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Title: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 24, 2021, 09:25:48 PM
Hi all,
Thought ya might be interested in a recent trip out to the King and Middlesex Banks and Three Kings Islands last month.
I'd second-guessed posting a report a few times, given many of you are doing the hard yards with COVID lockdowns and winter in full swing, but Rick and Logan convinced me it'd be a good idea.

I booked this trip after my son was born, but one thing and another kept getting in the way and delaying the trip.
He turned 16 before I actually got on the boat...

I love heavy jigging, so my aim for the trip was do that primarily while on the King and Middlesex Banks, with a bit of topwater thrown in when we were close to the Three Kings Islands and the Princess Group.

The boat is a 17m (56ft) custom build called Enchanter and is moored at this time of year at Mangonui in the Far North of the North Island.

It's a 12hr steam from here to the islands, and the banks are four hours further out, north-east and north-west respectively.

Bait was thin in Mangonui Harbour, so we headed south two hours to Whangaroa Harbour on the evening prior to fill the livebait tanks.

Whangaroa is a massive, incredibly beautiful harbour, with a slim entrance between high cliff walls.
The Japanese were planning to set up their Pacific base there if they'd won Guadalcanal, so there are remnants of US-built gun emplacements on a variety of strategic promontories.
Fortuntely for us, these guns saw no action!

It was a good 14-hour steam north from Whangaroa to the Three Kings, but it was all done at trolling speed, so we had gear out pre-dawn and were transfixed by the spread as we chewed through the miles.

There was lots of sea life - it's been a particularly active summer this year - with free-jumping marlin, a giant sun fish and several sizeable pods of pilot whales smashing bait schools at speeds high enough to send rooster tails off their heads.

Not long after sunrise, we had out first striped marlin in the gear.
It was only a wee one, about 65kg (~140lb), so he went straight back with a tag.
Another followed and thrashed a lure as I retrieved it, but failed to hook up.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_46_345651713.jpeg)

A long-period swell at about 4m (12ft) was running out of the southwest, with a 30kt nor-wester cutting across it, so our first night at the islands was 'dynamic'.
Fortunately we weren't in our bunks long, as we headed out to the banks at about 4am the next morning.

The wind across swell made for some fearsome chop out in the open water, with faces up to about three metres (10ft).
But the fishing was hot and my only concern was not toppling over the side as the boat lurched wildly on the drift.

I pulled a 37kg (~82lb) king pretty early on, but he got a little nuzzle from a massive bronze whaler right at the boatside, so he didn't count.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_3_03_43.jpeg)

The conditions were pretty testing, particularly on the foredeck where I was, so everyone else on the boat opted to fish bait/livies from the cockpit.
Tackle-wise, I was using an Accurate Obsidian 600NN with 300m of PE8 multi-colour X8 braid on a JigStar Ninja M/H PE4-8 rod.
I was dropping 800g (~28oz) jigs 10-12 colours (100-120m / 320-400ft) more than 200 times a day while out there.
Definitely not for everyone, but I love it!

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_46_345671391.jpeg)

Day two was more of the same, but we also did some deep-drops into 250+m (820+ft) for wreck fish - primarily hapuku, bass, bluenose and king tarakihi.
We pulled some truly epic bass from the depths...

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_47_34569524.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_47_345701289.jpeg)

I used my Shimano BeastMaster 4/0 custom with 600m of PE10 braid on a heavy Jigging Master rod and pulled this 35kg (77lb) hapuku.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_47_34571193.jpeg)

More hapuku...

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_47_345722165.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_47_345731617.jpeg)

Bluenose were also prolific and are one of the finest table fish in New Zealand waters.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_48_345741144.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_48_34575896.jpeg)

While the jigs produced the most fish on day one, everyone was into hog kings on day two.
The below pic captures one of the finest experiences one can wish for, I reckon.

Your rod can't touch the rail in NZ though and there's certainly no 'railing' fish here.
You'll get mercilessly abused (and the skipper will threaten to cut your line) if your rod touches it!

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_48_345761004.jpeg)

A few more examples of the fish taken on day two - all in the low to mid 30s (~70-80lbs).
They get over 50kg (110lb+) out here, so there's still work to be done!

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_48_345771290.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_49_345782087.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_49_345791895.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_49_34579156.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_49_345812181.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_49_345812362.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_50_345831461.jpeg)

The best thing about chasing big kings out here is that they all go back.
We generally only keep the deepwater species that get the bends and die on the way up...

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_50_34585795.jpeg)

One funny thing happened while stickbaiting back at the islands.
Debbie gave me a big, new Bonze stickbait for Christmas that I was looking forward to trying.
It proved irresistable to the fish and we were into a few more modest-sized kings to round out another big day.

One of them had a bit more fight in it than the others and really put the hurt on my rod.
After fighting me around the boat, it went straight down like a steam train and the rod snapped clean through at the base.
The thing went off like a gun and the rod shot down the line to the fish (as it was still connected via the line guides).
Amazingly, the PE10 braid held and - over the next 10-odd minutes - the deckie and I managed to handline the fish to the boat, retrieve the broken rod and get a quick pic before release.
It was a hugely satisfying moment, despite the breakage.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_50_345831173.jpeg)

The rod company asked me to bring the rod in for examination and they reckoned it broke fair and square, rather than 'failing' as such.
As a result, not only did they warranty the rod, they also upgraded me to the top-of-the-line, heavyweight version at no cost.
Outstanding service from Composite Developments (aka CD Rods/Okuma NZ).

On the long steam back to port, we once again deployed the trolling gear.
It was about 5am and everyone was sound asleep - except for me and one other early riser.
All of a sudden, we had a triple strike of bite-sized yellowfin!
One dropped almost immediately, but the two of us landed the other two in short order and capped off the trip absolutely perfectly.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_2_59_51_345851085.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/34/3590_24_02_21_3_04_35.jpeg)

There's been basically no yellowfin in NZ waters for decades - the last one I caught was in 1988.
But, much like the winter bluefin run, they've been returning in modest numbers over the past couple of years.
To catch a bluefin in winter (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=31609.0 (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=31609.0)), then a yellowfin in the summer has been an amazing blessing.

Righto, that's about it.
I'm heading way offshore again in a few months, then back to the Three Kings next summer, so there might be some more stories to come - the gods willing...
Hope it was of some interest.
All the best, Justin
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: MarkT on February 24, 2021, 09:32:37 PM
Wow, some real trophies there!  My best YT is 45# and I'd love to get one twice that size!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: thorhammer on February 24, 2021, 09:32:58 PM
Holy crap, son, that's the biggest report we've seen in a good while! Don't be holding out on us, mate!!!! Well done!!!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 24, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Haha, thanks John.
There were lots of pics taken (none by me), so I figured I'd share 'em...

45's a great fish Mark, nice work! They definitely put ya to the test!

Cheers lads
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: thorhammer on February 24, 2021, 10:14:53 PM
Oh, and it looks like you're well recovered the motorbike spill, good job!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: mhc on February 24, 2021, 10:24:49 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Bill B on February 24, 2021, 10:52:43 PM
Epic trip Justin!   Great report......Bill
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on February 24, 2021, 11:00:01 PM
Trip of a lifetime!  Thank you for the fantastic report and photos.  It was the next best thing to being there.

We catch kingfish here in California too!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Crow on February 24, 2021, 11:04:54 PM
Wow ! :o What a trip !!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 24, 2021, 11:22:39 PM
Thanks all - it was 16 years in the making, so I was very grateful to finally get out there!

Yeah John, it's amazing what good surgeons can do these days!
The brain injury isn't recoverable, but I'm grateful for small mercies.
Cheers mate
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: boon on February 24, 2021, 11:43:32 PM
Great stuff, looks like an awesome trip.... basically ticked every possible box for a 3 Kings adventure. Marlin, YFT, hog Kings and plenty of deep sea beasties.

It's very high up my to-do list. Just deciding between that and Ranfurly (why not both, right?)
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Ron Jones on February 24, 2021, 11:54:17 PM
Those Kings!
My favorite eating fish, I would have a hard time sending them back down, fantastic to see such a healthy fishery.
Ronald Jones
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 12:51:18 AM
Thanks lads.

Ron - As it happens, out of the species on offer, kings are pretty low on the table list. Topping it would definitely be King Tarakihi.
I'd never tried it before the trip and it's leapfrogged all other species, taste and texture-wise.

Boon - I'm heading out to Ranfurly in Nov, so will give you a rundown on the relativity after that.
As I think we might have talked about before, the trips are shorter as there's much less travel time - which has got to be a good thing.
I've only fished there in winter, but the conditions were hectic and I've heard summer's not much different, so that's a consideration.
Will find out soon enough I s'pose!

Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: steelfish on February 25, 2021, 01:01:51 AM
ayayayayay caramba !!

whatta trip, speachless amigo, please post all your NZ adventures anytime of the year
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 01:15:06 AM
Cheers Alex - will do.
Hopefully it won't take another 16 years to make the next one happen!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Benni3 on February 25, 2021, 01:38:59 AM
Oh my,,,,, :o fantastic trip man that's a reel boat load,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: conchydong on February 25, 2021, 01:42:31 AM
Very nice fishing on some monster fish. We have some similar species in the Atlantic in very deep water. The  Hapuku (Wreckfish) and the Bluenose (Barrelfish). Love to see fish from the other side of the world.

Scott
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 02:41:59 AM
Thanks lads.

Scott - that's really interesting. Seeing pics of them, they do look very similar.
Here in NZ, the hapuku is only really a deep-water fish because of fishing.
In places that have little fishing pressure, they're still common in the shallows.
Bluenose, on the other hand, is a proper depth fish - apparently swordfish love 'em!

Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Swami805 on February 25, 2021, 02:46:59 AM
Dang that's quite a trip, those would eat the yellowtail we catch here.  No small fish in that pile, incredible
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Maxed Out on February 25, 2021, 02:56:22 AM
 Wow Justin, great report and awesome pics of your trip. Big waves and heavy wind makes deep dropping a lot tougher. Kudos to you guys and a very salty skipper !!

Ted
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 03:24:41 AM
Spot on Sheridan, and those were just a few of the highlights!

Cheers Ted - I love being out in the blue water and the conditions only added to the experience.
The skippers on these trips always seem to be salty old dogs and this one - Rhys - was no exception!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: oc1 on February 25, 2021, 05:03:25 AM
Man Justin, that was worth more than a 16 year wait.  Once in a lifetime stuff there.  Congratulations.  Maybe that what happens when you've been a good dad.
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Cor on February 25, 2021, 05:10:42 AM
Amazing the different species and size you guys have there.

NZ probably has some of the best fishing in the world.

Well done!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on February 25, 2021, 12:52:12 PM
WOW :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Donnyboat on February 25, 2021, 05:00:55 PM
Thanks for taking us along Justin, good variety of fish, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 07:52:12 PM
Cheers lads - hope all's well with you and yours
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Dominick on February 25, 2021, 08:10:45 PM
Justin, that was an epic trip.  High seas and big fish.  I can do without the high seas though.  Tell me about the boat holding your reservation all that time?  Dominick
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 08:43:42 PM
Hi mate, NZ's a small, generally pretty casual place. I just checked in with the owner, Lance, from time to time...
It wasn't until I had the aneurysm 18 months ago that I thought, 'Right, I really need to make this happen!'  :D
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: steelfish on February 25, 2021, 09:16:34 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on February 25, 2021, 02:46:59 AM
Dang that's quite a trip, those would eat the yellowtail we catch here.  No small fish in that pile, incredible

LOL my exact thought too, those Kings will have our Baja YT as breakfast any day

maybe because Im tiny this YT looks like a big fish LOL now that it looks like a bait fish in NZ
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: wailua boy on February 25, 2021, 09:42:01 PM
Yeah buddy!!!!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 10:47:07 PM
Haha, a king's a king regardless of the size - that's a great fish!  ;) ;D
Looks like a nice Alex Custom next to ya?
Cheers lads
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: steelfish on March 04, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: redsetta on February 25, 2021, 10:47:07 PM
Haha, a king's a king regardless of the size - that's a great fish!  ;) ;D
Looks like a nice Alex Custom next to ya?
Cheers lads

yep thats my Superman rod I built few years ago, its great rod but I would like to try those new tech jigstar ninja rods one day on the "big" local YT
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=27213.0


Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on March 04, 2021, 09:01:35 PM
Ah yes, love that rod - great work Alex.
Can't believe that was two years ago!
Time flies when you're... in a pandemic!  :'( :D
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: steelfish on March 04, 2021, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: redsetta on March 04, 2021, 09:01:35 PM
Ah yes, love that rod - great work Alex.
Can't believe that was two years ago!
Time flies when you're... in a pandemic!  :'( :D

tell me about it, when I was posting the previous answer I was like " I built that rod last year" then I realized I have (everybody have) a year lost, like if everything was on "pause", but this is not the place to get deep into that,  back on the topic, from time to time I search for 3-kings videos on youtube, its amazing to see one of the at.com members actually fish there and caught some of those monsters, a bucket list trip for sure.
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: Smols on March 05, 2021, 02:34:29 PM
Hey Justin, That's an epic trip, for sure. I'm curious how you boat those big kings for release. Massive nets?
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: jzumi on March 05, 2021, 03:11:14 PM
Awesome report!

A silly question:  How exactly do you get those large kingies aboard for a picture before release?  I don't imagine you use a net or a gaff.
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: mo65 on March 05, 2021, 03:15:29 PM
Fantastic fishin'!!
Title: Re: Chasing monster kings in New Zealand
Post by: redsetta on March 07, 2021, 10:46:37 PM
Hi Smols/jzumi, apologies for the tardy reply.
Wherever you are on the boat (I was always on the foredeck), once you've got the beast under control, you had to work your way back to the cockpit.
The deckie would then grab the fish by the mouth (ie the lower jaw specifically, never the gill plate) and drag it up onto the rail, and rest it - centred - there to remove the jig.
Though they'll kick around a bit as they're being lifted, for some reason they quieten right down once resting on the rail.
If it's a 'personal best', the deckie will get you to hold the fish for a photo, before spearing him headfirst back into the ocean.
While it seems like there were lots of photos, easily 80%+ of the fish caught went back without a pic (or into the chiller if a wreck species).
The gaff only came out for the yellowfin and a net was only used to retrieve livies from the transom tanks.
Cheers, Justin