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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: PeteC on July 30, 2015, 12:48:27 AM

Title: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: PeteC on July 30, 2015, 12:48:27 AM
Hi all, i have just been given 2 brand new Chinese jigmaster 500l's
What are the differences/ problems compared to the US manufactured reels?
I would like to upgrade them ,but i dont know if there are major differences or not
I notice some of the aftermarket frame manufacturers say that their kits dont suit
I would also like to turn one into a 501 if possible ,to use for kayak fishing

Waiting to hear your thoughts
Cheers Pete

PS: Hi my name is Pete and i'm a fishing addict;
its been 2 days since i went fishing
i think i need help
(or so swmbo tells me) ::)



Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: Rancanfish on July 30, 2015, 01:55:29 AM
Welcome Pete!

I honestly don't know about any differences between US and Chinese versions.  Someone will know pretty quick here.
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: redsetta on July 30, 2015, 03:14:26 AM
The Chinese-manufactured Jigmasters I've seen have S/S yokes and eccentric jacks, but are otherwise identical.
Cheers, Justin
PS Welcome aboard Pete!
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: PeteC on August 11, 2015, 01:47:59 AM
Thanks for the replies and welcome
Found out all i need to know from a local fishing shop, so all good
Am keeping one of the reels, and going to strip and inspect it, and see what needs improving
The other reel i'm swapping with an other kayak fisher for his older (and well used USA built)
500 and a new unused Seaboy 190
so i will have a reel that i can upgrade to a 501, with all the "fruit"
I want to use a Accurate/Tiburon kit and all the lovely gear that the fine folk on this amazing
site have to offer
Time to save some pennies, because the exchange rate and freight/ post charges ,
sure add up getting gear to this side of the world.

Cheers Pete

Ps.... Sorry for the delay in responding ,had to fly to Japan on short notice
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: handi2 on August 11, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
It's like the China made 113h reels with SS yokes, bridges, and other parts. The SS used will rust so keep it greased up.
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: akfish on August 11, 2015, 06:17:17 PM
I've found that the "stainless" steel in the Chinese Penns has a proclivity to rust. This is especially bad in the drag stack: If you don't grease the drag washers, you'll likely find the drag stack rusted together after a season or two on the water. I see that frequently in the Chinese 320 and 330 reels. The solution is simple: Do a preservice that includes Cal's Drag grease on the drag washers.
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: Bryan Young on August 11, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Welcome Pete.  Where abouts are you located?

Traveling to Japan...life it tough...I would love to go back to Japan.  There was a fishing rod there that I wish I bought.
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: handi2 on August 12, 2015, 12:14:22 AM
Quote from: akfish on August 11, 2015, 06:17:17 PM
I've found that the "stainless" steel in the Chinese Penns has a proclivity to rust. This is especially bad in the drag stack: If you don't grease the drag washers, you'll likely find the drag stack rusted together after a season or two on the water. I see that frequently in the Chinese 320 and 330 reels. The solution is simple: Do a preservice that includes Cal's Drag grease on the drag washers.

So true..!! I have had to dig them out a few times. Also the stud on the bridge rust's much worse than the USA models. Many times the gear sleeve is rusted on badly.
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: PeteC on August 12, 2015, 08:48:07 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 11, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Welcome Pete.  Where abouts are you located?

Traveling to Japan...life it tough...I would love to go back to Japan.  There was a fishing rod there that I wish I bought.

Cheers guys, using my gear on the kayaks i find they do get drenched due to beach launches and just being down close to the water,
so maintenance is a priority
I can say that its not only Chinese stainless (parts and bearings) that suffer
Bryan i'm located in Queensland Australia, my trip to Japan was on short notice (6 hours) work only unfortunately, to rectify an ecu problem with a Nissan Skyline R35
that i built for a customer, took all of 20 minutes, but thats how it goes sometimes
The customer paid, so apart from no sleep etc, one of those things

Cheers Pete
ps.  If any one has a fully kitted 501 they want to sell and ship to OZ cheap, i'll give it a good workout ;D
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: foakes on August 12, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
Some of you may think this is stupid or maybe even blasphemous -- but here is what I do with Chinese Jigmasters and 209s, etc...

Particularly when doing multiple units or charter work -- I buy 6 or 10 new Jigmasters locally for $66 or less each plus tax.

Use the parts I need to repair the ones coming across the bench -- make sure everything is greased up very completely -- strip down the new reels -- use the parts as needed.

This is much cheaper than buying individual parts from mail order sources -- plus, all of the parts left over (around 80% of the reel) are all new, and mostly pure profit.

If in doubt, check out the price of a spool, drag stack, handle, sideplate, ring, gear, jack, yoke, etc., etc...if bought separately.  Or just a LW assembly on a 209, plus a spool and drag stack, maybe a gear set -- that is more than the cost of the reel -- and I have a lot of NOS parts left.

Won't work for the average guy doing 1 or 2 -- but it works for me.

Lets face it -- these are not your grandfathers Penns -- they are just tools that need to get back on the water -- quickly and efficiently.

And it never hurts to have boxes of parts already paid for by someone else -- makes business sense.

Just my opinion based on what works for me.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Chinese built jigmaster 500l
Post by: Alto Mare on August 12, 2015, 09:51:32 PM
Nothing stupid here Fred, I'm with you on this one. It will also work reversed, as when selling a reel with many upgrades. You would do much better if you break that reel down and sell the parts.