I would like to be in a position to give Tiburon an order(s) for a new project(s) when they return from the lockdown, hopefully on May 1. I would really appreciate it if you would please provide your input for any new frame/spool kits or encore editions for any previously run kits for Penn or Newell reels only. I know that Daiwa and Shimano make some great reels, but it's enough drama developing new products in an area that I am reasonably familiar with and I am not up to a whole new set of challenges. I have to order 50 units of any new designs or 30 units of any items that we have run previously, so it requires a significant level of interest to give me the courage to belly up to the bar.
Here are a few of the previous projects that proved popular and might be worth running again. If any of these might be of interest, or if you have any suggestions for new items that are within Tiburon's product range, please post them here. I am not asking for orders, just trying to identify areas of interest. Thank you for your support. Without the Alantani.com ohana behind me, none of these projects would have been possible.
Thanks again,
Randy
Penn T4XN extra narrow kit (1 5/8") for the Penn 113H, etc.
Penn T3N narrow kit (1 5/8") for the Penn 112H
Penn P21XN and P21XN-HS extra narrow kit (1 1/4") for the Penn Jigmaster, Senator 1/0 and Jigmaster 505/506HS
Penn P16XN extra narrow kit (1 1/4") for the Penn Squidder
New: P100XN extra narrow kit (1 1/4") for the Penn Surfmaster 100, 150, 200 and Monofil 27, etc.
Penn 808/SJ extra wide (3") for all 300 series reels except that Blackie series.
Newell N322XN extra narrow (1 1/4") for all 300 series reels except that Blackie series.
Newell 808 extra wide (3") for all 300 series reels except that Blackie series.
Newell N220XN extra narrow (1 1/4") for all 200 series reels except that Blackie series.
P100xn and p16xn would be difficult to resist
How about a few curve balls?
International 12H or a Mag Power 990
1-1/4" 113H?
Might be an army of 1 here but a newell 600 series narrow would be nice, the width of the one they make for the 400/500
The topless kit for the international 16s might be popular and they've made those before
I'b be up for another T3N if you made them
I can't believe I'm going to say this but I'm set on Penn reels for now but want some extra spools. T3xn, p21xn (500 and 505) and p16xn x2.
randy you know me narrow 100 all the way .... will take two for sure ... up to four possible ... dennis
How about a Squider Magnum?
How about aluminum frames for Shimano TLD 20 & 25 ?
Quote from: cmdrzog on April 04, 2020, 10:22:53 AM
P100xn and p16xn would be difficult to resist
Aren't these two the same frame and spool, with a different spool shaft? If so, could they be done together, with a spool option?
Penn P16XN extra narrow kit (1 1/4") for the Penn Squidder
New: P100XN extra narrow kit (1 1/4") for the Penn Surfmaster 100, 150, 200 and Monofil 27, etc.Add Beachmaster and Baymaster reels to that list. I can't commit right now, but would definitely be interested in any of the above when things get better.
I've given up on the Squidder Magnum, which would require side plates as well. My "curve ball" would be Mag 970, though I know it is a long shot.
I don't think there is any need for these smaller guys, any narrower and won't hold much line, besides Prochallenger carries some nice spools for the Squidder and surfmaster 100 in multiple colors.
He also has frame posts in aluminum and stainless steel.
The surfmaster 100 size will work on all other reels with the same diameter plate.
I would personally be interested in the 600 series, maybe in the R631-3 size.
Yes I'm a fan of Newell, these reels are great as they are, but the larger ones would really benefit from a metal spool and frame.
Black would be nice, but purple would be even better, but I understand it would be a long shot.
(https://i.imgur.com/MFP8MG5.jpg)
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Anyways, if a kit for these happens, please put me down.
Sal
I'm with Sal on the 631 size too, I'd be in for a black and a red one.
Have you ever considered a narrow 9/0 frame/spool kit ??
I like Teds idea, but designed to be fished under the rod.
In have no idea why, other than, in the words of Billy Madison, "...I made the duck blue because I'd never seen a blue duck before and I wanted to see one". :D ;D
Topless 349H...
Cool
T3N, squidder magnum & jigmaster magnum ( I know I'm dreaming about the last two ) ;D ;D ;D
Hey Sal, did you make those cool fish-themed cabinets? Very nice!
Quote from: nelz on April 04, 2020, 08:44:04 PM
Hey Sal, did you make those cool fish-themed cabinets? Very nice!
Yes! found some rough cut lumber on one of my jobs, instead of getting rid of it at the dump, I decided to use it for this project.
This was done about 9 years ago, yes I've been here for some time now :)
You can take a closer look here if you wish:
https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=2937.msg18371#msg18371
Thanks!
Sal
I'm in for a T3N, Newell 322XN but if they can manage to make a T4NK for a 113hn Baja, well I'd take that too.
x2
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 04, 2020, 08:09:17 PM
T3N, squidder magnum & jigmaster magnum ( I know I'm dreaming about the last two ) ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 04, 2020, 08:09:17 PM
T3N, squidder magnum & jigmaster magnum ( I know I'm dreaming about the last two ) ;D ;D ;D
Darin, this thread is for frame/spool kit. Tiburon doesn't make sideplates, so yure barkin' up the wrong tree. I believe pro gear made a magnum squidder, just not sure of the model#
Quote from: Maxed Out on April 05, 2020, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 04, 2020, 08:09:17 PM
T3N, squidder magnum & jigmaster magnum ( I know I'm dreaming about the last two ) ;D ;D ;D
Darin, this thread is for frame/spool kit. Tiburon doesn't make sideplates, so yure barkin' up the wrong tree. I believe pro gear made a magnum squidder, just not sure of the model#
I know, it's why I said I was dreaming, to anyone listening (hint CC or PC), the PG 255 is a squidder magnum and I've been looking for a gold one forever . . . ;D
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 05, 2020, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on April 05, 2020, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on April 04, 2020, 08:09:17 PM
T3N, squidder magnum & jigmaster magnum ( I know I'm dreaming about the last two ) ;D ;D ;D
Darin, this thread is for frame/spool kit. Tiburon doesn't make sideplates, so yure barkin' up the wrong tree. I believe pro gear made a magnum squidder, just not sure of the model#
I know, it's why I said I was dreaming, to anyone listening (hint CC or PC), the PG 255 is a squidder magnum and I've been looking for a gold one forever . . . ;D
You are correct Ted!
Give it more time, I believe a custom magnum reel will show up.
Sal
Another run of T3XNs would be great. The 3/0 is such a comfortable size.
The Man
Randy, is it too early to tell how the votes are going as to which one will be the new project run?
Quote from: Rocket Dog on April 09, 2020, 12:20:11 AM
Randy, is it too early to tell how the votes are going as to which one will be the new project run?
Rocketdog, it looks like the leading contender at this point is the T3N with 5 votes, but that is far short of the level of interest that would justify the investment.
I had my vote in my head, and see a couple others- 970 frame and spool. For folks wanting magnum this or that, which I will certainly be in for if someone makes plates, the 970/980/990 use 113H drags. The 970 / 980 use three, and at basically same retrieve ratio as the Jiggy, you are getting more drag in a steel gear right there, with a more robust three screw seat and much heavier rings. The sleeve on these takes 113H-series size handles as well. This could be a drop-in on 970 or narrow a 980.
my 0.02. I know there is agreement not to make std Penn width kits but these stands, bars (the Magpower ones, not chrome jiggy ones), and spools are long gone.
John
Quote from: thorhammer on April 09, 2020, 12:43:14 PM
I had my vote in my head, and see a couple others- 970 frame and spool. For folks wanting magnum this or that, which I will certainly be in for if someone makes plates, the 970/980/990 use 113H drags. The 970 / 980 use three, and at basically same retrieve ratio as the Jiggy, you are getting more drag in a steel gear right there, with a more robust three screw seat and much heavier rings. The sleeve on these takes 113H-series size handles as well. This could be a drop-in on 970 or narrow a 980.
my 0.02. I know there is agreement not to make std Penn width kits but these stands, bars (the Magpower ones, not chrome jiggy ones), and spools are long gone.
John
Agreed, John!
I think somebody said something about 990, maybe Nick, I know he has one- a narrowed 990 would be a BEAST.
Quote from: thorhammer on April 09, 2020, 02:48:19 PM
I think somebody said something about 990, maybe Nick, I know he has one- a narrowed 990 would be a BEAST.
Oh yeah!! The 990 isn't quite as "dear" as the 970 and 980.
Hey Sal,
Sent you some info on our issue!!! On a text message and an e-mail. Did you
get them or should I re-send them??
Peter
No, didn't get anything from you Peter and not even sure on what issue we are having, I do not have any issues.
I hear a while back you were having some problems with the assembly if a Jigmaster, using custom parts.
You are actually the only one I herd of and asked to have you send me the reel but that never happened.
Is this the issue you are referring to?
I'm actually not even sure why you would post this on Randy's thread??
If you need to contact me for any reason, try here in a pm.
If I don't recognize the number, I usually don't pic up with my cell.
Sal
T4N1 -XN 4/0. I missed out when these were last ran and I'd really to get one kit in silver!
Randy. Just checking to see if there was enough demand for another kit order to send out to the folks at Tiburon?
Magnum-Super Jigmaster. 113H guts with an extra wide frame/spool. Yeah, a 113H might give you the same performance, but a MSJ would be a serious collecters/conversation piece.
Quote from: fishloco8 on April 09, 2020, 09:24:16 PM
T4N1 -XN 4/0. I missed out when these were last ran and I'd really to get one kit in silver!
Fishloco8, I just gave the go-ahead for another short run of 20 of the T4XN extra narrow kits for the 113H 4/0 Senator. Are you still in for one kit in silver?
Thank you,
Randy
Randy, I'm in for one in all silver. Rudy
Randy, I'm in for one black on black. T.O.R. 2
I love my T4XN... prob don't need another. Or do I ?
Cool
Thank you Rudy and Randy! Let me know if you decide that you want one Ed. There are 18 left available.
Randy, are they going to be marked T4N1 like the originals?
I wasn't planning on that Rudy. The second run was marked T4XN, which is more in keeping with Tiburon's numbering system. We marked the first run T4N1 because someone suggested that it would look like "TANI". Are you OK with T4XN?
Thanks,
Randy
Yes
Or how about another curve ball: 1/3 frame for the 209 and 309 reels. These are still in production and are set to be kept in production for a long time
Randy, is there a no marking option?
Any chance to make one fit the Baja 113HN side plates with the matching spool??? I'd take two.
Quote from: Tile on May 13, 2020, 11:59:26 PM
Or how about another curve ball: 1/3 frame for the 209 and 309 reels. These are still in production and are set to be kept in production for a long time
That's an interesting idea Tile!
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 14, 2020, 01:44:20 AM
Randy, is there a no marking option?
Randy, I'm sure that Tiburon can run a frame for you with no graphics if I remember to remind them right before they are doing the graphics.
Is that how you want yours done?
Quote from: Rocket Dog on May 14, 2020, 03:10:23 AM
Any chance to make one fit the Baja 113HN side plates with the matching spool??? I'd take two.
Jose, the Baja Special spool assembly is very different from the standard Senator and would require significant engineering work, so Tiburon would require a 50 kit minimum order, which would mean a larger investment than I am ready to make at the moment.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 06:44:18 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 14, 2020, 01:44:20 AM
Randy, is there a no marking option?
Randy, I'm sure that Tiburon can run a frame for you with no graphics if I remember to remind them right before they are doing the graphics.
Is that how you want yours done?
Yes please.
And I like the Baja idea for the future. With the Cortez bridge...A super reel is born. I'm in for two.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 06:48:40 AM
Quote from: Rocket Dog on May 14, 2020, 03:10:23 AM
Any chance to make one fit the Baja 113HN side plates with the matching spool??? I'd take two.
Jose, the Baja Special spool assembly is very different from the standard Senator and would require significant engineering work, so Tiburon would require a 50 kit minimum order, which would mean a larger investment than I am ready to make at the moment.
That is a lot to float until they all are sold off.... Thank you for all of your hard work to make these kits possible for us. Hopefully we can see one in the future if the demand materializes.
Thank you Jose. Between you and Randy, that's 4 kits, which is a good start. It would be one hell of a reel.
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 14, 2020, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 06:44:18 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 14, 2020, 01:44:20 AM
Randy, is there a no marking option?
Randy, I'm sure that Tiburon can run a frame for you with no graphics if I remember to remind them right before they are doing the graphics.
Is that how you want yours done?
Yes please.
And I like the Baja idea for the future. With the Cortez bridge...A super reel is born. I'm in for two.
hmm a XN Baja Special kit, sounds interesting, I will be keeping an eye on this one, I have enough parts to build me a 2nd baja special, but the frame have lots of corrosion, so this idea of the XN kit could be the solution.
I'd be in for a XN baja special. Shocking I know since I've bought every XN you've done so far, haha. Keep em coming Randy and thanks for doing it.
I don't know why Penn won't make an X-Narrow Baja Senator. I know it isn't there most popular line, but it would be an easy mod and probably become the most proffitable model.
As far as the T4XN, put me on the list.
Ron Jones
Randy, would it be possible to drill and tap the frame on right side head plate side to accomodate moving the gear box forward and the eccentric would move back similiar to jigmaster eccentric lever placement? That would be for a 113hxn. Just a thought!
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 14, 2020, 08:02:14 PM
Randy, would it be possible to drill and tap the frame on right side head plate side to accomodate moving the gear box forward and the eccentric would move back similiar to jigmaster eccentric lever placement? That would be for a 113hxn. Just a thought!
Only problem is the harness lugs wouldn't line up.
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 14, 2020, 08:02:14 PM
Randy, would it be possible to drill and tap the frame on right side head plate side to accomodate moving the gear box forward and the eccentric would move back similiar to jigmaster eccentric lever placement? That would be for a 113hxn. Just a thought!
Thank you for the suggestion Jim. I agree that it would be nice to have the lever closer to your thumb, and it might be worth considering for future projects, but Tiburon is letting me slide with a much smaller run than they would normally allow and I don't want to throw a curveball at them this time.
Quote from: xjchad on May 14, 2020, 08:15:36 PM
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 14, 2020, 08:02:14 PM
Randy, would it be possible to drill and tap the frame on right side head plate side to accomodate moving the gear box forward and the eccentric would move back similiar to jigmaster eccentric lever placement? That would be for a 113hxn. Just a thought!
Only problem is the harness lugs wouldn't line up
Yea, I just tried it and realized the lug issue, but I and maybe others would like a lugless frame. On the party party boats and overnighters I fish on I've never had the use for lugs on the 113h style reels. Never had to wear a harness to strap into lugs even. I do realize that the Penn logo on bakelite plates would be off kilt. But if you use Toms new style side plates its no problem. Also I realize that this is an extra expense but when have most of us cared about that anyhow? IMHO!
LoL, good points Jim!
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 14, 2020, 08:02:14 PM
Randy, would it be possible to drill and tap the frame on right side head plate side to accomodate moving the gear box forward and the eccentric would move back similiar to jigmaster eccentric lever placement? That would be for a 113hxn. Just a thought!
Thank you for the suggestion Jim. I agree that it would be nice to have the lever closer to your thumb, and it might be worth considering for future projects, but Tiburon is letting me slide with a much smaller run than they would normally allow and I don't want to throw a curveball at them this time.
Randy, could Tiburon make some reversible lugs for the 113hxn kits to go along with them? As I myself would purchase several extra sets of lugs for all my other reels also.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 14, 2020, 08:02:14 PM
Randy, would it be possible to drill and tap the frame on right side head plate side to accomodate moving the gear box forward and the eccentric would move back similiar to jigmaster eccentric lever placement? That would be for a 113hxn. Just a thought!
Thank you for the suggestion Jim. I agree that it would be nice to have the lever closer to your thumb, and it might be worth considering for future projects, but Tiburon is letting me slide with a much smaller run than they would normally allow and I don't want to throw a curveball at them this time.
Randy, I think if we got enough interest in the frames without lug notches, we would be giving Tom some business also with his new style sideplates.
Jim, the T4XN kit for the 113H doesn't have any notches for the harness lugs and neither do Tom's new-style 113H side plates, so there is no need for reversible lugs. If you are talking about an extra narrow kit for the Baja Special 113HN, we would need to expressions of interest for at least 30 kits before we could ask Tiburon to do the engineering for a frame and spool, as they 113HN frame and spool share very little in common with the 113H. They would need a minimum run of 50 kits and that would be require a significant investment up front on my part.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 10:46:03 PM
Jim, the T4XN kit for the 113H doesn't have any notches for the harness lugs and neither do Tom's new-style 113H side plates, so there is no need for reversible lugs. If you are talking about an extra narrow kit for the Baja Special 113HN, we would need to expressions of interest for at least 30 kits before we could ask Tiburon to do the engineering for a frame and spool, as they 113HN frame and spool share very little in common with the 113H. They would need a minimum run of 50 kits and that would be require a significant investment up front on my part.
Randy, just looked at my last T4xn and saw that your right on that one. But still would like to see a frame like the xn with the screw hole pattern where gear box can be mounted forward with Toms plates. One reason why I like my baja special so much. Anyhow Randy its been nice to bounce some ideas off you!
Thanks Jim
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 15, 2020, 12:18:05 AM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 10:46:03 PM
Jim, the T4XN kit for the 113H doesn't have any notches for the harness lugs and neither do Tom's new-style 113H side plates, so there is no need for reversible lugs. If you are talking about an extra narrow kit for the Baja Special 113HN, we would need to expressions of interest for at least 30 kits before we could ask Tiburon to do the engineering for a frame and spool, as they 113HN frame and spool share very little in common with the 113H. They would need a minimum run of 50 kits and that would be require a significant investment up front on my part.
Randy, just looked at my last T4xn and saw that your right on that one. But still would like to see a frame like the xn with the screw hole pattern where gear box can be mounted forward with Toms plates. One reason why I like my baja special so much. Anyhow Randy its been nice to bounce some ideas off you!
Thanks Jim
Thank you for taking the time to come up with some great ideas Jim. I'm trying to take things as delicately as possible with Tiburon right now, so I don't want to ask for any favors like working out the engineering on something that I cannot guarantee will result in a significant order. Hopefully we can put together the extra narrow Baja Special project together at some point in the future. I would want one for myself for sure!
Thanks again,
Randy
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 16, 2020, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: sabaman1 on May 15, 2020, 12:18:05 AM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 10:46:03 PM
Jim, the T4XN kit for the 113H doesn't have any notches for the harness lugs and neither do Tom's new-style 113H side plates, so there is no need for reversible lugs. If you are talking about an extra narrow kit for the Baja Special 113HN, we would need to expressions of interest for at least 30 kits before we could ask Tiburon to do the engineering for a frame and spool, as they 113HN frame and spool share very little in common with the 113H. They would need a minimum run of 50 kits and that would be require a significant investment up front on my part.
Randy, just looked at my last T4xn and saw that your right on that one. But still would like to see a frame like the xn with the screw hole pattern where gear box can be mounted forward with Toms plates. One reason why I like my baja special so much. Anyhow Randy its been nice to bounce some ideas off you!
Thanks Jim
Thank you for taking the time to come up with some great ideas Jim. I'm trying to take things as delicately as possible with Tiburon right now, so I don't want to ask for any favors like working out the engineering on something that I cannot guarantee will result in a significant order. Hopefully we can put together the extra narrow Baja Special project together at some point in the future. I would want one for myself for sure!
Thanks again,
Randy
Thanks for your time Randy!
How about a Daiwa narrow Sealine 30h frame and spool.
This would be able to fit the 30h AND the 30SH models since they share the same spool. More opportunities with the same product.
I would like a run of Daiwa sealine anything narrow since the reels are high quality.
Eugene
Randy , farmer back .... Alto made the comment about need , line cap. of a narrow surf. 100 , monofil 27 ... but the way i fish trolling in 5 to 15 feet of water with only 100 ft. of line out at the most , the narrow 100 , 27 will fit my boat just fine .. lighter reel easy to do the line lay retrieve for the ladies and smaller kids in boat ... are the spool shafts just pressed in or are they glued also , because some machinest out there should be able to make me a few surfmaster 100 monofil 27 arbor spool shafts for me ... also Randy i'm too slow on the uptake YES put me down for one Baja Special 113HN narrow IF AND when they ever get built !!!!!!!!! 50 is not so far away now ... as always hope this finds you and your family well farmer 56 out dennis Hey Alto no malaise intended with the shout out.... dennis
Hi Dennis. It's great to hear from you. All's well here so far, knock on wood, and I hope for you and yours too. Regarding the spools, the shafts are pressed in and glued, but if we do run the XN Squidders again, we could just send you the spool bodies without shafts if you are going to have some made for the 100. I am 99% sure that the spool body for the Squidder and the 100 Surfmaster are the same. I will add you to the list for the XN Baja Special.
Thank you,
Randy
Late , but I'd put a vote in for 100XN's.
Quote from: CooldadE on April 04, 2020, 08:03:05 PM
Topless 349H...
Cool
Ed, your wish is my command. Please let me know if you might want it.
Thanks,
Randy
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 14, 2020, 10:46:03 PM
They would need a minimum run of 50 kits and that would be require a significant investment up front on my part.
You the Man Randy!
steve
Steve, one of them came home to roost, courtesy of Darin.
PM sent
Cool
Put me down as a vote for XN Baja Special / US113...
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 06, 2020, 12:11:15 AM
Steve, one of them came home to roost, courtesy of Darin.
haha, I know that reel ;D
I want a squidder sized reel with 6/0 guts while you're at it ;D ;D ;D
I love my 49XN!
I just spin it from time to time for fun.
Ronald Jones
How about another run of 533n kits in black or silver ??
Quote from: SD853 on July 29, 2020, 08:56:39 PM
How about another run of 533n kits in black or silver ??
I spoke with Tiburon and they did not have an ETA on any new N533NK kits. Could you use a red kit, or a black or silver frame with red or cobalt spool?
Thanks Randy, I'll have to give it som thought. Black frame with a red spool might work.
Newell 229 frames. They have none left. TLD 20 topless would be cool as well
Let's get some support drummed up for a P100XN and P16XN run!!!!!!
Quote from: ReelPatina on August 20, 2020, 02:50:48 AM
Let's get some support drummed up for a P100XN and P16XN run!!!!!!
I'll have to say, after building a P21XN, the P16XN has my interest. 8)
Frames for the classic 12T Internationals...? :)
~A~
We would love to run the P16XN Squidders again combined with an extra narrow kit for the Surfmaster 100/150 (which would also fit the 155, 25,6,7, 160, 180 etc.), but so far, I only have 8 Surfmaster kits and 2 Squidder kits spoken for. Tiburon is going to require a minimum of 35 combined kits, and to get a price that will allow us to hold the $129 price, we will probably need to order (and pay for) 50 combined kits. If we could generate orders for 25 combined kits, we would bite the bullet and place the order.
Aiala, we have had maybe a half-dozen requests to resurrect the Tiburon topless frame for the 12T and 12LT. I think that Tiburon might bite if we had a dozen pre-sold, since they already have the engineering work completed.
Thank you,
Randy
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on August 20, 2020, 04:07:09 PM
Aiala, we have had maybe a half-dozen requests to resurrect the Tiburon topless frame for the 12T and 12LT. I think that Tiburon might bite if we had a dozen pre-sold, since they already have the engineering work completed. Thank you, Randy
That's great, Randy... I'm in... thanks! :D
Anyone else interested? :)
~
A~
Will the 12T /LT frame fit a 12H ?
Cool
Quote from: CooldadE on August 20, 2020, 09:46:43 PM
Will the 12T /LT frame fit a 12H ?
Cool
Ed, I am embarrassed to say that I do not know the answer to that question. I just sent an email to Tiburon and should have an answer on Monday.
Randy
Abu Garcia 9000, 10000 - frames without level wind.
Randy, would the International 12lt frame be a standard size topless?
Quote from: sabaman1 on August 21, 2020, 03:34:54 PM
Randy, would the International 12lt frame be a standard size topless?
Yes Jim, it would be a standard width frame to work with the stock Penn spool. I don't think that Tiburon has ever made an International spool, so if we asked them to do it, we would either have to pay an engineering fee, or order a much larger quantity. I sent them an email asking if they would be willing to run a dozen standard width kits, but haven't heard back yet.
Thanks,
Randy
Quote from: Riy2018 on August 21, 2020, 01:15:00 PM
Abu Garcia 9000, 10000 - frames without level wind.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on August 21, 2020, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: Riy2018 on August 21, 2020, 01:15:00 PM
Abu Garcia 9000, 10000 - frames without level wind.
Thank you for your suggestion.
British PMR does aluminium frames for Abu`s. I would love to order one like that from Tuburon.
https://youtu.be/sQvN4W-tVLo
Those are beautiful frames, but it would require a completely new project with Tiburon, with extensive engineering costs, and the risks of teething pains, none of which I would like to share.
Quote from: Aiala on August 20, 2020, 03:09:55 PM
Frames for the classic 12T Internationals...? :)
~A~
Dear Lannie and Jim,
I called Tiburon today to find out about what it would take to run the topless 12T/12LT frames again, and to see if it they could make a frame that would also work with the original 12/12H. I was surprised to learn that Tiburon currently has 8 topless frames in stock for the original 12 and 12H. Unfortunately, they have no stock on the newer topless frame for the 12T and 12LT, but they did say that if we would order 15 frames that they would run them for us. They would be $107.95 plus $5.70 for shipping by USPS first class parcel with tracking.
There are 4 kits available now for immediate shipment for the original 12 and 12H. We could bite the bullet and order the 15 kits for the 12T and 12LT if we could generate pre-orders with $20 deposits for 10 kits. The balance would not be due until the kits are ready. Please post here or send a PM if any of the above would work for you.
Thank you!
Randy, thanks for looking into that! I would be in for 1 12lt kit. Hopefully there are others interested as well.
So only 40 more P16XN orders to get this done... lol come one guys buy multiple, stocking stuffers, and some for future grandkids! We all have reels hanging around that we don't use... might as well order this one so at least " that" reel will be a looker sitting in the garage or basement corner!
Quote from: sabaman1 on August 24, 2020, 10:57:47 PM
Randy, thanks for looking into that! I would be in for 1 12lt kit. Hopefully there are others interested as well.
Jim, I'm sorry to say that it looks like another run of topless Tiburon frames for the International 12T and 12LT is DOA, at least for the moment. There has been very little interest. Tiburon does have topless frames in stock for the original 12 and 12H.
Thanks for giving it a try.
Randy
Quote from: ReelPatina on September 15, 2020, 08:35:58 PM
So only 40 more P16XN orders to get this done... lol come one guys buy multiple, stocking stuffers, and some for future grandkids! We all have reels hanging around that we don't use... might as well order this one so at least " that" reel will be a looker sitting in the garage or basement corner!
Thank you for your post. I would love to run the P16XN kits again if it looks like we can sell 'em!
Randy
I too would like to see another run of P16XN kits. 8)
I'm still on the board with a TXN4 set up for a Baja 113H.. Dreamer, but I would buy two.
Quote from: Rocket Dog on September 16, 2020, 12:54:12 AM
I'm still on the board with a TXN4 set up for a Baja 113H.. Dreamer, but I would buy two.
Jose, I have had a total of 8 requests for an extra narrow Baja 113HN kit. As it would be a completely different from any product that Tiburon has produced in the past, I am pretty sure that they are going to require a significant opening order and an engineering fee.
I do appreciate your enthusiasm and support, but we have a long way to go to get close to getting this project off of the ground.
Randy
Quote from: mo65 on September 15, 2020, 10:52:14 PM
I too would like to see another run of P16XN kits. 8)
Thank you Mo. We have requests for a total of 4 P16XN kits plus 8 XN kits for the Surfmaster 100, which uses the same frame and spool body but a different shaft. If we could get up to a total of 35 combined kits, including no less than 20 100XNs, we could place the order.
Thanks again,
Randy
Randy, I'd go for an XN Surfmaster kit.
One more for a Baja Special XN
After a short time with a Pro Gear 545 I am wondering if this may be a be a possibility ? A true 4/0 size reel is going to grab more line with each turn of the handle but the 545 is of a much more user friendly size using already available 4/0 parts... Jeff
Quote from: Rivverrat on September 19, 2020, 10:22:54 PM
After a short time with a Pro Gear 545 I am wondering if this may be a be a possibility ? A true 4/0 size reel is going to grab more line with each turn of the handle but the 545 is of a much more user friendly size using already available 4/0 parts... Jeff
Jeff, I love the 545 too, but I'm not sure that I understand what you are suggesting in the way of a new Tiburon kit. Would you please explain it for me?
Also, I need to know if I sent you the money that I owe you. I don't think that I did. Please shoot me a PM with payment instructions.
Thank you,
Randy
Maybe something like a 3/0 magnum? A 3/0 with 4/0 gears? A little smaller than a 4/0 but more IPT than a 545 size. Interesting concept
Quote from: Swami805 on September 22, 2020, 08:39:10 PM
Maybe something like a 3/0 magnum? A 3/0 with 4/0 gears? A little smaller than a 4/0 but more IPT than a 545 size. Interesting concept
sounds great, but Im more into a 4/0 YTS magnum, in this part of Baja we need more power than line capacity, Maybe thats why Penn decided to call the new narrow reel 4/0 sized with 6/0 drags the Baja Special.
even tho I love my Baja Special, it has more moving parts than the goodold senator 113h, so, I need to say that I hate the "micro bearing" inside of the shaft of the disconecting spool, way too finicky.
Alex, I have a pair of standard width Accurate 113H Magnums which feature the drivetrain of the 114H 6/0 Senator and are in 9.9 plus on a 10 scale condition. They are hard to find collector reels, and are probably too pricey to fish with, but they sound like the reel that you are describing, and you might be able to find one in average used condition at an affordable price.
beautiful reels Randy, as you said, too valuable collector item to actually use it for fishing.
Oh Wow Randy,
Them are sure pretty to look at........
Beautiful reels.....
Col
How about a XN Jigmaster 506?
Lee, I fished yesterday with the Jiggy 21xn kit and thought it was super. Line lay on retrieval required almost no thought.
Thank you Alex and Col, and thank you Randy for the nice field report on the P21XN.
Lee, I really appreciate your input. We did run the P21XN-HS kits for the 505/506HS originally, but there wasn't much demand. We just did another run of the P21XN last month and I still have them in stock in silver and black, but unfortunately I didn't run any with the HS spools. Next time I will try to do a better job promoting the HS option and hopefully we will get enough orders to run the special spool shafts.
Thanks again,
Randy
Just throwing this out there. What is the possibility of a 545 / 3/0 N size reel with 4/0-6/0 guts & floating shaft. I believe there is a plus to using the 6/0 parts on a 3/0 reel. The brass / bronze gears & sleeve should hold up fine for most saving the cost of stainless with better drag performance regarding heat & smoothness.
Randy, I guess I'm just wondering about a 3/0 N or XN with beefed up drags. Not necessarily anything new. Would be neat if the 545 frame could be had with a free floating spool. I'm just dreaming... Jeff
Making spools with bearings in them like Abu's so the spool would be floating on the shaft? That would be something
How about narrow Long Beach frame.
Which LB? 60-65 or 66-67-68? Rudy
Either series would be great. There are a bunch of these reels out there. You can upgrade drags on both. I love 67 with upgraded drag for snook and grouper pier fishing.
Why not just build a 113H with a T4UN frame. Then you will have a stronger reel with much more drag capibility & a lot of possibilities for almost unlimited upgrades. Or just get a LB 66,or 66 posts,stand, & spool for your 67. Rudy
Quote from: sharkman on October 02, 2020, 10:22:49 AM
How about narrow Long Beach frame.
There is already a frame for the 65,66, and 67. Well, not a whole frame, but a sturdy aftermarket aluminum seat that allows for longer seat screws. A whole frame would not be cost effective, as Rudy has already explained
-Ted
Ted, where is this seat of which you speak? Maybe I'm having a brain freeze.
Quote from: thorhammer on October 05, 2020, 03:49:08 PM
Ted, where is this seat of which you speak? Maybe I'm having a brain freeze.
I think Ted is referring to his own Maxed Out reel seat, a worthy upgrade to any stock Penn reel. Something else you can do if you like Long Beaches...everyone always forgets about the 267/268 LB. It comes stock with a half frame, they are a good solid reel. 8)
Thank you Sharkman for the suggestion about the Long Beach upgrade. Both Ted and Mo have offered great suggestions for the large Long Beach models. As Rudy pointed out, the 113H Senator offers drastically improved performance right out of the box, with a huge selection of performance upgrades available, in the roughly same size category.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on October 05, 2020, 05:55:58 PM
Both Ted and Mo have offered great suggestions for the large Long Beach models.
Randy,
Didn't Tiburon make a LB 60 frame years ago? Or maybe it was a 2/0 Senator frame? I know Ted told me about it years ago, but it probably spilled out over the top, as my mind won't hold all the info he shares. 8)
You are right Mo. Tiburon made a special run of 2/0 Senator frames many years ago. I very rarely come across them.
Quote from: Rivverrat on October 01, 2020, 08:31:51 PM
Just throwing this out there. What is the possibility of a 545 / 3/0 N size reel with 4/0-6/0 guts & floating shaft. I believe there is a plus to using the 6/0 parts on a 3/0 reel. The brass / bronze gears & sleeve should hold up fine for most saving the cost of stainless with better drag performance regarding heat & smoothness.
Randy, I guess I'm just wondering about a 3/0 N or XN with beefed up drags. Not necessarily anything new. Would be neat if the 545 frame could be had with a free floating spool. I'm just dreaming... Jeff
Jeff, I really appreciate your suggestion. I also love the Pro Gear USA 545 and also the old Pro Gear GR3000, as they provide the 113H drive train in a 3/0 size package, and I buy them whenever I can find a good deal on a nice one.
Regarding an upgraded 3/0 narrow, we have already run the T3N kit (1 5/8" wide) for the 112H 3/0 Senator, and it's a great little reel. I would assume that Bryan Young's Jigmaster drag upgrades will work in the 112H. I would love to run those kits again if enough people asked for them, and we could probably get Tiburon to accept a smaller minimum quantity as all of the engineering has been done, but I would guess that the lack of demand is because there isn't much difference performance-wise between the 112H and the Jigmaster. Here on the left coast, fishermen have traditionally chosen the Jigmaster over the 112H by a 100+ to 1 margin.
Thanks again,
Randy
Randy, I know this thread is all over the place but I would like to make a comment. I love the Jigmaster narrow (and agree with the 3/0 narrow comment), but I have a new preference.
I am up for a couple of the narrow Newell series when they come around again. Having average sized hands, the 21XN was just barely too big to palm so the narrow Newell would still have the same guts as a jiggy, but more comfortable.
You can't please everyone so just please me. lol. Good luck in whatever you come up with bud.
Thanks for your input Randy. We made a couple of runs of extra narrow kits for the Newell 200 series, which as you know is approximately the same diameter as the Penn Squidder. I would love to run them again, and I have a growing list of requests for them. Would that work for you?
That's affirmative Sir!
Randy,
You can add my name to the list for a N220XN in all black if you run them again.
Thanks,
John
Quote from: ProMariner on October 07, 2020, 12:26:09 AM
Randy,
You can add my name to the list for a N220XN in all black if you run them again.
Thanks,
John
Will do John. Thank you!
Quote from: Rancanfish on October 05, 2020, 09:34:35 PM
That's affirmative Sir!
Thank you Randy! We are about halfway there for another run of the N220XN kits.
How far off are we on the 100/146XN s ? It's Togging season over here in the Northeast!!!!
How much line are y'all able to pack on these N220XN kits ?
Cool
Quote from: CooldadE on October 21, 2020, 01:55:09 AM
How much line are y'all able to pack on these N220XN kits ?
Cool
Cool, my best guess is that they will hold around 300 yards of 50 lb Spectra. If anyone that has a 220XN kit and knows how much line they hold would chime in, that would be great.
Quote from: ReelPatina on October 21, 2020, 01:48:24 AM
How far off are we on the 100/146XN s ? It's Togging season over here in the Northeast!!!!
ReelPatina, I really appreciate your interest, but I'm sorry to say that it isn't going to happen this year. So far, I have interest in 3 146XN and 9 100XN kits, which isn't close to enough. I would need a minimum order of 25 100XN and 15 146XN to place the order with Tiburon.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on October 21, 2020, 07:28:43 PM
Quote from: ReelPatina on October 21, 2020, 01:48:24 AM
How far off are we on the 100/146XN s ? It's Togging season over here in the Northeast!!!!
ReelPatina, I really appreciate your interest, but I'm sorry to say that it isn't going to happen this year. So far, I have an interest in 3 146XN and 9 100XN kits, which isn't close to enough. I would need a minimum order of 25 100XN and 15 146XN to place the order with Tiburon.
Randy!!!
We are getting closer to making the order!!!!
PLZ put me down for 2 100XN kits!!!!
TANKS.
Wayne
Thank you Wayne! Getting closer...
Randy , I am aware it's not going down in 2020 or prob even the second half of 21... just trying to bring some levity to the reality of us smaller reel lovers. Free advertising for a good project. Just have to keep bringing it up now and then and I nickle and dime 1 or 2 more orders for you each time . I'm thinking Sept 2022 if I continue at this rate. ;D
Quote from: ReelPatina on October 23, 2020, 12:41:54 AM
Randy , I am aware it's not going down in 2020 or prob even the second half of 21... just trying to bring some levity to the reality of us smaller reel lovers. Free advertising for a good project. Just have to keep bringing it up now and then and I nickle and dime 1 or 2 more orders for you each time . I'm thinking Sept 2022 if I continue at this rate. ;D
Thank you! Keep up the good work!
Randy, please put me on the list for a N220XN (silver). Thanks for this! /Joe
Quote from: Decker on November 18, 2020, 08:17:42 PM
Randy, please put me on the list for a N220XN (silver). Thanks for this! /Joe
Got it Joe. Thank you!
We need some distraction Randy! P.S. I thought black was the only option?
Quote from: Rancanfish on November 23, 2020, 04:07:04 PM
I thought black was the only option?
If so, I'm good with black.
Quote from: Rancanfish on November 23, 2020, 04:07:04 PM
We need some distraction Randy! P.S. I thought black was the only option?
Randy and Joe,
Tiburon said that they can do black, red or silver this time. There have been a couple of times when people had to wait longer for colors where I did not have enough orders for the anodizer to run them, but I don't expect that to happen with this run, knock on wood.
Thank you,
Randy
Put me down for a red one Randy Thanks!
Randy, I just pmed you with a question.
Quote from: Swami805 on November 24, 2020, 02:41:02 AM
Put me down for a red one Randy Thanks!
Will do Sheridan. Thank you!
Quote from: CooldadE on October 21, 2020, 01:55:09 AM
How much line are y'all able to pack on these N220XN kits ?
Cool
I got somewhere in the neighborhood of 370yds of 30# Power Pro on mine.
Quote from: JK47 on November 24, 2020, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: CooldadE on October 21, 2020, 01:55:09 AM
How much line are y'all able to pack on these N220XN kits ?
Cool
I got somewhere in the neighborhood of 370yds of 30# Power Pro on mine.
Thank you for the info Alek.
Randy how about a frame for the Penn 320 GTi? The internals of the reel are pretty robust, far stronger than the graphite frame....maybe standard and narrow width.....Bill
The 320 GTI is a fast squidder, yes plese.
The Man
I would love to do a 320 frame, but Tiburon has never done a frame for a levelwind and I don't want to pioneer the product. Like they used to say, a pioneer is someone with three arrows in his back.
Imma go onna limb- but I bet no one wants the levelwind if putting in a Tib frame. The 320 has 4/0 size drags, pretty formidable light rig with 50 / 65 braid and a Tib frame. I think there are SS sleeves around for them as well. I'm a fan of the GTi's for many things; I know Alan likes the 320 in specific as well.
John, if enough people wanted a non-levelwind 320 GTI frame, I would be happy to ask Tiburon for a price, but that model already has a one-piece frame.
Put me down for 1 maybe 2. The frame doesn't have to be 1 piece frame. A frame and left side plate would work for me. Bill
Got it Bill. Thank you.
Hi Randy, Any new projects in the works? Still looking to get a 300XN kit for my Newell or that XN Baja.
Guys I can get lost in this. I am most certain many can take me to school with their knowledge of Penn reels. However when I think of a reel that's not available It has to be a 4/0 with 6/0 innards.
In my mind a reel like this could very possibly make all the drag one could want using brass, factory stock pieces. Keeping the over all price of building one cheaper. Would/Could this work ? ...Jeff
Quote from: Rivverrat on February 11, 2021, 05:11:13 PM
Guys I can get lost in this. I am most certain many can take me to school with their knowledge of Penn reels. However when I think of a reel that's not available It has to be a 4/0 with 6/0 innards.
In my mind a reel like this could very possibly make all the drag one could want using brass, factory stock pieces. Keeping the over all price of building one cheaper. Would/Could this work ? ...Jeff
Jeff, here is exactly what the doctor ordered. A pair of Accurate 4/0 Magnums in unused near mint condition. Note the bulge at the bottom of the right side plate to accommodate the 114H 6/0 Senator gears. They aren't cheap but they are yours if you want them.
If one wanted to pull on a star drag as hard as one possibly could this would be a great place to start, and see if you can break it fighting stand-up. I'm not real sure you could break this reel in your hands with any mono, if you had SS sleeve.
PM sent
Quote from: thorhammer on February 11, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
If one wanted to pull on a star drag as hard as one possibly could this would be a great place to start, and see if you can break it fighting stand-up. I'm not real sure you could break this reel in your hands with any mono, if you had SS sleeve.
Do you think one could break the brass sleeve ? In my mind I question this... Jeff
Assuming the sleeve was in good shape when you put the bait in the water, there isn't a fish on the planet that would "break" it. If you maxed out 7 drag disks or a versa drag, you would eventually round it off, but if you did it with one fish you are a very strong person indeed.
The Man
Ron, while I may be above average strength I don't believe I'm strong enough to do this... Jeff
Jeff,
If you could do it I'd enjoy watching it, would be impressive!
Ronald Jones
Ron, I just don't think I'm that impressive ;D It would be neat to know just how much force the stock set up with aftermarket drag washers could take. Heck I don't even own a rod that would be up for such a task much less me... Jeff
Quote from: Rocket Dog on February 10, 2021, 02:00:05 AM
Hi Randy, Any new projects in the works? Still looking to get a 300XN kit for my Newell or that XN Baja.
Jose, we have planned another run of 300XN kits for this summer. The Baja Special spool assembly is too complicated and I don't want to take the risk.
Jeff, I think I recall Sal managed 75 lbs out of a fully Tanked 9/0 once, and those Magnum's are the same drive train but set in billet, not bakelite. I'm sure he had an Ultimate kit if not Adam's insert, but that's what's possible. I just don't know many folks willing to try to hang on to 75lbs drag fishing stand-up in a rocking boat on a big fish...
I doubt you'd even round the brass sleeve with the Accurate aluminum blades on those.
Quote from: thorhammer on February 12, 2021, 04:07:19 PM
Jeff, I think I recall Sal managed 75 lbs out of a fully Tanked 9/0 once, and those Magnum's are the same drive train but set in billet, not bakelite. I'm sure he had an Ultimate kit if not Adam's insert, but that's what's possible. I just don't know many folks willing to try to hang on to 75lbs drag fishing stand-up in a rocking boat on a big fish...
I doubt you'd even round the brass sleeve with the Accurate aluminum blades on those.
I'd need to be seated in a proper chair, for sure... Jeff
I once torqued a 50 lb Magnaflex solid glass rod out of true on a big shark an eight footer, using a stock 114HLW. I was about 230, in really good shape back then, and I put everything I could on it to keep the shark straight up and down out of the reef. Reel didn't even blink.
Quote from: thorhammer on February 12, 2021, 04:52:32 PM
I once torqued a 50 lb Magnaflex solid glass rod out of true on a big shark an eight footer, using a stock 114HLW. I was about 230, in really good shape back then, and I put everything I could on it to keep the shark straight up and down out of the reef. Reel didn't even blink.
This very cool ! ... Jeff
I've pics somewhere, and I never rewrapped the rod as that is my PB weight-wise, and an epic trip with my lifelong best friend to Largo. I eventually put Accurate plates and handle on that reel, but more for bling than I really needed to.
Randy, I'll start another thread....this one is off the proverbial rails, LOL. The Tib parts you sent are on point, and should get the builds done this weekend- there's also some new Ted swag in play, and a special piece for the Inspired By Sal thread.
That's great John. I'm sure that everyone would love to see some photos when you are finished with your projects.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on February 12, 2021, 02:50:14 PM
..............The Baja Special spool assembly is too complicated and I don't want to take the risk.
although sounds like a great mod for the Baja Special I also think the spool assembly is bit "over worked" with those two bearings on the right side of the spool. one micro bearing inside the shaft and a bigger bearing at the outside of the shaft.
P100XN and P16XN seekers speak up!
LB 60 frame. Bunches of these around cheaply, and any reel cheaply is getting more difficult. The older ones have steel mains and clearly plenty of ways to upgrade drag and handles easily. Reel could easily fish 50lb braid for bottom bouncing but needs a frame- no clamp.
Quote from: thorhammer on June 03, 2021, 10:36:01 AM
LB 60 frame. Bunches of these around cheaply, and any reel cheaply is getting more difficult. The older ones have steel mains and clearly plenty of ways to upgrade drag and handles easily. Reel could easily fish 50lb braid for bottom bouncing but needs a frame- no clamp.
John, I had the same thought a couple of years ago. It went over like a lead balloon, but as you suggested, the popularity and availability of the LB 60 ensure that a Tiburon kit would be successful. If not a spool and frame kit, at least a reel seat and bars.
trond_solem was doing a bit of CAD work with Penn frames back in 2015 and toying with getting someone to make them at a reasonable cost. He started talking 113H and Ted suggested the LB 60 would have no competition and possibly strong demand due to the number of 60's out there https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12633.0 (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12633.0) There was also talk of drilling holes to suit the 2/0 plates as well - no one mentioned using it for the 85 or delmar though? :)
Trond hasn't been active here since 2016 - I assume he didn't find a 'reasonable' priced manufacturer.
Mike
Quote from: mhc on June 03, 2021, 12:44:24 PM
trond_solem was doing a bit of CAD work with Penn frames back in 2015 and toying with getting someone to make them at a reasonable cost. He started talking 113H and Ted suggested the LB 60 would have no competition and possibly strong demand due to the number of 60's out there https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12633.0 (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12633.0) There was also talk of drilling holes to suit the 2/0 plates as well - no one mentioned using it for the 85 or delmar though? :)
Trond hasn't been active here since 2016 - I assume he didn't find a 'reasonable' priced manufacturer.
Mike
We may have lost Trond as there is Zero activity from him here since December 20016 and None on his website for over 6 years.
Since the 60 and 2/0 (and also the 85, etc.) use the same spools, I would guess that one kit would work for both models. The hole patterns are different, but it probably wouldn't be a problem to drill all of the holes to fit both.
These reels never caught on here on the left coast but if we can get 35 people who are willing to buy one I would be happy to have them made.
Thank you,
Randy
I'd go for a pair.
Quote from: thorhammer on June 03, 2021, 02:48:00 PM
I'd go for a pair.
Thank you John! That's a good start.
I don't even know what reel this is gonna fit but I will take a couple or more if the price is right.
Quote from: Wompus Cat on June 03, 2021, 03:02:59 PM
I don't even know what reel this is gonna fit but I will take a couple or more if the price is right.
This kit would fit the 60, 85, 111 2/0 Senator, 112 (black) 3/0 Senator, and a few others.
My best guess is the price would be in the $155-160 range.
Well ain;t the 185 /285 Delmar same size and plate patterns ???
Then what about sideplates ?
Yes they are. Tiburon does not make side plates. Cortez Conversions might make them if there is enough demand.
We are talking a one piece frame Right ?
Quote from: Wompus Cat on June 03, 2021, 04:02:22 PM
We are talking a one piece frame Right ?
That is correct, a one piece topless aluminum frame.
I have a 2/0 accurate frame if you wanted to use it for A template or something
160 for frame alone? Randy I think I'm with you on the drag part then...that makes a 200 dollar reel not as good as a 150 dollar progear by a mile
Quote from: Swami805 on June 03, 2021, 05:28:24 PM
I have a 2/0 accurate frame if you wanted to use it for A template or something
Wow, I didn't know a 2/0 frame existed. I'd love to find one.
Quote from: thorhammer on June 03, 2021, 05:29:34 PM
160 for frame alone? Randy I think I'm with you on the drag part then...that makes a 200 dollar reel not as good as a 150 dollar progear by a mile
No John, that's for the complete kit (frame, spool and rod clamp kit). I would assume that it would be narrower than the stock 60-2/0.
Narrower sounds interesting, but I think there would be more demand for a standard-width frame. Either way, I'd buy one.
Gotcha.
Quote from: Swami805 on June 03, 2021, 05:28:24 PM
I have a 2/0 accurate frame if you wanted to use it for A template or something
Thank you Sheridan. If we get enough interest, I might take you up on that!
Quote from: Decker on June 03, 2021, 06:02:27 PM
Narrower sounds interesting, but I think there would be more demand for a standard-width frame. Either way, I'd buy one.
Well you go to the trouble to make a stronger Frame ,I like a Wider Spool . Maybe 1/4 inch
Quote from: Wompus Cat on June 03, 2021, 06:17:11 PM
Quote from: Decker on June 03, 2021, 06:02:27 PM
Narrower sounds interesting, but I think there would be more demand for a standard-width frame. Either way, I'd buy one.
Well you go to the trouble to make a stronger Frame ,I like a Wider Spool . Maybe 1/4 inch
I would guess that the stock width 60 will hold at least 600 yards of 50 lb braid. Why would you want more line capacity?
Exactly- that's why I suggested the 60 vs 65. (the 65 is your 1/4inch wider). If you need bigger and stronger, 66 is it. Really I was about getting a clamp base as no Penn base is substitutable (I'm not counting Ted's stock crown jewels, I mean available to mortals).
Quote from: thorhammer on June 03, 2021, 07:45:42 PM
Exactly- that's why I suggested the 60 vs 65. (the 65 is your 1/4inch wider). If you need bigger and stronger, 66 is it. Really I was about getting a clamp base as no Penn base is substitutable (I'm not counting Ted's stock crown jewels, I mean available to mortals).
I may have gotten on the Wrong Bus but the Reels I am thinking of are the old style Penn 65's 185,285 ,
series reels.
Either way I like Metal and will buy a couple of whatever these fit and worry about getting the guts and plates later if I don't have them already...lol
These kits would fit the Long Beach 65 as well as the 60.
Randy, if a frame & spool fits a 65 then it is to wide to fit a 60. They each require a different width spool & frame. ??? ???
Rudy
Quote from: RowdyW on June 03, 2021, 10:22:58 PM
Randy, if a frame & spool fits a 65 then it is to wide to fit a 60. They each require a different width spool & frame. ??? ???
Rudy
Rudy, this frame and spool kit would replace the stock frame and spool. I'm pretty sure that the 60 and 65 side plates are the same. If that is correct, then the kit should fit both of them.
I thought you were saying that you could build 60 & 65 widths with the same kit.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 03, 2021, 09:53:51 PM
These kits would fit the Long Beach 65 as well as the 60.
Ok I is on the right Bus and the 65 Long Beach has Chrome Inner Rings on the side plates that Might make some diff in the spool fitment . All the others should be fine .
Rand I read that this half frame kit will fit a stock 2/0 Senator? Is that right? So if that's the case could you have the seat drilled to fit the 12H International. I known the spool will not work. Maybe offer the seat kit for the 12H upgrade. Probably to many holes in the seat right? A beater 12h transformed into a beefed up Jiggy . Could be away to have more interest the project. I would do one for the 12h less the spool and a kit for the LB60!
Twotone
Quote from: RowdyW on June 04, 2021, 01:31:20 AM
I thought you were saying that you could build 60 & 65 widths with the same kit.
DANG IT NOW !!! It is good to see your post Rowdy ! Been away a bit.
Fellas would a 2/0 kit be a legit reel for 30 ? ... Jeff
Quote from: twotone on June 05, 2021, 02:41:24 AM
Rand I read that this half frame kit will fit a stock 2/0 Senator? Is that right? So if that's the case could you have the seat drilled to fit the 12H International. I known the spool will not work. Maybe offer the seat kit for the 12H upgrade. Probably to many holes in the seat right? A beater 12h transformed into a beefed up Jiggy . Could be away to have more interest the project. I would do one for the 12h less the spool and a kit for the LB60!
Twotone
That's a fantastic idea Anthony! I have had a few requests for the topless frame for the International 12T and 12LT, and if the same diameter frame would work on the 60 and 2/0 and 12, 12H, 12T and 12LT, that should open up enough sales to justify asking Tiburon to make the run, unless having all of those holes to fit all of those models would weaken the frame. I'm traveling now, but when I get home I will check with Tiburon to see what they think about that.
Thank you,
Randy
Quote from: RowdyW on June 04, 2021, 01:31:20 AM
I thought you were saying that you could build 60 & 65 widths with the same kit.
Rudy, I just meant that you could probably use both the 60 and 65 side plates with the same kit.
Quote from: Rivverrat on June 05, 2021, 01:57:37 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on June 04, 2021, 01:31:20 AM
I thought you were saying that you could build 60 & 65 widths with the same kit.
DANG IT NOW !!! It is good to see your post Rowdy ! Been away a bit.
Fellas would a 2/0 kit be a legit reel for 30 ? ... Jeff
Yes- especially if you have steel main. The 3/0 was a rated 30 reel, the 2/0 is just narrower, same guts, so in essence less prone to torque especially if you frame it out. That would make a winch.
I'm in for two 2/0 frames Randy.
Quote from: Rancanfish on June 11, 2021, 04:33:01 AM
I'm in for two 2/0 frames Randy.
Thank you Randy! We have a ways to go to justify running 35 kits, but in fairness, we really run it up the flagpole yet.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 11, 2021, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on June 11, 2021, 04:33:01 AM
I'm in for two 2/0 frames Randy.
Thank you Randy! We have a ways to go to justify running 35 kits, but in fairness, we really run it up the flagpole yet.
How about starting a NEW THREAD where peeps can see the
NEWEST STATE OF THE ART OLD REEL MODIFICATIONS PRE ORDER CHECK
There are 15 pages to go through to get to this new project and people may get confused after the first 4 or 5 pages.
and put a running Tally on orders to be ?
ORDERS
Wompus Cat 3
Randy 2
If I'm understanding ... I would be in for two narrow style 2/0 frame & spools. I think two 2/0 reels with my Torque 12
Quote from: Wompus Cat on June 11, 2021, 04:18:25 PM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 11, 2021, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on June 11, 2021, 04:33:01 AM
I'm in for two 2/0 frames Randy.
Thank you Randy! We have a ways to go to justify running 35 kits, but in fairness, we really run it up the flagpole yet.
How about starting a NEW THREAD where peeps can see the
NEWEST STATE OF THE ART OLD REEL MODIFICATIONS PRE ORDER CHECK
There are 15 pages to go through to get to this new project and people may get confused after the first 4 or 5 pages.
and put a running Tally on orders to be ?
ORDERS
Wompus Cat 3
Randy 2
Wompus, I am traveling for the next ten days, but I think that's a great idea to put up a new thread and will do so as soon as I get home.
Thank you,
Randy
Anyone looking get get in on a run of XN Squidders or Surfmaster speak up and get on the list to make it happen...
Wut? I thought this was for 2/0's.
Anudder suggestion if I may is to clarify which Reels by Name and Number these Kits and others already mentioned Fit
Instead of X1n XOGN KYB NOKN ,R2D2.... I get cornfused and think these are license plate numbers ;D
Quote from: Rancanfish on July 03, 2021, 04:04:51 PM
Wut? I thought this was for 2/0's.
No the thread is for any project. That is why the separation, running tally, and change for list purposes of reel project names ( instead of X7DeltaBravo43'Zulu*9er) to their standard old school name will bring clarity .
Quote from: ReelPatina on July 03, 2021, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on July 03, 2021, 04:04:51 PM
Wut? I thought this was for 2/0's.
No the thread is for any project. That is why the separation, running tally, and change for list purposes of reel project names ( instead of X7DeltaBravo43'Zulu*9er) to their standard old school name will bring clarity .
Don't you mean
instead of X-Ray7DeltaBravo43'Zulu*9er ;D
Quote from: Wompus Cat on July 03, 2021, 04:56:48 PM
Quote from: ReelPatina on July 03, 2021, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Rancanfish on July 03, 2021, 04:04:51 PM
Wut? I thought this was for 2/0's.
No the thread is for any project. That is why the separation, running tally, and change for list purposes of reel project names ( instead of X7DeltaBravo43'Zulu*9er) to their standard old school name will bring clarity .
Don't you mean
instead of X-Ray7DeltaBravo43'Zulu*9er ;D
See , perfect example of why Smokey the Bear would drill you on it, someone is always listening!
It is hard to get Runway Clearance around here anymore these days.
I am looking for a silver 6/0 topless XN kit.
Anything around that anyone knows of? Wanting to do a custom build with Tom's sideplates.
Quote from: SearedTuna on September 15, 2021, 05:11:55 AM
I am looking for a silver 6/0 topless XN kit.
Anything around that anyone knows of? Wanting to do a custom build with Tom's sideplates.
The only new style Tiburon kit that I have for the 114H 6/0 Senator is a black extra wide kit.
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on September 15, 2021, 05:47:12 AM
Quote from: SearedTuna on September 15, 2021, 05:11:55 AM
I am looking for a silver 6/0 topless XN kit.
Anything around that anyone knows of? Wanting to do a custom build with Tom's sideplates.
The only new style Tiburon kit that I have for the 114H 6/0 Senator is a black extra wide kit.
Thank you Sir!
If the 6/0 XN kit ever comes back, please let me know!
Hi Randy, when and if there is another order I would like to be added for the P100XN and or the P16XN. Thanks
Quote from: SearedTuna on September 15, 2021, 06:44:05 AM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on September 15, 2021, 05:47:12 AM
Quote from: SearedTuna on September 15, 2021, 05:11:55 AM
I am looking for a silver 6/0 topless XN kit.
Anything around that anyone knows of? Wanting to do a custom build with Tom's sideplates.
The only new style Tiburon kit that I have for the 114H 6/0 Senator is a black extra wide kit.
Thank you Sir!
If the 6/0 XN kit ever comes back, please let me know!
I really appreciate your interest, but I am sorry to say that we won't be running 114H-XN kit again. It took forever to sell them last time.
Quote from: MartyBell on October 25, 2021, 06:01:24 PM
Hi Randy, when and if there is another order I would like to be added for the P100XN and or the P16XN. Thanks
Thank you Marty. I will put your name on the list and will let you know when we have enough interest to run them again.
Randy
Bump for the P100XN and or the P16XN parts just to let people know we are thinking about em...
Quote from: CooldadE on April 04, 2020, 08:03:05 PMTopless 349H...
Cool
Cool, we did those five years ago and it took forever to sell them. I think that Mikeysm might still have a few. You might want to send him a PM
Didn't Tom/Cortez make topless 349's & plates? Rudy
Quote from: RowdyW on May 22, 2022, 10:39:20 PMDidn't Tom/Cortez make topless 349's & plates? Rudy
Yes.
I would like to see a XN frame and spool for the Penn TRQ and/or FTH 40NLD2
Me too!
Quote from: ReelPatina on May 22, 2022, 08:17:41 AMBump for the P100XN and or the P16XN parts just to let people know we are thinking about em...
Thank you!
Randy,
Is Tib going to do anymore runs of Newell 400-600 series drag stars? I'm also hoping that more of the orange colored 454/546 kits come out, lol!!
Quote from: Toehi on May 24, 2022, 07:46:29 PMRandy,
Is Tib going to do anymore runs of Newell 400-600 series drag stars? I'm also hoping that more of the orange colored 454/546 kits come out, lol!!
I would think that they will restock the drag stars. You can reach them at 714.546.7553.
Thanks!
Any Tx4n frame and spoon kit left? I would love to get in on nexus order
How short on the P100XN and P16XN kits are we if you don't mind me asking?
Quote from: ReelPatina on October 17, 2022, 12:06:38 AMHow short on the P100XN and P16XN kits are we if you don't mind me asking?
I'm really sorry to say that I won't be doing any more special projects with Tiburon. If you would like to try to put something together you can call Rich at Tiburon directly at 714-546-7553.
Thank you for giving me a shot at your business.
Randy
Thanks for doing those when you did Randy, appreciate the time and effort you put into it, some good products came out of it. Sheridan
Quote from: Swami805 on October 17, 2022, 05:39:09 AMThanks for doing those when you did Randy, appreciate the time and effort you put into it, some good products came out of it. Sheridan
I really appreciate the kind words Sheridan, and your support and everyone else's who made those projects possible. It was fun while it lasted!
I'm really sorry to say that I won't be doing any more special projects with Tiburon. If you would like to try to put something together you can call Rich at Tiburon directly at 714-546-7553.
Thank you for giving me a shot at your business.
Randy
Below is a paraphrase I NEVER LIKED and Like it even Less Now !
All good things must come to an end is a proverb that means nothing lasts forever, all things and situations are temporary, or happiness is fleeting. It may be used to express regret when something that brings you happiness ends. The expression all good things must come to an end is an admonishment to enjoy your life today, because that happiness may not exist tomorrow.
Of the Few TRULY Magnificent Things OF BEAUTY I have Managed to Build from your kits I can only say they will be Cherished even More and Displayed in Prominence in My Small Collection
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THANK YOU GOOD SIR :al
Thank you Sir for your great efforts over the years, they have been special!
Thanks to everyone here who helped make these projects possible. I will never forget your support and your kind words. It was mostly a lot of fun while it lasted!
Randy
yep Randy you came out with really cool and unique upgrades for our reels, I wish I could have gotten more of the tib kits for different reels I have but at least I got the T4N1 kit and love it :fish
thanks amigo.
We miss you Randy, just so you know. I was looking at all my narrow Newell and Jigmasters the other day. Thanks again Sir.
I built plenty of reels from Randy and gave some of them away..! I gave a fully built 349H to Max.
Thank you Randy.
You guys made my day. Thank you!
Just saw this, and that's unfortunate, as Randy, you have put together some fine sets, and IMO crowned above all by the 20/0.
Will you still be handling stock frame / spool stuff?
Thank you John. It's probably easiest for you to order directly from Tiburon at 714-546-7553. Ask for Rich.
Randyyyyyy! X2 on all these accolades. "TIBURON" is on all my frames. Like to name one of mine "Randy VOT". Just gotta figure out how to make the label...
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on December 29, 2022, 01:41:09 AMYou guys made my day. Thank you!
And you made my day several times. The Jigmaster 501N is my favorit.
X2 for all the help with my Tiburon projects you gave me Randy.
Funnily enough, I'm only JUST getting most of mine spooled ready for this seasons fishing...
Just spooled up the narrow 4/0, 450 meters 50lb braid with a 50 meter mono top shot, REALLY looking forward to taking that out for a fish and a play, especially with all the S/S upgrades inside...
Couldn't of had these without your offerings Randy, so thankyou Sir..
Col
I bought their last 3 topless frames for the older intl 30. I need one more, hope I'm not the only one.