:44:37 PM
Stay warm, it's hitting 20 for the high here today
Sal
Sal,
Am staying warm here! It is 91 degrees & 95% humidity- we have been in Cartagena, Colombia for 2 days & my hope tonight is to find some 20 degree ice for my Gin & Tonic ;D
Hope you are all enjoying your time with family!
Wayne
:D :D...good one Wayne.
Get cranking and let us see some of these actions
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=AwrBT766TkVacPAA3khXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyYjBkZXVkBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDQjQ0ODFfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=fishing+off+cartagena+columbia&fr=mcafee#id=2&vid=bdf153179f56e360b400c1ec8da4050d&action=view
Have fun down there.
Sal
I`m going to get one of these 270 reels Sal. Your post will be very handy for me.
thanks
Greg
Well-crafted post, informative & great pics--thanks.
Frank
Thanks guys! These are great reels, any upgrade that makes sense will be well worth it. I'm going to try to get some thinner heat treated ss washers, so we could squeeze a few more drag washers in there, it would be just what the doctor ordered.
Quote from: basto on December 28, 2017, 08:40:59 PM
I`m going to get one of these 270 reels Sal. Your post will be very handy for me.
thanks
Greg
Greg, I know that you've been working on some SS models, these are a little easier to work on than those.
The only issue you might have is with removing the ball bearing. I used my press and got it done with ease, but I could tell you, from the squeaky sound it made on the way out, it is crazy tight on there.
Cheers,
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 28, 2017, 10:15:13 PM
Thanks guys! These are great reels, any upgrade that makes sense will be well worth it. I'm going to try to get some thinner heat treated ss washers, so we could squeeze a few more drag washers in there, it would be just what the doctor ordered.
Quote from: basto on December 28, 2017, 08:40:59 PM
I`m going to get one of these 270 reels Sal. Your post will be very handy for me.
thanks
Greg
Greg, I know that you've been working on some SS models, these are a little easier to work on than those.
The only issue you might have is with removing the ball bearing. I used my press and got it done with ease, but I could tell you, from the squeaky sound it made on the way out, it is crazy tight on there.
Cheers,
Sal
Great post Sal. Thanks.
I sent a set of 270 drags to Adam a while back and he's cutting titanium thin washers and CF thin.
Could be ready soon is my guess.
Steve
Solid Work as Usual Sal. I have a few already.
It was 3 degrees yesterday and 7 this morning. I still have to go to work. >:(
It was about 25 in the plant. :P
I'm freezing my butt off!
Oh, very cool Steve, thanks for getting on those. I can't wait to get some...good job!
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 28, 2017, 08:10:07 PM
:D :D...good one Wayne.
Have fun down there.
Sal
Sal-BO!!!!!
For me, on this trip, "Nada Pescado!" Timing does not work out for a day of fishing on this entire trip.
So, I was looking around for some ice on this 1,200' long ship, and no luck, and I ended up at this Frozen martini Bar.
I know I'm taking up space on your post, and if anyone has an issue wit it, please contact Dominick, I'm on Vacation.
Wayne
What kind of sissy drink is that Wayne. :D
There isn't a Bridal shower going on, is there? ;)
Dominick, I think you need to cut your boy off. :P
Have fun in Paradise.
I am Jealous.
Sal, those drag kits from Adam should be hitting the market soon. I have my order in. 8)
Great tutorial Sal. I think the 270 will be a force to reckon with when these new drag kits come in. There are guys customizing these for the surf and they really look cool.
It's a big ol' girl...built to hoss a lunker! 8)
Quote from: El Pescador on December 29, 2017, 01:08:24 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 28, 2017, 08:10:07 PM
:D :D...good one Wayne.
Have fun down there.
Sal
Sal-BO!!!!!
For me, on this trip, "Nada Pescado!" Timing does not work out for a day of fishing on this entire trip.
So, I was looking around for some ice on this 1,200' long ship, and no luck, and I ended up at this Frozen martini Bar.
I know I'm taking up space on your post, and if anyone has an issue wit it, please contact Dominick, I'm on Vacation.
Wayne
Wayne, take any space you need on any of my posts, its never a problem ;)
Who's getting married?
I have to agree with Daron, what's with the sissy drink? you would never catch me holding something as such ;D...Have a good time bud :)
When I first started messing around with one smooth drag had a carbontex washer for a small shimano spinner that was a pretty close fit if the wait is killing you. A bit smother than stock but not a huge upgrade in pounds of drag. Can't find where i wrote it down but it will work in a pinch.
Quote from: Swami805 on December 29, 2017, 04:30:51 AM
When I first started messing around with one smooth drag had a carbontex washer for a small shimano spinner that was a pretty close fit if the wait is killing you. A bit smother than stock but not a huge upgrade in pounds of drag. Can't find where i wrote it down but it will work in a pinch.
I appreciate your input Sheridan, but CF washers would never be a problem for me personally.
I was lucky to find these used cutters on line a few years ago, I got those at a ridiculous price.
The boxes were beat up, but the cutters are in great shape. With these you'll get the ID and OD with one punch, along with my 1 ton press, they do a pretty good job on any washer I need.
(https://i.imgur.com/xE7P4Zd.jpg)
Metal washers is another story, I did a couple in the past, but wouldn't waste my time on those ever again, unless I needed just one unusual washer.
Best,
Sal
The Super 270 is very similar to my Finessa and D.A.M. Quick 220. Then the N series came along and the company did away with the cutouts for the anti-reverse pin and spring. Too bad they got away from that design.
I'd really like to have one of those arbor presses because the one thing I've been reluctant to attempt is use a punch to remove the pins. The crank handle on my D.A.M. Quicks also use pins. Too bad those arbor presses aren't quite tall enough to build an attachment to double as a wine press. For many years I made wine but didn't see it necessary to spend two or three hundred bucks on a wine press.
Great tutorial, Sal, hope to find a Super 270 for my collection eventually.
:D..Chester, you could use it to cork the bottle if you get creative. As for wine press, get yourself a half barrel, clean your feet really good and put some music on. Get in there and dance on some grape ;D
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 29, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
:D..Chester, you could use it to cork the bottle if you get creative. As for wine press, get yourself a half barrel, clean your feet really good and put some music on. Get in there and dance on some grape ;D
;D Been there, done that. But the grapes l grow are muscadines and have such a hard hull even me at 225 lbs can't get them completely crushed by stomping. Especially making white wine where there is no skin contact during fermentation. Can't grow good wine grapes in Tennessee, climate and humidity is all wrong. Too many folks with degrees in viticulture have tried and failed. So nowadays l just settle for the watered down imported stuff from the Rhine or Moselle River. ;)
Don't want to hijack the thread, but are there any other winemakers out there? :)
Thanks for the schooling. Do want to add a 270 to my "gathering" of reels. Think it will be a good reel for my wife to use catfishing.
Am totally impressed so far with the DAM reels. Quality is just outstanding. Wish I knew these reels existed years ago.
Quote from: Chuck750ss on December 30, 2017, 03:20:06 AM
Wish I knew these reels existed years ago.
Same here Chuck...nice reels! From what I've seen, I bet they won't miss a beat if they accidentally get dunked . Of course you will need to break it down when you get home, but I could pretty much bet if these get dunked in the first part of your fishing, you should still be able to fish all day.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 30, 2017, 04:03:04 AM
Quote from: Chuck750ss on December 30, 2017, 03:20:06 AM
Wish I knew these reels existed years ago.
Same here Chuck...nice reels! From what I've seen, I bet they won't miss a beat if they accidentally get dunked . Of course you will need to break it down when you get home, but I could pretty much bet if these get dunked in the first part of your fishing, you should still be able to fish all day.
Sal
Agree. In my younger days I abused a Mitchell 300 every possible way you could. And it never let me down. I would rate the DAM 330 I purchased as much better built than the Mitchell. Durn shame they followed the path of others. Maybe I am just too old fashioned, but I believe they if they still produced quality reels, they would sell. On quality alone.
After all the talk on these reels I can see the $ going up. Good time to look if you're thinking about it. I got a nice super (not the 2speed) for about $25 to my door, good condition too. That was awhile ago about the same time I got the 2speed. Heck of a reel,need to get it cleaned up. I'll look for the package the washers came in and see if I can find the# for those who don't have a press and need better washers.
They are reall great reels. Cant believe I have more of them than Sal. Probably the only model I have more of....Jeff
Quote from: Swami805 on December 31, 2017, 12:56:28 AM
After all the talk on these reels I can see the $ going up. Good time to look if you're thinking about it. I got a nice super (not the 2speed) for about $25 to my door, good condition too. That was awhile ago about the same time I got the 2speed. Heck of a reel,need to get it cleaned up. I'll look for the package the washers came in and see if I can find the# for those who don't have a press and need better washers.
There might not be a need for you to look for those washers, Adam from Motive Fabrication is making some kits. His kits will usually include both washers.
On this particular reel he's using Titanium, you won't get better than that and his prices are always a good deal.
Yes, you are correct about the price going up, I did flush out a bunch that weren't available for sale prior to this thread...we are famous here :)
To the guys looking for these, we should all stay away from the high prices, if no one bites they will come back down.
I just picked up a Finessa for $18 shipped to me, didn't need it, but couldn't let it go at that price
Best,
Sal
I'm thinking Adam's drag kits will make it a whole new ball game, can't wait for some. That was just for the chronically impatient.
Quote from: Alto Mare on December 31, 2017, 02:46:22 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on December 31, 2017, 12:56:28 AM
After all the talk on these reels I can see the $ going up. Good time to look if you're thinking about it. I got a nice super (not the 2speed) for about $25 to my door, good condition too. That was awhile ago about the same time I got the 2speed. Heck of a reel,need to get it cleaned up. I'll look for the package the washers came in and see if I can find the# for those who don't have a press and need better washers.
There might not be a need for you to look for those washers, Adam from Motive Fabrication is making some kits. His kits will usually include both washers.
On this particular reel he's using Titanium, you won't get better than that and his prices are always a good deal.
Yes, you are correct about the price going up, I did flush out a bunch that weren't available for sale prior to this thread...we are famous here :)
To the guys looking for these, we should all stay away from the high prices, if no one bites they will come back down.
I just picked up a Finessa for $18 shipped to me, didn't need it, but couldn't let it go at that price
Best,
Sal
You are definitely onto something, Sal. ;) I've only come across a couple of reels in all my days that I felt were worth paying elevated prices for. With a little patience, the price always seems to come back to normal. Patience is the key! Other than a limited few extremely rare reels, there will always be another, and keeping the price reasonable ensures you can turn it and at least get most of your investment back. :)
Noticed lately that Penn spinners are going thru a self correcting phase on eBay. Some exceptions. Such as a 450ss going as I type. Was guilty of paying too much for a reel recently. But it was my Xmas present to myself.
The market generally takes care of itself -- so it is hard to get hurt in the long or short run by paying too much for a great reel, IMO.
Conversely -- a rough reel can't be bought cheap enough -- since you can't pay too little for a rough reel.
If one does this for the investment or money value -- sometimes you may be disappointed if needed to buy or sell immediately. But like Tommy sez -- patience.
Mitchell, starting with Carpano and Pons around 1939 -- manufactured their 10,000,000th reel about 1970.
From 70 to 72, production was ramped up to 12,000 reels a day. The 20,000,000 mark was attained in 1972!
My point is -- There are plenty of reels out there.
Best,
Fred
Quote from: Swami805 on December 31, 2017, 04:18:27 PM
I'm thinking Adam's drag kits will make it a whole new ball game, can't wait for some. That was just for the chronically impatient.
I should have them in my hands by the end of the week.
perfection takes time. ;)
Guy over Vintage Penn Reel FB page has a super for sale 20$ shipped. One end of foot broken. Looked good other than that.
I saw this on youtube today. I haven't posted a video before so I'm just going to paste a link here and see what happens.
-Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9dC_p28cfw
I've seen that video a while back, he does nice work.
Sal
Just curious has anyone solved the commercial availability of CF washers for the 270? Tore mine down last night and need to swap them out......Bill
Hey fellas, needing help with this reel. I have several of them. A problem that has showed on several is the drag increasing with fish on. 3 times this last summer I lost decent fish on these reels because of the drag getting so tight it pops the line. The drag knob turns with fish taking line. This issue shows when running drag above 10 lbs.
Last time it happened it just about got the better of me... I almost launched it into the water I was fishing. I have Benny's 270 it's doing the same thing. I will not fish these reels until I get this sorted. Help ! ... Jeff
The only way i can see this happening is that the key washer "on top" is spinning on the shaft .
Not possible with with out snapping off the tabs on the two washers that sit on top & bottom. I believe I've just sorted it out. The drag knob on several of these reels I have is making contact with the spool.
Drag knob cannot contact anything other than the drag stack. As the drag is tightened drag stack compresses with the spool & drag knob making contact. The after market stack needs another washer or two.... Jeff
Got ye , i was thinking stock drag set up . you can add some old parts to make the stack higher . Is that the 5 stack you have now to make a 6 stack ?
Hi Jeff —
Just drop a smooth on both sides — 1/8" thickness SS washer on top of the stack and under the drag knob.
This should be close to the same diameter as the bottom of the drag knob that compresses the stack.
That takes care of it with no reduction in your drag.
Best, Fred
Thanks Fred ! This is exactly what I've done. Most know I am fond of these reels. The Quick 5001 is another that I wont ever be with out. The 5001 is simply a Super Spinner with out the issues some early Penn Torque spinners & other heavy spinning reels experienced. No issue fishing 80 line.
Some take issue for what they sell for. They are heavy by to days standards. However they give me more performance for money spent than any other reel made today... This is a simple fact ... Jeff
Another thought , the circle clip may be convenient to hold the stack in the spool but not necessary, for that little tall stack !!!!
Oldmanjoe, Yup I'm not using it. Thanks Joe ... Jeff
With drag knob not touching the spool only the drag stack, the drag knob still turns with drag above 10lbs. Eventually breaking the line. I've been fishing the 270 with 30 line & low drag. Every 270 I've just tested turns the the drag know when fished above 10 lbs. of drag & line coming off spool.
Note this is happening with the stock drag & Motive Fabs drag kit. 10 different 270's did as I describe. It is most noticeable when the drag heats up & expands. You will see the drag knob move a little at a time tightening up.
I'm clearly missing something ... Jeff
Have you checked the bottom of the spool and top of the click gear for rough spots, and the under spool washer ?
Now, here's some food for thought. ??? Back when all these style/types of reels were manufactured and tested people seldom used over 20# test line. The line used back then was mainly mono, which was very inconsistent in diameter and had many weak areas. The general practice back then was to to set your drag just under the lowest line breaking strength, use a slow to moderate action rod and play the fish down to land it, not tighten the drag down and crank it like a wench. They were never designed for that much abuse and stress.
Not necessarily pertinent to your issue, Jeff, but your problem is the exact reason why I switched to fulcrum drag reels 50 years ago, abandoned all front drag designs and never looked back. That was the major curse, other than difficult tension adjustment while fight a big fish, back in the first couple of major spinning reel decades of use and design.
Hey Tommy ! Right now until some one shows different these reels in my mind aren't capable of fishing 30 line & above with fish that strip yards of line off. Like I said I've lost 3 good fish using these reels .
Yes, I was aware reels from this era were fished with light line.
Here is how high I have set the spool on the shaft. Drag still goes tighter with line coming off spool.
Same thing when set lower with spool only contacting drag stack. Stainless washer below drag knob & on clicker gear below spool. Drag at 15 lbs.
Keep in mind I have over 50 of these reels. Thinking a felt washer may correct this.
I just pulled 10 of them. They all do the samet hing ... Jeff
Check the tongue on the the washer , that it is not sloppy and slipping out of the groove . When it does slips from the groove ,it catches the thread and becomes a nut.
Every piece of the drag stack is new. I did check nothing is popping out of place in the drag stack ... Jeff
??? Let`s see a picture of the drag set . I can `t see how a nut can turn when sitting on top of a tongue washer .
Quote from: oldmanjoe on February 08, 2021, 02:02:12 AM
??? Let`s see a picture of the drag set . I can see how a nut can turn when sitting on top of a tongue washer .
Joe, I'll gladly get pics but understand I have others that do same . Benny's 270 is also doing it.
You have the ear washers on top , switch the order .
Joe I wondered about that. I'll give it a try & get back ... Jeff
The eared washers dont fit & lay flat.... I have had enough for one night. Think I have 9 of these kits none of the eared washers fit right ... Jeff
This is my order , if you don`t have room for all washers ,you can skip the very bottom friction . You may have to start with a tongue washer for the very bottom .
Check to see if your spool slots go all the way to the bottom , most ear washers w on`t hit the floor were as a tongue washer will or a friction
This one is the stock arrangement .
With an eared washer on top — when the spool rotates as the drag is in active mode — it will rotate (wind the drag tighter) the drag knob under heavier drag pressures. Line will break with a heavy fish on.
Since you have aftermarket drags — if they came from Adam — he told us that the eared washers were a tight fit — and might need some filing work, if I recall.
To prove this — set up one with a factory drag stack — exactly as the schematic shows. Then try it.
The fact that all 10 of your reels are acting the same — is a big clue.
These reels will handle a lot of drag pressure — but the stack must be loose — with maybe a washer or two removed — and the keyed washer cannot be on top where it contacts the drag knob under heavy pressure.
Keep the stack loose — so that it has a chance to work under all drag ranges.
When Adam made the washers — he indicated that they were too tight of a fit — and would need some experimenting around with.
Best, Fred
So I was curious about the drag washers after watching "custom DAM quick super 270 made water tight for surf fishing" so I contacted Darren and he never upgraded the drag washers,,,,,,, :D and the reel on the video is for sale on ebay it-193807132625 now I'm more curious,,,,,,,, ;D
Quote from: Benni3 on February 08, 2021, 05:42:49 AM
custom DAM quick super 270 made water tight for surf fishing
Wow, that guy's really good. Inventive and a fine craftsmen. However, he keeps saying "submergable" which is not a word. It's submersible.
Thanks guys ! I was starting think it was me just running dumb again :D
The pic of the spool had the drag stack pushed up higher than it actually set.
Quote from: foakes on February 08, 2021, 04:58:20 AM
..... The fact that all 10 of your reels are acting the same — is a big clue....
Best, Fred
Yup ! ;D Yes it is is. Exactly my reason for mentioning it. To reveal the possibility now a fact that I was clueless ;) Thanks Fred !
We are all learning, Jeff —
None of us is clueless — unless we don't ask questions.
Best, Fred
Joe, I wish to thank you for your help & for staying with me on this ... Jeff
Joe is very sharp!
Best, Fred
:) Glad to help , truth be told i come here to learn also ....... Still in the classroom , hopefully still awake !!!!!!
I though about it after i posted the picture of my stack , that the spool was cut a little deeper in the well . It`s .450 deep from deck to basement .. The stack is 325 thick under the clip .
Here is a picture were the slot is not all the way to the bottom , that`s why i would not start with a ear washer " dead air space "
I know this is an old thread, but had to say I changed the 3 stock resitex washers in my 550, which has the same drag as the 270.
I put carbontex in and got the same tightening of the drag with fish on.
I had done this with 2 reels with same result.
I took out the carbontex and put the stock drag back after wiping the resitex washers and the metal washers dry and my drags are working perfectly.
I think DAM got it right the first time.
Greg
Quote from: basto on January 30, 2022, 09:31:20 PM
I know this is an old thread, but had to say I changed the 3 stock resitex washers in my 550, which has the same drag as the 270.
I put carbontex in and got the same tightening of the drag with fish on.
I had done this with 2 reels with same result.
I took out the carbontex and put the stock drag back after wiping the resitex washers and the metal washers dry and my drags are working perfectly.
I think DAM got it right the first time.
Greg
Greg You may have mixed up your steel washer order if you had the drags tightening with fish on .
As quoted from Fred`s post ; With an eared washer on top — when the spool rotates as the drag is in active mode — it will rotate (wind the drag tighter) the drag knob under heavier drag pressures. Line will break with a heavy fish on.
The stock Resistex washers are very effective and nearly indestructible — they are only to be used dry.
They caught plenty of very large fish 65 years ago — and the fish haven't changed.
I have built these reels for clients in Eastern Europe, Romania, Yugoslavia, Austria, Germany, and here in North America — using stock drag stacks.
Many of the folks use them to fish the canals common in Europe — for large, heavy Carp. These fish can be 40 to 70 pounds — are tough fighters — plus they sound (head down) for safety — and must be horsed out of the canal and up the sides. Tough on the drags and reel — but that is what these reels were designed for.
This type of angling would explode or damage most modern reels.
For the DQ Supers — it is just routine. Rebait and catch another big ugly.
Right tools for the job...
Best, Fred
The 270 is definitely a Tank.
One of their best creations.
When you get to cranking on it. The centrifugal force makes you realize how powerful it really is.