A member here posted up a 14/0 a while back on the cheap. Nobody bit.
I bought it for $250. I couldn't help myself. This old Girl is in great shape for that amount.
A little spool shimming and polishing. A Keta Krank and Kokelar grip. Adams insert with Tom's ss sleeve and the double dog treatment should breathe new life into this Bohemoth. ;)
Nice one Darron - look forward to seeing the end product.
It looks like it's gonna eat that Squidder like a Cheezit. Very nice piece!!!!
That's actually a Monofil 25.
Notice the bushings.
It still looks like a cheezit. :D
I was looking at on phone , I see it now. Big girl looks line pac man at lunchtime lol
I finally got around to working on this old girl.
Of all the old 14/0's I have laid my hands on, this one needed some serious work.
Everything was kept well greased on the inside, but the tests of time have took a toll on her.
Every single piece of this reel needed some attention.
I tore it completely down and the drags were slick. I almost thought they were Delrin for a minute.
The spool has some corrosion. I pulled out all my tricks. Chrome Polish, Never Dull, A overnight soak in simple green and then the Mothers Polish was the best I could do to bring it back to life.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4319/35751615270_a3fbe4fa5b_b.jpg)
So it begins.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4316/35336017133_7d567b02e3_b.jpg)
Double dog complete.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4296/36102940476_d6c53cd9d3_b.jpg)
I have no idea how old this reel is. If I had to take an educated guess, it is older than me. This bridge is showing some serious patina.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4324/36143278265_dd41806a74_b.jpg)
The original bearings are toast. The more elbow grease I put into this, the more I want to make this reel a flash from the past.
New Bearings, All new screws, Stainless Sleeve and Insert with double ss dogs.
Brand New stainless gears.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4327/35336161433_520ddc9854_b.jpg)
Those 14/0 springs will test your sanity.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4303/35975356082_5abfb18f01_b.jpg)
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(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4292/36103030016_67038615bf_b.jpg)
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I spent at least 8 hours on this refurb. I will fish it with confidence. ;D
Nice job Daron!
Great before and afters, and I know what goes on in between. I just finished up a late 40s 14/0 (actually in remarkably good condition for its age), and an old heavily used 14/0 I picked up for next to nothing (needed alot of parts). It is satisfying seeing the end results though. You're plate cuts look good. I have one I have to do one of these days. Keep sharing the pics, I for one enjoy them.
As John has said, keep sharing these refurbs.
What's the collection total at now?
Beautiful work Daron . I'd say Otto would definitely order one if he could.
Quote from: Superhook on November 28, 2015, 10:53:26 AM
Beautiful work Daron . I'd say Otto would definitely order one if he could.
Yep, if you were around during Otto's reign he would hire you in a minute. You would be know as Daron, the Wizard of Philadelphia. :) Dominick
That's one sweet main gear and drag stack Daron. :o You can't put a value on time spent bringing such a reel into the modern era. End result is the fish better run and hide. :D Nice job Daron.
Thanks Guys.
This one turned out really well.
I love it when its done right the first time and no need to double check anything.
Just a tip, if anyone does a double dog on these. Those springs can make you say some things you don't normally say. I've learned some duct tape can be your friend here.
Get the springs and dogs into position and tape them down. Tighten the bridge screws and pull out the tape before final tightening. After you pick them up off the floor several times, it makes it much easier. ;D
Instead of using duct tape, these might make it easier
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0020%203.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0020%203.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0022%202.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0022%202.jpg.html)
Also, if you angle the opposite side of cut out, as shown on the right, it will help push the spring inward instead of out
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/DSC_0024%203.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/DSC_0024%203.jpg.html)
Great idea Sal :)
Great work! That's one heck of a reel. Not being used to seeing large reels in person, just this week I was checking out an okay shape 4/0 with Tiburon frame at a tackle store for $80. Tempted to pick it up, but was a little thrown off by the size.
I remember a drawing you posted of that Mod early last year.
Are those sleeve pins with a press fit?
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/118_zpsda580011.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/118_zpsda580011.jpg.html)
Yup! Hole size 5/64, pin from the large gear sleeves.
I'm not knocking you or anything like that, I think you came a long way with these reels. I just want to mention that your cut outs are still a little wide, good, but still a little wide.
Here is one of mine:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/015_20.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/015_20.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/017_18.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/017_18.jpg.html)
you could clearly see that mine is narrower, a narrow grove will also help with the spring.
If you wanted to take a closer look, you should have that plate on your bench ;) ;D
That looks like it came from the factory like that Sal.
No two of my plates are cut the same. I just sit the Gear sleeve in the middle and freehand it.
I need to get those bits you showed me. I have them on my watch list.
The ones I'm using are not as precise, but they remove material in a hurry.
I always appreciate any constructive criticism coming from you. ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on November 29, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
That looks like it came from the factory like that Sal.
No two of my plates are cut the same. I just sit the Gear sleeve in the middle and freehand it.
I need to get those bits you showed me. I have them on my watch list.
The ones I'm using are not as precise, but they remove material in a hurry.
I always appreciate any constructive criticism coming from you. ;)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_3076_zpsyxcpmplz.jpg)
I still have to buy a set of those bits as well. I have yet to double dog a reel. I think I have a broken 14/0 headplate I might practice on first. I was thinking it would be cool to have a jig made to aid with this process. Honestly, I haven't had many requests from customers for a second dog on the 12 and 14/0s, and I guess I haven'y been pushing the upgrade. I already spend too much time on each reel service. Maybe if I had a jig, and could bust one out in under 30mins, I might offer the upgrade option for $15+parts or so? I should probably double dog a personal reel first though.
John, this is custom work and you're doing a reel with the head plate costing anywhere from $50 to $75, if you do a 16/0, I won't even tell you what that plate will cost to replace.
15 dollars for the second dog is low, I wouldn't go any lower than $25 + the cost for the dog.
Daron, don't blame the tool, I've seen the beautiful job you did for Tom's plates, so I know you could do it if you wanted to.
Take your time, what's another 5 minutes ;)
Quote from: Alto Mare on November 29, 2015, 09:53:19 PM
Yup! Hole size 5/64, pin from the large gear sleeves.
I'm not knocking you or anything like that, I think you came a long way with these reels. I just want to mention that your cut outs are still a little wide, good, but still a little wide.
Here is one of mine:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/015_20.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/015_20.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/017_18.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/017_18.jpg.html)
you could clearly see that mine is narrower, a narrow grove will also help with the spring.
If you wanted to take a closer look, you should have that plate on your bench ;) ;D
Beautiful work Sal.
May I ask?
Do you cut those freehand?
Do you make a depth stop or Jig?
thanks.
Free hand and check frequently.
Here are the bits I use with my dremel, these last a long time:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130885906276?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
These bits do not cut anything that vibrates, so no worries if one touches your skin.
They're similar to the ones the Dentist uses in your mouth.
Sal
Alright,
The bit set is ordered.
John, the plate cutting isn't that difficult. Like Sal said, it would be expensive if you ruined them.
I don't look at it that way. I guess because I have cut dozens of them.
Sal taught me everything. Maybe that's why I feel so confident. ;)
I got into Sal's reel he sold me a while back. I let Tom H have the sleeve for his work that he does for us.
I noticed a few things that I haven't been doing on my reels.
The first is that the springs are cut to relieve a lot of the tension that I have been having trouble assembling without the use of duct tape. No tape was needed on assembling this reel from the Master.
Tom's ss sleeve and double dogs from Lee. Standard stack with Brass gear.
One of the dogs is shaved to make it alternating. It makes a lovely sound. ;D
All finished except for the handle and arm. This arm came with the reel, but the handle fit doesn't suit me.
Too much play for my liking. These handles are pretty available, but the bearings need oil and none of the screws have Loctite on them. I'm happy to put in back in the box for now.