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Fishing => Setting Up Your Reel to Go Fishing => Topic started by: tristan on March 06, 2015, 10:29:58 PM

Title: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: tristan on March 06, 2015, 10:29:58 PM
For those that have some experience fishing from shore for mid-sized sharks, say up to 4 or 6 feet, do you think the Penn International 50t is up to the task?

How would you set it up for shore sharkin'?    

Thanks,

Tristan
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Newell Nut on March 06, 2015, 10:39:32 PM
It was not long ago that someone posted a nice beach shark caught with a Penn 209.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 06, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
Tristan,
I say the 50T should be up to it. I'd spool it with 60lb Mono.
Just make sure you use a cable or wire leader. Shark Skin is tough and will slice right through that Mono.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 06, 2015, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 06, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
Tristan,
I say the 50T should be up to it. I'd spool it with 60lb Mono.
Just make sure you use a cable or wire leader. Shark Skin is tough and will slice right through that Mono.

I am setting up a reel for cow tuna and shark fishing. Daron would I need a wire leader for 120lb mono or is that thick enough to hold up for sharks.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 06, 2015, 11:20:12 PM
If its a perfect hookset in the corner of the mouth, you should be good, but if He can get at it with his tail, He will cut you off.
These are some of my smaller rigs. 480lb cable, then a sliding trace of 400lb mono that the weight slides on.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24731_zpscd9ff8c9.jpg)
This is my biggest rig. Its a Gama 14/0, with #22 wire. 
All double crimped with 2.2 copper crimps. 6/0 Rosco Swivels and stainless thimbles.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24741_zps34a058f8.jpg)
Making Leaders isn't hard and it gets expensive buying premade ones. It takes hours and hours of prep to make sure everything goes right when you need it to.
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Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 06, 2015, 11:23:26 PM
Man that those hooks are A LOT bigger than Im use to! I would prob do a premade as I rarely ever do that kind of fishing. You should sell your own premades.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 06, 2015, 11:28:35 PM
Big Jaws need Big hooks!
Its just like building a reel, the problem is getting all the parts together.
Crimps, Crimper, Swivels, Cable, Wire, Thimbles, Hooks. And the final ingredient. Time!
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Three se7ens on March 06, 2015, 11:50:35 PM
I use 6'-8' 300 lb mono for my shark rigs, with a steel bite leader about 8" long.  I typically toss the mono after a big shark, as the mono can get pretty chafed.  Haven't had any break-offs or serious wear, it just looks like someone took sandpaper to the leader.  Biggest shark was a 10' tiger shark.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 07, 2015, 01:04:45 AM
I have caught big sharks from a boat on a number of different gear styles, and can contest there is a definate advantage to having large, high-capacity 2-speed reels (and a boat), but not sure what would be best from the sand.  The larger senators are certainly up to the task.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Nuvole on March 07, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
Those cunning ones tends to do the roll, fast ahead then chew off the nylon.
A high speed reel with single strand wire on the bait leader will help.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Jeri on March 08, 2015, 06:10:28 PM
Hi Tristan,

We would assume that you are not casdting the bait to the sharks??? Otherwise the 50T will be a handful to get any appreciable distance.

Here we cast to sharks in the 5-8' range, and generally go no bigger than 30 (Shimano) or 50 (Diawa) series reels. Braid as backing, then 40lb nylon ending in a 1.00mm casting leader and 3 ft of 135lb wire. But then we are casting all this with 14' rods.

Otherwise you might find a lot of different reels that will work, you just need capacity to stop the first run, which in our case is generally no more than 400 yards - then they turn, and the fight is on!

Cheers from sunny Africa,


Jeri
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: tristan on March 08, 2015, 10:27:11 PM
Jeri, I was thinking of using a kayak to take the bait offshore.

The specs I've seen rate the 50t at 525  yards 50lb mono, so should be enough line.    If I do 80lb spectra of about 500 yards, might be able to get 300 yards of 50lb mono on top.  That would give me some leeway if a real bruiser took the bait.

Something I've always wanted to try, time to do it and stop thinking about it.

Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 09, 2015, 02:41:35 AM
I wish you luck Tristan. Its not that hard. Once you catch your first one. You will be hooked. ;)
My baits of choice are Mullet, Bluefish, Bonita and Stingray. Good Luck to you.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: tristan on March 09, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Newell Nut on March 06, 2015, 10:39:32 PM
It was not long ago that someone posted a nice beach shark caught with a Penn 209.

That's either luck, or skill.    Perhaps a bit of both!

How big was it?
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 09, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Looks like at least a 6 footer!
Quote from: Tightlines666 on November 18, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
Photo of the month candidate here?

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Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Nuvole on March 09, 2015, 11:08:48 PM
Good catch! The thought of getting hook out of its mouth is scary.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 09, 2015, 11:18:39 PM
Get yourself an ARC long handled pigtail dehooker. 
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: anglingarchitect on July 02, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Don't get near those teeth, is all I know about shark fishing. I don't even try to remove the hook from most sharks I release.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: handi2 on July 03, 2015, 12:43:42 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 09, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Looks like at least a 6 footer!
Quote from: Tightlines666 on November 18, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
Photo of the month candidate here?

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That's one of our local fishing freaks..!!
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Lowprofile on August 08, 2015, 01:05:44 PM
its overkill.

this thing didn't even make the 50 sweat. 50lb mono. Don Riniker.

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anything under 8ft. cast to them!   this should convince you. tight lines and have fun!
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Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Dominick on August 08, 2015, 09:52:26 PM
Hey that guy is standing in shark infested water.   :D Dominick
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Lowprofile on November 22, 2015, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: Dominick on August 08, 2015, 09:52:26 PM
Hey that guy is standing in shark infested water.   :D Dominick

would you believe we swam and speared out baits during the afternoon then ran them out to the same area we were swimming.  :o  the best is when you arrive late and go in to spear rays at dusk and the bulls come check out the ray your bringing in.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Ron Jones on November 22, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
So,
I am a light gear fisherman at heart, but I have brought in 4-6 foot long spoon tails on mitchel 300s in the surf. When I look at an International 50 I get the impression that it can pull down the Empire State Building. Others here do this more than me but I'm certain a Int 50 will handle anything your likely going to get hooked into.

Hope you have a good time.
Ron
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: anglingarchitect on May 27, 2016, 02:18:14 AM
We caught a 6 footer off the beach with a Penn 750 with 20 lb mono. when i was a kid.my dad did brake the knob off the handle, which made the fight tuff for my dad.
I waded out and dragged it onto the beach by the tail.

50 international should catch most sharks.

Mark
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: ScottOz on January 13, 2017, 11:19:51 PM
That reel would would certainly be up to the task.We got a 7 footer off the beach on a tld 25 with 30lb mono.Also just set up a tyrnos 50 with 500yds of 100lb braid and about 200yds of 80lb mono as top shot.Got a 8.5 footer on its first trip with ease.
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: spc7669 on January 14, 2017, 02:48:35 AM
There is a balancing act with land based shark fishing. I do a lot with a surf rod and a Shimano TR200G and a Torium 16. 60# JB hollow with a 40# big game topshot. Even smaller fish are fun on these.
I use a 9/0 for bigger fish and it'll skull drag smaller stuff, which is not as much fun.
Daron is targeting once in a lifetime sized fish and his gear is damn near perfect for dealing with those. That 50 is capable of handling some big stuff. If those are your targets, you should be well covered.
I hope to see some of your pictures with a giant or two! Best of luck

Patrick
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 14, 2017, 09:06:05 AM
If I had more time to do it Patrick, It would be a reality, but with only two or three weeks a year on the sand, I do the best I can. Hopefully 2017 will be my time.
I am thankful for all I have. Just the chance is all I ask for.
God is Good, and so is Life! ;)
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: spc7669 on January 14, 2017, 10:12:49 PM
I feel you on the time. And big fish wouldn't be so special if they were easy to catch. When you get your 10+, you'll have plenty of fans here to cheer for the trophy pics!
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: tristan on January 20, 2017, 08:17:41 PM
This is the year, Daron!

Hopefully, for you and me both.

This spring I'm planning on spending some time on the sand with my 50t, hope to connect with a decent sized blacktip at least...
Title: Re: Shark from shore - Penn International 50t up to the task?
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 20, 2017, 11:31:56 PM
Counting the days.
Best of luck to you.