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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Ambassadeur Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: hultis on February 18, 2013, 01:29:57 PM

Title: Upgrading 10000CL
Post by: hultis on February 18, 2013, 01:29:57 PM
Hi everyone, I have an Ambassadeur 10000CL which I believe is from 1995 or 1996. It's a great reel but the drag is horrible. Very jerky and the opposite of smooth.

I'm going to upgrade the reel with carbontex washers. Those of you who have gone down that path with a 10000 - or any of the bigger Ambassadeur's - will the improvement be as big as I hope for?

Sorry for the crappy language.

/Christian
Title: Re: Upgrading 10000CL
Post by: Tile on February 18, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
I did the carbonfiber  drag washer upgrade on a Banax OW 7300 because the drag was low. The main benefit with carbonfiber washers is smoothness. For the complete effect the carbonfiber washers need to be greased with Cal's or Shimano drag grease. A good drag stack will save your reel from failure in an extreme situation.
Title: Re: Upgrading 10000CL
Post by: Bryan Young on February 18, 2013, 05:09:53 PM
Hi Christian, 

Welcome.  Not only your Ambassadeur 10000CL could use drag improvements, but all older Ambassadeurs.  Many of them I have serviced have these rubber type material for drag washers, which are sticky and jerky and prone for you to leave your drags loose or risk breakoffs due to the jerkiness of the drags.

Please be sure to use drag grease is not required for a smooth operation, but if there's moisuture present in the drags, then they will become jerky, and that is why using good drag grease, including but not limited to Cal's, Shimano, Daiwa,...is very important.

Good luck and if you run into any trouble along the way, contact us here and I'm sure there is someone on this forum that will be able to help.

Aloha,
Bryan
Title: Re: Upgrading 10000CL
Post by: alantani on February 18, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
you will be amazed at the difference.
Title: Re: Upgrading 10000CL
Post by: hultis on February 18, 2013, 07:10:26 PM
Thanks a lot for the feedback. I am definitely going with Carbontex and a good drag grease. A funny thing is that I contacted the Swedish service office in Svängsta - where the reel is assembled - and they could not install Carbontex or anything similar. They said that they would use the original washers made from leather and bakelite. I could hardly believe it. Leather and bakelite, but that's what they said.

I live like 1,5 hours drive from Svängsta and ABU headquarters.

/Christian
Title: Re: Upgrading 10000CL
Post by: hultis on February 20, 2013, 08:21:18 PM
Update!

I replaced the old drag washers with Carbontex today. Followed the EXCELLENT tutorial here on the forum and really surprised myself by getting it right. The difference is amazing. Much smoother and much more powerful. Will spool on some fresh braid tomorrow and take her fishing on Saturday. Must say I am really happy to have found this forum, otherwise I would never have figured out how to improve my 10000.

/Christian
Title: Re: Upgrading 10000CL
Post by: Bryan Young on February 20, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Glad we could help.