Just thought I would share my method for making Carbontex drag washers from sheet stock.
I finished putting this video together today, maybe someone will find it useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzcUPS-6YJ0
Really nice job. I'll remember that, especially the part about running the drill bit in reverse.
-steve
Running in reverse may not be necessary with a small hole but the center hole on these are pretty large. You could start with a small hole and work your way up, but drilling in reverse saves the hassle.
Very nice tutorial. I'm going to have to try it sometime.
Thank you for the video.
I am forced to take my CF sheets to the laser cutter to have them cut out my washers.
Quote from: Keta on May 09, 2017, 02:07:32 PM
Thank you for the video.
I am forced to take my CF sheets to the laser cutter to have them cut out my washers.
I am sure that makes a much nicer finished washer. This makes for a pretty good finished washer. Not NASA tolerances but we aren't sending a man to space here either!
Just out of curiosity, what does having them laser cut cost? I hope you don't mind me asking, but I just have no idea what something like that would cost.
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 09, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Just out of curiosity, what does having them laser cut cost? I hope you don't mind me asking, but I just have no idea what something like that would cost.
$0.50 a piece but they have cut 3 sheets for me no charge. The laser cuts Delrin nice too.
Well that seems very reasonable!
Quote from: Keta on May 09, 2017, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 09, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Just out of curiosity, what does having them laser cut cost? I hope you don't mind me asking, but I just have no idea what something like that would cost.
$0.50 a piece but they have cut 3 sheets for me no charge. The laser cuts Delrin nice too.
Sweet.
This process takes approximately 15 minutes from start to finish for me. I stack them on the screw and do them all at the same time. I did one in the video as an example. It isn't hard to do but I am sure if you have a person who can laser cut it in your area for that sort of price that would be the way to go. I live in a fairly small town so I doubt there is anyone nearby that offers laser cutting services, but I do think I will check around just in case.
We need to know how to do these by hand and most of us do not have access to laser and water cutters. I have had poor success with cutting Delrin, lots of cracks.
Quote from: Keta on May 09, 2017, 02:43:11 PM
We need to know how to do these by hand and most of us do not have access to laser and water cutters. I have had poor success with cutting Delrin, lots of cracks.
I have worked with Delrin on my metal lathe, it cuts nicely with high speed steel tooling. It also turns nicely on a wood lathe with high speed steel chisels. They also make special plastic cutting drill bits that don't dig in the way that drill bits made for wood and metal do.
I have a set of Forsner drill bits but the sizes I have do not always match the size I need. I grind the OD of CF and Delrin with my belt sander.
Quote from: Keta on May 09, 2017, 03:02:27 PM
I have a set of Forsner drill bits but the sizes I have do not always match the size I need. I grind the OD of CF and Delrin with my belt sander.
An inexpensive beam type of circle/hole cutter is adjustable to any size in its range of adjustment and makes a very clean cut if used in a drill press at a slow speed. They don't work well with a hand-held drill. I own a Mibro one that can be found on Amazon that works well for my purposes. What size holes are you needing?
I prefer using a drill press when I can and have 2 in my barn, a large one on the floor and a small one on my bench.
Look into beam type hole cutters. They are available in different sizes, you may find one that will suit your needs. The cutters can be reversed to cut either circles or holes with a clean edge.
I have one in the lathe tooling that was with the small lathe I tried to restore.
Here is a link to my instructable that goes into more detail on the process of making these washers: https://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Carbontex-Drag-Washers-From-Sheet-Stock/ (https://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Carbontex-Drag-Washers-From-Sheet-Stock/)
This is the one that I use, adjustable from 1" to 6" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C00ZRK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C00ZRK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Excellent tutorial, Kevin!
You do a great job of explaining.
Not sure if this other small detail I do when using your technique, was explained, or not?
When stacking a spindle-full of drag washers together -- one can generally use the SS or old brass drag washers as a guide -- providing they are not eared or keyed.
Just install a couple on both ends of your stack to be filed before chucking it up -- tighten the nut against the stack -- this gives you a non-moving target for the file -- plus the template from the original drag washers insure a quick and accurate job completion the first time.
Drill press or lathe works best -- however with this last technique, even a hand drill will result in a perfect CF washer quickly and accurately.
Thanks again!
Your tutorials are very professional.
Best,
Fred
That would work well too. This one had flats on the hole for the metal washers that weren't tabbed so they wouldn't fit onto the screw. The screwhead being the same size was just shear luck. I would consider cutting a screwhead down and just using it as a jig for making future washers for the same reel or if you have multiple reels. You could do the same with a nut as well. That is if your metal washers won't work out for you as a guide of course!
Great tip, thanks!
For making Carbontex washers for odd reels a lot of us use the double punches from this company. You can punch many without having to take them out of the punch. I punched 5 just a few minutes ago for a Fin Nor 30H star drag reel. 5/16 x 1 1/2.
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I would love to have a set like that but my wife would kill me!!! ;D
Looks like a really nice set!
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 08, 2017, 10:02:49 PM
Just thought I would share my method for making Carbontex drag washers from sheet stock.
I finished putting this video together today, maybe someone will find it useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzcUPS-6YJ0
Neat work there, I do the same thing with my washers. The only difference I do is use hole saws a little bit larger than the size I need, and I then sand to size. Good stuff.
Quote from: handi2 on May 09, 2017, 05:20:48 PM
For making Carbontex washers for odd reels a lot of us use the double punches from this company. You can punch many without having to take them out of the punch. I punched 5 just a few minutes ago for a Fin Nor 30H star drag reel. 5/16 x 1 1/2.
That hole punch kit is appealing. What do those retail for?
Old post butt.
Just open a commercial account with Dawn at Smooth Drag
Keith