So, I'm on the boat today, catching some decent Sea Bass, Ling and even a Fluke. I wenbt out today after a long stessful overnight, and I wasn't even really feeling well. But I needed to break my stress so I headed out to the docks and went fishing. But, it is embassing that even after all these years, I still can't seem to get the darn fish off the hooks with any efficiency. On the boat, when fish are hitting, that is not the time to be wating fighting with a Ling that has a hook stuck in its tongue. And those things are slimy and hard to hold. Meanwhile, the mates come in and whip whip whip, the fish is off the hook!
I even had a Sea Bass that was hooked on the lip that I couldn't unhook for beans today. Some of it was pure exhaustion, but some of it is just incompentence. There has to be a technique to this.
Ruben
Ruben
It takes practice to get speed at what you want. Sometimes I have a problem if the hook gets in a tough spot in the fish. You need a good pair of pliers & a Hook Degougher. Stella Maris or your favorite place Bernie's has the tools that you need. I'll be on Pier 6 Sat. & Sun. morning.
Get a pair of long nosed pliers.
When I was in the army, these guys would get shot from behind the lines.
Ruben, that's some pretty dark stuff there. :( seriously , you can't control these people on a PB. Theythinkbecause they're paying for it they own the right to do whatever they want. Sometimes when you add tooooo much alcohol the situation just becomes worse. Best thing and safest in some cases is to just move away from them. Especially if the boat isnot all that crowded. Or another option may be to wear a helmet and goggles.lol ;D
Bob
Try pushing the hook away from the bend and slipping it out, I remove hundreds of hooks a year when "playing" deckhand on the charter boat and can't even think how I do it.
Have a spare rod handy for when you get in tangles with other fishermen.
always wear a brimmed hat to protect your eyes from hooks.
Good point.
Ruben, here is the little I know about human nature. You cannot control the actions of others! You can only control your actions and how you would like to be treated by others. Weather the latter actually happens the way you want it to remains to be seen. In 30+ years on PB's I've seen some scary stuff. Some learn and some you just can't teach a thing. This is all that I can expect. In most cases you can offer some insight and encouragement and more times than not it is taken. When it's not,it's your actions which will define you. Have fun and like Keta suggested. Bring a couple extra outfits with you( which I know you do, I've seen your prior posts) cut your line when tangled bad, and continue to fish.
Tight lines, Bob
You have said everything except -- You didn't tell the Captain or the Mate. That is why I just do the cooking & do not come on deck.
Mike
Ruben
I don't know what to tell you. The Bay has always been a rough place but now the novices & internet fishermen are taking over & they don't care about the next person.
Mike
He means literally away from the bend. Most people try to "spin" the hook backwards so the point takes the same path as when in entered the skin. When you do that you allow the barb to work the way it is supposed to and keep the hook set. This is basically mimicking what the fish does and so it is a good thing that it doesn't work.
If you grab the hook by the eye and top of the shank and hold the fish in such a way that you can push the hook toward the bend (about 4:30 in the picture you provided) the bend holds the hole in the fish open for the barb and point to pass through and so there is nothing that gets caught. If the fish is hooked through the tongue then this normally means using pliers and pushing the hook INTO the fish. I know this sounds counter intuitive but believe us, it works.
I am not sure if a ling where you are is a ling where I am, but if so they have a lot of teeth! Even so the best way to hold them still is with a good landing glove by the lower jaw. I have found that this is like putting a rabbit on it's back, the fish calms down and lets you work.
The mates do this for a living, they are kind of a high standard to strive for. I guess there is nothing wrong with that.
Hope I helped,
Ron
Grab shank, push down toward point and barb, slide hook out.
Yah, what Lee said.
Ron
Very glad to hear it!
Ron
I've done something similar. I take a loop of line mono or whatever, and pass it thru the bend. Push down on the eye and pull on the loop. If it's all the way through cut off the barb instead. Bob
Quote from: mrbrklyn on July 04, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
I put some of this advise to use last trip and had some better results....at least with porgies.
Ruben, if trying to quickly unhook fish, there are some really good dehooker( if that's a word) on the market. I've used one for the past couple of years cAlled the ARC dehooker. Google that name and you'll get a bunch of options. Basically it does the same action that everyone here has described. It pushes down on the shank of the hook allowing for easy hook removal. Really good for unhooking fish that have swallowed the hook.best of luck.
Bob
My mistake. I was talking about getting a hook out of a person. >:( I agree with a good dehooker. Bob
Bob, I changed my mind, i'm not sharing a boat with you ::) ;D
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 05, 2013, 09:20:54 PM
Bob, I changed my mind, i'm not sharing a boat with you ::) ;D
You are right Sal, he invited me too. Dominick ;D ;D
I think the worst is an ear piercing, the silly anchovie didn't seem to care for it either. :o
Ron
If you guys get a hook thru the flesh, you will wish you had Bob. ;) A few years ago while camping & fishing off the Baja beaches all the gringos had alum boats. One day the fisherman next to me (while fishing alone) had hooked himself with a 6/0 hook in the thigh of the leg and had no tools on board. I got some wire cutters and cut the hook and the shank came out easily. A little medicine and he was as good as new.
Tom T
Hey things happen. I would be honored to remove a hook from Sal or Dominick. It's either that or we have to stop fishing. ;) Bob
Quote from: Cone on July 06, 2013, 03:35:34 AM
Hey things happen. I would be honored to remove a hook from Sal or Dominick. It's either that or we have to stop fishing. ;) Bob
Since you put it that way, I'd leave a hook in Sal to keep on fishing. :-* ;D Dominick
Quote from: Pescachaser on July 06, 2013, 03:45:42 AM
Quote from: Cone on July 06, 2013, 03:35:34 AM
Hey things happen. I would be honored to remove a hook from Sal or Dominick. It's either that or we have to stop fishing. ;) Bob
Since you put it that way, I'd leave a hook in Sal to keep on fishing. :-* ;D Dominick
;D ;D
Takes more than a hook to stop me from fishing.
Cut my hands a few times in the past, some duct tape to stop the bleeding and right back to work ;)
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 06, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: Pescachaser on July 06, 2013, 03:45:42 AM
Quote from: Cone on July 06, 2013, 03:35:34 AM
Hey things happen. I would be honored to remove a hook from Sal or Dominick. It's either that or we have to stop fishing. ;) Bob
Since you put it that way, I'd leave a hook in Sal to keep on fishing. :-* ;D Dominick
;D ;D
Takes more than a hook to stop me from fishing.
Cut my hands a few times in the past, some duct tape to stop the bleeding and right back to work ;)
My kind of guy. You have to love a manly man. :-* :-* :-* :-* ;D Dominick
Hey Sal, I bet that duct tape wasn't fun to pull of when you got back to the dock :o ;)
Use a hook out and long nose pliers... I have never needed more for fluke, blues, stripers, or anything else we catch in Brooklyn with the exception of threshers and the other sharks out here (dusky, brown, etc.)
PS- Stella is way cheaper than Bernies... take a look at Bernie's reel prices compared to online, $50 more for a 113H (around $200 :o)
All the best,
Dom
Hey Sal, you ever try crazy glue? Works great if it's handy.
Bob
Quote from: broadway on July 06, 2013, 05:56:22 PM
Hey Sal, I bet that duct tape wasn't fun to pull of when you got back to the dock :o ;)
Use a hook out and long nose pliers... I have never needed more for fluke, blues, stripers, or anything else we catch in Brooklyn with the exception of threshers and the other sharks out here (dusky, brown, etc.)
PS- Stella is way cheaper than Bernies... take a look at Bernie's reel prices compared to online, $50 more for a 113H (around $200 :o)
All the best,
Dom
Dom, I'm used to pain. ;) Just two days ago a 2 1/2 inch finish nail came out of the trim the wrong way and into my finger, it still feels numb today.
As you know, I've been in construction for over 37 years, I've pulled many splinters out of my hands using a utility knife. ;D
That reminds me, I think I up for a tetanus shot, it has been a while. :-\
Man, that all sounds pretty darn painful... I never understood how you guys could hit your thumb with a hammer, poke a hole to release the pressure under the nail, and continue to hammer away for the rest of the day.
I think you and Dominick should come out on the boat for a "testing drag pressure" day... I'll drive, Dominick could hold the rod, and you can swim away from the boat with a hook in your mouth to simulate the real thing ;) ;D
PS- get that tetanus shot!
Dom
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 06, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: Pescachaser on July 06, 2013, 03:45:42 AM
Quote from: Cone on July 06, 2013, 03:35:34 AM
Hey things happen. I would be honored to remove a hook from Sal or Dominick. It's either that or we have to stop fishing. ;) Bob
Since you put it that way, I'd leave a hook in Sal to keep on fishing. :-* ;D Dominick
I carry Electricial Tap on the P. B. I work on. A peice of Paper Towel & 3 Wraps of Tape. There are very few people coming back for a new bandage compared to Band Aids.
;D ;D
Takes more than a hook to stop me from fishing.
Cut my hands a few times in the past, some duct tape to stop the bleeding and right back to work ;)
superglue. stings a little at first, but holds up pretty well for small cuts.
Quote from: alantani on July 08, 2013, 04:50:17 AM
superglue. stings a little at first, but holds up pretty well for small cuts.
Just make sure the salt water is out. Gluing salt into a cut is not only asinine, it also NEVER stops burning.
Ron
that is actually a very good point!
Which will be the better option.
To create another hole by first cutting off the eye of the hook?
Or sacrifice a bit of flesh on the bard by pulling the hook out the way in goes in?
I normally try to yank it out with the barb first and if all else fails I'll push it through and cut the barb. Hasn't happened many times.
Ron
Luckily, I haven't been hooked yet and I'd like to keep it that way. That reminds me, I need to get another good set of wire cutters.
The way I remove them normally keeps the barb from catching. It's also painless. I've never felt anything when I've removed a hook from someone else. ;D ;D Bob