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Title: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 15, 2012, 02:46:13 PM
So after loking online for the Studio ocean mark reels for a long time I fell in love with the limited edition Ota garage L50 reel. After some time I was able to track it down and ordered one. A shop in japan called Veinz sent me the reel and I am now the proud owner of number 81 out of 150 total produced. I was leaving for a halibut trip the day after I recieved the reel so I was excited to test it out.

I always open my reels to see what makes it tick and this was no exception.

the package I recived came in with a nice small plastic padded bag, schematics, economizers (for thinner lines), registration form from SOM, and a sticker.

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The reel looks stunning, notice the nice carbon fibre handle arm and drilled reelhouse:)

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a nice narrow spool, holding approx. 250meters of JB 60 solid with good room for a windon

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the reel detaches easily by removing three flat head

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the main body has a flanged bearing inside so there is no need pulling it out from the inside. This bearing is ofcourse packed with grease.

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the three main parts disassembled, very easy configuration, SOM also provides spare spools for around 130usd, very easy to change a spool for other line choices.

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The spool width is 24mm almost all the way.

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now comes the part that I was most sceptical to. the cork drag washer. It is made of cork but reinforced with a mix of resin and heat treated. This washer works great with cal's drag grease. and feels buttery smooth. also see the clicker on the spool, this is hands down the best clicker I have ever had, if you want a louder sound you can install two more clicker pins and the clicker will be beefed up. the clicker only makes a noise once drag is pulled.

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The spool is solid and includes two retainers three bearings a bearing sleeve and a spring for that cushion like feeling and for the protection of the bearings inside. I will flush these bearings in tsi 301 for great freespool.

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the spool shaft is made of titanium and the drag plate is made of aluminum and stainless steel. the cam houses a bearing and is a typical proven lever drag configuration. this bearing will also be packed with grease.

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here you can see the aluminum drag plate with engraved grooves for the clicker pin, there is also a strong spring and a inner sleeve to only hit the inner diameter of the bearing. The strong spring makes binding impossible :)

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the main gear assembly is made of stainless steel

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once you remove the handle and it's assembly assembly you can push out the whole main gear shaft and main gear. two washers, a rubber seal from prevention intrusion into the anti reverse bearing and the two other bearings and a felt washer (pretty much the same system as a JM reel, it gives very light cranking and winding and is very stable with no play at all.

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once the main gear assembly is out you get to access the right side plate bearing and a look into the anti reverse bearing from INA germany, this bearing is also used in alutecnos and JM reels and alot more high end reels. Now a big surprise for me was that they use a angular contact bearing. this is superstrong against sideloads (when the inner diameter bearing gets pressure once the drag is engaged many right side plate bearing gets crushed. happened to my JM pe 4 three times already!!!)

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the handle arm is made of carbon fibre and is from axis to axis 90mm long, this gives tremendous cranking power. The fisnish on the handle is amazing (also notice that they have filled the gaps with stainless steel sleeves to accomodate the security handle screws, this will prevent the crisp carbon fibre to get torn apart if you tighten it to hard.

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the handle knob is the best knob I have used, fits my hand perfectly and measures the same as JM and ultimate jigging knobs at 45mm. This handle knob includes two bearings and two seals.

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The reel

weight. 450 grams!!!
ratio. 4.9:1
max drag: 10kg with 0,5kg increase per click on the lever and 1kg when pulled into full.
11 bearings in total, one is AR
cap. 280m of pe6, 400m of pe4, 350m of pe3
price: I paid 1350 USD!!!

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/hafnor/DSC_0178_zps592cb1b7.jpg)

I tested the reel for halibut a week ago and it was great in the beginning. First of it is the best reel I have ever fished with and wind with, it palms perefectly and it is light, the knob is a perfect size for my hand and the long carbon fibre arm gives an incredible cranking power. The drag was silky smooth just like when you have a newly greased carbon fibre drag system, buttery smooth!

However, as I suspected and like many fly fishermen have experienced before me, the cork drag washers are no good once it gets wet, and it does get wet no matter how! after the second day fishing I hooked up to a smaller 50 pound fish.... in the initial run you can feel a slight twitch in the drag. I knew then that the cork was slightly swollen for moisture and the surface was uneven. It got better towards the end but the disk has to completely dry for it to work flawless again. Except for that the reel is perfect. I will make a update once I aquire some new carbon fibre washers and possibly a new dragplate. I will also post a video with the reel in use and a fish hooked in the other end.

likes:
build quality
attention to details
narrow spool
long CF handle
EVA handle knob
large oversize gears
light weight
clicker mechanism
small size reel with asymetrical frame
well spec'ed dragwise for it's size (none of that 60lb max drag junk)
good warranty

dislikes
price!
availability for the reel and it's parts
cork drag washers and aluminum drag plate

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/hafnor/D7C_5882_zps11f71df7.jpg)

video of the reel in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wlfVflcz5zk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wlfVflcz5zk)

Best, Thor
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: saltydog on October 15, 2012, 02:56:28 PM
Nice fish.
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: Bryan Young on October 15, 2012, 04:01:18 PM
Thanks for the write up Thor.  Well, even with the price and cork drag, you still pulled in a monster fish.
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: redsetta on October 15, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
Great review Thor - and much appreciated.
It's a beautiful bit of gear.
Sounds like you'll be changing over to their CF option, which should make it pretty close to faultless (aside from the eye-watering price tag ;)).
QuoteI hooked up to a smaller 50 pound fish....
Nice ;) ;D
Cheers mate, Justin
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 15, 2012, 08:58:05 PM
thanks guys, it is a beautiful reel indeed and a beautiful fish :) will post a report from the trip soon
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: Cone on October 15, 2012, 09:25:07 PM
Great review, probably as close as I'll get because of the price. I wish the flounder in the gulf got the size of that halibut!  Bob
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: Alto Mare on October 15, 2012, 11:30:47 PM
Hello Thor.  Not really creazy about that reel, doesn't do much for me, but that's a nice looking fish. That acid wrap rod looks sweet also. Thanks for showing, Sal
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 16, 2012, 01:48:56 PM
the rod is a synit kaha 250g acid wrapped. very nice rod indeed!
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: johndtuttle on October 16, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
Thanks for the look at some state of the art machinery Hafnor :).
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: redsetta on October 16, 2012, 08:19:25 PM
G'day Thor,
How'd you manage to get a Synit rod all the way from NZ to Norway?
They're great rods - kaha means 'strong' in Maori...
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 17, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
Thanks John! I got in contact with Graeme of synit NZ and he fedexed it over. took 4 days :)
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: redsetta on October 17, 2012, 12:05:16 AM
Now that's service!
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: raumati01 on October 17, 2012, 06:44:37 AM
Nice fish mate, catching a Halibut like that is on the bucket list .
Very cool to see the Synits in Norway ,I have two Synits- a Grey Ghost 111 and a Deepshot seriola elite. http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/synit-deepshot-seriola-tackle-tester-review_topic62925.html
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 17, 2012, 08:16:59 AM
we caught several halibuts this summer/autumn from 20-170 pounds. Thank you for the nice rod review RaumatI01, the synit's are the best of the best. I plan on buying a spinning 200g to match my stella and a 100g for large coalfish at a later time :)

Pictures added (saw that some were missing) Otherwise as an update I may have located a metal shop that can make me a drag plate out of stainless steel. so I will update you on the new drag setup as soon as I get it.

Best, Thor
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 17, 2012, 08:35:34 AM
a video of the reel in action on my halibut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wlfVflcz5zk
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on October 17, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
nice, thanks for sharing...
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: alantani on October 18, 2012, 06:19:42 PM
i saw the video.  it looked like fun!  what kind of camera were you using?
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: redsetta on October 18, 2012, 07:54:50 PM
GoPro?
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 19, 2012, 02:26:19 PM
Yes, we use a lot of gopro cameras, we use chestymounts, suction cups, headband etc with the camera. really neat little camera that is fully waterproof!

some other videos from us using gopro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UATA4yFmlcE&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLH3AI5ql5s&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GDKvZ6V1M

halibut with hookup on tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiaZih0NP88

large coalfish fishing from the summer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXQDl3kwmM&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzXYYAgFPB0&feature=plcp

Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 19, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
I have just been in contact with a metal shop that makes customized parts for hydraulic machines, he said that the only problem would be the price of such a part. He will investigate more and if the price isn't too bad hopefully I can get a new stainless steel drag plate. Once dawn is back I will order a new drag washer too. this can get exciting. Will keep you posted.
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: alantani on October 19, 2012, 04:16:43 PM
i'm guessing that a change of the drag washer alone will dramatically improve the performance of the reel.  concentrate on the drag washer first, then see if you need to make any other changes.  chances are you'll be very happy after that one upgrade. 
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 19, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
yeah! I figured that too, I will try carbon fibre drags first. I made a post for dawn but she is on vacation. I have contacted a NZ based SOM supplier, maybe they can help me. otherwise it might be a little thick? 1,73mm

btw. I was very happy to see what I believe is a angular contact bearing in there. the bearing has quite a bit of sideplay! I have never seen one before. It is very small and I believe they have contact with a local japanese bearing manufacturer that makes them. I will try to contact them for other sizes angular contact bearings. I haven't found one yet for another reel that I have
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on October 19, 2012, 05:40:27 PM
hey, thanks for the youtube comment Alan! :)
Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: hafnor on January 05, 2013, 09:25:57 AM
so I put two 1mm CF washers on top of each other. Thank you Justin for hooking me up with CF sheets! now the original cork was about 1,7-1,85mm thick (the cork is soft and has a cushion effect therefor the different measurements) On the bright side the retainer was able to keep them both in place making so the drag plate wont pull the washer with it ones it goes into freespool. on the darker side it was such a tight clearance with the retainer that the ID of the top CF washer pulls itself a tiny bit towards the drag plate (away from the spool) Now if the drag plate is in contact (drag engaged) the logical thing would be that it will get squeezed onto the spool (against the bottom washer) and there is enough clearance for freespool (fourtanetly)

Now the machine shop is mapping the aluminum drag plate so I will not be able to test it before I get the new plate made from stainless steel. It should arrive any moment now. Then I will run some tests and see how it goes, and take it from there. Best.

as you see. I think the result came out pretty nice. The washer on the right is the "ugliest one" and is to be used in the bottom, the one in the middle will be my new washer.

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greased and ready for its drag plate, SS or aluminum

(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/hafnor/IMG_0769_zpsc9ed8704.jpg)

Title: Re: SOM Blue heaven L 50 OGM OTA garage review
Post by: redsetta on January 06, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
Great job Thor - glad it all worked out.
Looking forward to seeing how the rest of the story unfolds.
Cheers, Justin