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Title: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility
Post by: mangrove on April 17, 2017, 07:29:38 PM
I have some light tackle spinning reels I'd like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility:

Shimano Symetre 2000FG & 2500FI

Cabela's prodigy 2500 (actually a version of a Daiwa Capricorn 2500A)

Daiwa SS2-2500C

These are all felt washer drags that I would like to have a lighter startup with.

Question, I see that several new reels are using carbon washers with an ID greater than the shaft, like a donut. Is there an advantage to this vs. a full circle disk?

Thanks folks!
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer
Post by: oc1 on April 17, 2017, 09:43:45 PM
The drag washers with a large I.D. usually have a domed compression plate.  So, even if you use a drag washer with more surface area the compression plate will still make contact only at the edge.

Carbontex will allow you to increase the drag pressure.  However, the felt washers often provide enough pressure while making the drag very smooth.  Try it both ways and then decide.
-steve
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility
Post by: foakes on April 17, 2017, 09:56:40 PM
One can also just impregnate the felt washer discs with synthetic oil or Cals drag grease aa the result will be steady smoothness at all levels from lightest to lockdown.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility
Post by: mangrove on April 18, 2017, 01:45:03 AM
Quote from: foakes on April 17, 2017, 09:56:40 PM
One can also just impregnate the felt washer discs with synthetic oil or Cals drag grease aa the result will be steady smoothness at all levels from lightest to lockdown.

Best,

Fred

Oh well, so much for that idea, I'll guess I'll have to find something else to tinker with!  :P
Custom paint jobs for the reel housings?
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility
Post by: Cone on April 22, 2017, 02:25:08 AM
Don't give up. I have a few reels that I swapped the felt washers for carbontex. Just measure them and replace them with carbon fiber. Penn washers will probably be the most economical but Dawn at Smooth drag can help you match something up. On an older Shimano I have I had to  order washers with the right outside diameter but I had to drill out the inside to fit.   Good luck!
Bob
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on April 22, 2017, 09:42:36 AM
It is still worth upgrading to cf. It probably won't give more drag but when greased with Cal's it will be smooth and predictable. In my experience it also lasts longer and requires less attention. All of my felt drag reels have had cf fitted. I cut my own washers from a sheet it's a lot cheaper ;)
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility
Post by: Gfish on April 22, 2017, 04:41:43 PM
What these guys said. Also, I've read somewhere here that long hard runs on the drag can burn the felt washers.
Gfish
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility
Post by: handi2 on April 22, 2017, 05:25:07 PM
Whenever I get one in with felt they go out with Carbontex. Dawn has them for the Shimano. You will have measure the ones from the other reel. She will have them too.
Title: Re: some spinning reels I’d like to investigate for carbon drag washer compatibility
Post by: handi2 on April 22, 2017, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Gfish on April 22, 2017, 04:41:43 PM
What these guys said. Also, I've read somewhere here that long hard runs on the drag can burn the felt washers.
Gfish

Yes they will burn up. Especially on a fish like a Jack Cravalle. One of my inshore customers I take care of pulled up to my dock, ran into the shop, and grabbed a set for a Shimano Ci4 3000 that just got burned up from that fish.