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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn - Vintage => Topic started by: sdlehr on April 07, 2016, 02:13:07 AM

Title: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: sdlehr on April 07, 2016, 02:13:07 AM
Post questions about this reel in this thread
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: sharkman on June 25, 2016, 02:26:01 AM
Anyone ever seen a 149 without star? If so are they rare?
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: foakes on June 25, 2016, 05:09:44 AM
Yeah,

Kinda rare if it is a late 30's 249 W/plastic spool and old type handle with no star.

Got a pic?

Some of these were made for L.L. Bean.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: sharkman on June 27, 2016, 12:20:38 AM
Foakes must be old has yardage on stand instead of part number. See pics
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: foakes on June 27, 2016, 12:44:59 AM
Hi SM --

The experts on these reels would be Michael, John, and Lee.

I do not know as much about the little details to know if it is original, or has had a couple of parts switched out over the years.

Looks to be in very good condition -- the experts will be along shortly.

Thanks for the pics

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 27, 2016, 06:12:29 AM
QuoteAnyone ever seen a 149 without star? If so are they rare?

Yes and they are much harder to find than a more common 149 with the star drag. Look at page 79 of my Blue Book to see the reel you have in the catalog scan. The 149 was made without a star drag for 1939, 40 and 41. In 1942 the star drag was added to the reel and it stayed that way. The early reel you found is a very difficult version to find. You made a great score!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%2049%20and%20349%20reels/Figure%20152%20-%20Copy%20519%20x%20777_zpshbvm4dju.jpg)
Scanned from the 1939 catalog.
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Maxed Out on August 11, 2016, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: Penn Chronology on June 27, 2016, 06:12:29 AM
QuoteAnyone ever seen a 149 without star? If so are they rare?

Yes and they are much harder to find than a more common 149 with the star drag. Look at page 79 of my Blue Book to see the reel you have in the catalog scan. The 149 was made without a star drag for 1939, 40 and 41. In 1942 the star drag was added to the reel and it stayed that way. The early reel you found is a very difficult version to find. You made a great score!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%2049%20and%20349%20reels/Figure%20152%20-%20Copy%20519%20x%20777_zpshbvm4dju.jpg)
Scanned from the 1939 catalog.

Cool info Mike, is it ok to assume a 149 with waffle click and no star is from 1939 ??
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Penn Chronology on August 12, 2016, 06:48:33 AM
QuoteCool info Mike, is it ok to assume a 149 with waffle click and no star is from 1939 ??

I would think yes. The one pictured in this thread has a Hershey Kiss clicker button and is probably the 1940 or 41. A waffle clicker would logically be the early model.
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Swami805 on September 13, 2016, 11:50:48 AM
Greetings, I picked up an older 149 recently, it's has a drag star, hershey kiss clicker coin edge counter weight and nothing stamped on the foot. I took it apart to clean it and there's no dog spring. Anyone know which dog spring it uses? Thanks
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: birdfin on September 13, 2016, 06:24:38 PM
I'm adding another question to the string.  I've got a 149 that is missing the torpedo grip.  Does anyone know if any of the ones I see on EBay would work as a replacement?
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: George4741 on September 13, 2016, 11:33:23 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on September 13, 2016, 11:50:48 AM
Greetings, I picked up an older 149 recently, it's has a drag star, hershey kiss clicker coin edge counter weight and nothing stamped on the foot. I took it apart to clean it and there's no dog spring. Anyone know which dog spring it uses? Thanks

Penn Part # 14-60. 
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Swami805 on September 14, 2016, 02:45:14 AM
Thanks George just saw that was busy fighting my phone
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Maxed Out on December 12, 2017, 06:57:30 PM
 No collection should be without a 149

A very respectable survivor can easily be had for less than $20

The tail plate scene has 4 boats, which is the most you'll see on any Penn. Must be an all out bite going on !!

The one here with the green knob was $15.99+ shipping
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: broadway on December 12, 2017, 08:06:07 PM
As always, some of the shiniest reels on earth! Also, love that vented spool. 8)
Beauties worthy of your plinth for sure.
Enjoy them,
Dom
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Swami805 on December 13, 2017, 04:00:23 PM
I gotten a few for very little money really just for the handles. Seems that fit gear sleeves on many small reels and more cranking power with that long blade. Also the handle lady must have liked them lots of cool colored knobs. I've gotten a few for about half the price of a handle alone. Also have a few nice ones in my collection. Really nice reels and they must have made a lot of them.
Those are some beauties you have there Ted
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Recoil Rob on April 19, 2019, 04:04:42 PM
I have a 49M SuperMariner that I bought new about 35 years ago. I've seen lots of posts about the 49, 49L, but nothing about the 49M. 3.5:1 retrieve (NOT 3.25:1, I checked), two levers, chrome spool. I used to pull wire line with it and haven't done that in years. I cleaned it up and boxed it many years ago, in great condition. Thought I might like to use it again for deep bottom fishing with braid.

I've been reading here that the 49 series had the 4/0 drag system, rather small. I have also read that the 349 series had the 6/0's larger drag system but, I believe, to upgrade my reel I'd have to upgrade to a stainless main gear and sleeve. I'd be upgrading from 3+1 to 5+1?

I see that I can get the 349 metal washers on Ebay, where can  I get the stainless main gear and sleeve? Is that all I'll need besides the 5 drag washers themselves?

So much info here that...

(https://i.imgur.com/msR4PcT.png)
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: RowdyW on April 19, 2019, 04:27:09 PM
First off the 49 is more like a 3/0 in the drag system & a 349 is like a 4/0 system. 349 washers will not fit in a 49, they are a larger diameter. A 349 main gear will not work in a 49. Maybe get a 349 & work from there with a 5 stack using 113H CF drag washers.         Rudy
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: akfish on April 19, 2019, 05:25:24 PM
The 49M is the same as a 49 and 49L except that it was designated "M" to indicate it had a metal spool. Some very early 49s had plastic spools. The 49 hasn't been made for several years, but the last ones that were made had aluminum spools. The drag washers in a 49 are almost as large as the drag washers in a 114H, but there are only 3 not 5 as in a 114H. I still see lots of 49s up here in Juneau. Many have warped spools because the original metal spools did not handle mono line very well.
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Recoil Rob on April 21, 2019, 07:04:44 AM
OK then, thanks men.

Re: the metal spools warping with mono, will the same happen with braid?
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Maxed Out on August 31, 2019, 03:33:15 AM

Can it be true ?? A 149a ??.....

.....it surely ain't a fairy tale !!

....same as a blonde yorkie....ain't no fairy tale neither  :D :D
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: AC49 on August 31, 2019, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: Maxed Out on August 31, 2019, 03:33:15 AM

Can it be true ?? A 149a ??.....

.....it surely ain't a fairy tale !!

Come on Ted ... only 1 picture ??
We need more  ??? ???

Regards
AC49
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: Crow on August 31, 2019, 12:11:49 PM
Please....don't tease :o!
Title: Re: 149, 149L, 149M Mariner
Post by: broadway on August 31, 2019, 06:58:32 PM
Now that's one good looking pooch ya got there, Ted!
For some reason, I bet your Yorkies can put reels together too.  ;)
Dom