Does it mean , if I set the drag 9lbs at strike it will automatically be 14 lbs at full ? (with the same preset)
Not necessarily. It depends on the profile of the drag cam in your reel. Try setting it so that you get 9 at strike then see what that gets you at full. Be careful setting an Avet'd drag above what it's rated for!
Most likely you will be over the 14 lbs at full if you set your SX thru MXL at 9 lbs at strike. IMO it should read 9lbs at strike or 14 lbs at full.
Thank you! MarkT and SoCalAngler
I usually set strike to be the drag I want and don't go over that. If you want 14 at full then set the it to that and then see what you get at strike.
Manufacturers recommedations for lever drag reels are there for a reason. Exceeding them will cause damage to (usually) pinion and left spool bearing. If you feel any 'tightness' when cranking then likely the preset is to high. If the max is specified as 10lb strike 20lb full I will usually go with 8 and 18 - there is usually a marked difference in feel - but little/no difference in actual performance - and you preserve your bearings ;)
If you need need way more drag get a bigger reel ;D
Yes Chris, we tend to get carried away with carbon fibre drag gear, looking for higher drag numbers, when really we should be looking for, smoother drags that dont wear out, to heavier drag, and you fine something has to give aventualy, cheers Don.
Will it okay with the reel( MXJ classic which manual said max drag 9 lbs at strike and 14lbs at Full ) if I set the drag 11-12 lbs at strike and NEVER go to Full position.
First , why.
Second, you will most likely destroy a pinion bearing if/when the reel gets pushed to full.
Fish the reel within it's specs.
Quote from: Keta on June 22, 2018, 12:50:21 PM
First , why.
Second, you will most likely destroy a pinion bearing if/when the reel gets pushed to full.
Fish the reel within it's specs.
Thank you for your reply :)
Actually Im just curious because
12lbs is within maximun drag range of the reel and in case I want the drag at 12 lbs that's mean I have to push the lever to Full position (because manual allow only 9 at strike) so I just wonder what if I set 12 at Strike and NEVER go to Full will it damage the reel?
the avet sx and mx series reels (plain, not raptor), will fish just fine with a 30 pound topshot and 9 pounds of drag at strike. if you have a big enough fish and you have to go to full, by all means do so. if the pinion bearing is damaged as a result, fix it later. just land that fish first!
Thank you :)
Just set it so that you have 12# at full then when you go to strike you know you'll have head room if you need it. The MXJ is one of my favorites!
Quote from: MarkT on June 22, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
Just set it so that you have 12# at full then when you go to strike you know you'll have head room if you need it. The MXJ is one of my favorites!
Thank you MarkT
I always thought that the 9 pounds at strike advertised meant that the reel should get 9 pounds at strike and still maintain freespool. Anything more is bonus but should get 9 minimum. And you end up with around 14 at full. So....30% of 30 being 9...the reel is a 30 pound reel max. Set the reel at 9 and up the lever to full to finish off a tired fish without worry.
Ok guys just did some testing with my newer model SX. I set the drag at 8 lbs at strike, then when I then moved the lever just barely past strike I got right around 10-10.5 lbs of drag. I tried testing half way from strike to full and get around 14 lbs, this number varies a bit due to not getting the lever in the exact position every time. At full I'm getting right around 16.5-17 lbs.
I did this test several times just to make sure the numbers I was getting did not vary.
So as you can see in this reel and just like most other lever drag reels the drag pressure ramps up way faster after you move the lever past strike.
Edit: I did my testing with a new Chatillon 50 lb spring scale that I calibrated before hand with a known 25 lb weight source and tested the scale again after the reel test with the same 25 lb weight source to make sure the scale had not changed, which it had not.
Quote from: SoCalAngler on June 22, 2018, 08:17:39 PM
Ok guys just did some testing with my newer model SX. I set the drag at 8 lbs at strike, then when I then moved the lever just barely past strike I got right around 10-10.5 lbs of drag. I tried testing half way from strike to full and get around 14 lbs, this number varies a bit due to not getting the lever in the exact position every time. At full I'm getting right around 16.5-17 lbs.
I did this test several times just to make sure the numbers I was getting did not vary.
So as you can see in this reel and just like most other lever drag reels the drag pressure ramps up way faster after you move the lever past strike.
Edit: I did my testing with a new Chatillon 50 lb spring scale that I calibrated before hand with a known 25 lb weight source and tested the scale again after the reel test with the same 25 lb weight source to make sure the scale had not changed, which it had not.
Thank you this is very good info for Avet user
Quote from: Donnyboat on June 21, 2018, 06:44:12 PM
Yes Chris, we tend to get carried away with carbon fibre drag gear, looking for higher drag numbers, when really we should be looking for, smoother drags that dont wear out, to heavier drag, and you fine something has to give aventualy, cheers Don.
Ding ding ding!!! This is what's it is all about. I go for smoothness over power, anyday anytime!
Now to answer the question
Avet's one of the best manufacturer when it comes to given specs especially the drag power. What S 9.0 and F 14.0lbs means is usually with your drag preset at Max Free Spool, this is the number you'll get. But there's a few variables in place; condition, wear n tear, compressibility of the drag washer (especially with glue in play at the drag washer in the modern gens). So the numbers are more of a guideline. You'll get some variation as explained by a few members here
I would say always set your drag with the max number you need at Full position so you'll never overdrag, but this could some time result is lower than desired at Strike. In this case you're probably underclassed in the reel size. But some do set the desired drag at Strike, and they stay at Strike and never push to Full to avoid damage. The preference is yours, but do keep in mind that if you go over the recommended rating, you'll be more likely to bust the pinion bearing.
I also see a lot more SX size have problems with the pinion bearing, two reasons; sometimes it's pure mistake of owners trying to get more out of a small reel, or it could also be the drag preset should be set some few clicks looser than Max Free Spool.
I'm investigating one SX at the moment, the owner has busted the pinion bearing twice, so this time I wanna find out what's the real cause. Will update if I find anything interesting.