Poll
Question:
Which style is better
Option 1: Soild
votes: 0
Option 2: 2 holes
votes: 5
This item is available for purchasing on my online store. Limited quantity available.
This item will fit Squidder 146, Monifil 27, Surfmaster 100, 180 Baymaster and 185 Baymaster.
It comes in black and silver colors.
The price is $28.00 a set (2 pieces) + $2.60 shipping and credit card surcharge fee per item.
https://squareup.com/market/pro-challenger-llc (https://squareup.com/market/pro-challenger-llc)
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I'm personally not a fan of one solid piece, but if that's what you guys like, I'm ok with it, I could always do something to mine.
I was thinking maybe something as this might look nice, but I'm not sure on cost
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/bar_zpscexdjl12.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/bar_zpscexdjl12.jpg.html)
Let try to get it going, these would cover many reels. You would have options on the Baymaster, Beachmaster, Monofil, Squidder and I'm sure a few others.
Sal
I'm in with two holes. For if you take out a large portion of the middle you end up with pretty much two bars again. (With an acknowledged bit more side surface area).
Thanks Alan.
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/4A4E3F9B-7BF0-4FF4-B6C7-ED115184D999_zpsyjapbtlm.jpg)
Nice, Alan, but I thought the vote was for two holes.
Quote from: mike1010 on June 04, 2015, 01:33:07 PM
Nice, Alan, but I thought the vote was for two holes.
Those are sample. We want to see if the weight will be fine without those holes. If not, we can make two holes during the mass production.
Quote from: Black Pearl on June 04, 2015, 10:20:43 AM
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I like it 8) it will give the impression that it's a frame
Marc..
Alright, send me a couple and I'll put it together to see what it looks like. ;D
That look works for me!
I've got a strong preference for the bars with two holes, as voted. I also recognize that (1) omitting the holes might result in simpler, less expensive manufacture, and (2) more buyers might be showing up here, and they might prefer no holes. The holes might save, what, maybe an ounce? That's significant on these small reels.
Alan, do we need another vote, or do manufacturing simplicity and acceptably low weight rule?
--Mike
Quote from: mike1010 on June 05, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
I've got a strong preference for the bars with two holes, as voted. I also recognize that (1) omitting the holes might result in simpler, less expensive manufacture, and (2) more buyers might be showing up here, and they might prefer no holes. The holes might save, what, maybe an ounce? That's significant on these small reels.
Alan, do we need another vote, or do manufacturing simplicity and acceptably low weight rule?
--Mike
We can decide that after we have the testing result when we put these bars on a reel.
OK, here is an updated on this project.
I sent out a set of this spacer bar to Sal for checking (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14550.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14550.0)), and everything came back perfectly. That is a good news.
Now, here comes the bad news. After several attempt negotiation to lower the cost on this item, the supplier will not lower the cost on it (not even 10 cents lower). Therefore, the cost is so high, and I don't think that a lot of people will spend that kind of coins on this item.
The retail price will be around $31.00 a piece on this item with the curves as same as the sample set.
For a space bar without any curve (rectangle shape), the retail price will be around $28.00 a piece.
Let me know your thought, please.
Just to clarify, the prices are for one, not a set, correct?
Quote from: Rancanfish on June 30, 2015, 11:22:41 PM
Just to clarify, the prices are for one, not a set, correct?
That is correct. one piece.
Quote from: mike1010 on June 05, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
omitting the holes might result in simpler, less expensive manufacture
I was just thinking the same, also about the divots on top and bottom. While the divot on top is understandable for line clearance, the one on bottom can only be for symmetry/looks...and every operation increases cost.
I like the idea of having a cheap, plain-jane version that can be modified by the end user...but $28 a pop puts them out of reach for me. Surely there's another manufacturer out there somewhere that could produce these for a much more reasonable cost?
Alan, the price difference between the Jigmaster bars and these is a surprise. Same manufacturer?
Mike
I was very disappointed with these, holding them I'm sure you would feel the same. I also understand that sometimes it just can't happen. Alan tried for us to get the price down, but the supplier wouldn't budge...oh well.
Quote from: Reel 224 on July 02, 2015, 12:37:10 AM
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 01, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
I was very disappointed with these, holding them I'm sure you would feel the same. I also understand that sometimes it just can't happen. Alan tried for us to get the price down, but the supplier wouldn't budge...oh well.
Seams like this material and manufacturing is tough to get off the ground. I just wonder if the person that is making these parts is really interested in starting something or just jerking Alan's chain with price and run quantity, I realize that this is not my line of work, but common sense tells me that there is some interest at Alan's end to market his ideas. Maybe he should pursue another manufacturer that is as excited as he is about the products he has been presenting to us on the forum. It is just as discouraging for those of us that are interested in these great Ideas as it is for Alan to present them to us.
Chicken Little had lost everyone's respect by crying the sky is falling, the sky is falling. And I'm not blaming Alan, but when we cry Woolf and theirs none there, well next time who listens? I personally think Alan is trying his best to present something innovative and functional to those of us that are Reel enthusiast, I just hope he can get his ideas completed.
My perspective only, not a criticism. especially I am not presuming to tell Alan how to do business, rather I am feeling the pain with him.
Your point is well taken. I am currently source out another manufacturers. I have not given up on this item yet.
I am going to try to find out to make this item in T06061 aluminum in silver. I think the price will be much affordable.
Stay tune!!!!
Solid, no holes?
Quote from: mike1010 on September 08, 2015, 01:39:14 PM
Solid, no holes?
Just like this, but it is in aluminum.
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/4A4E3F9B-7BF0-4FF4-B6C7-ED115184D999_zpsyjapbtlm.jpg)
Alan,
Let me know if you would like me to quote these.
Yes, please.
do these squidder bar got into production?
Finally, I have reached a price with my other resource on this part. It will be in T6061 aluminum.
It will be in black or silver. The price is $28.00 a set. It is the same style/design as shown on the picture.
I am waiting for a sample for testing to confirm the fitting on a reel, then it will be in production.
I think we can have more colors (red, blue, green, black, silver, and purple maybe).
I'd definitely be interested in 3 black sets, and 1 purple set for the price you quoted. Just to verify, the part is 1 5/8" in length?
Alan, I would be interested in a black, silver, green, and purple. Please let us know when you are ready!
Thanks, .. Lou
Are those Pro Gear reels?
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 02, 2016, 03:16:19 AM
Are those Pro Gear reels?
No. they are a sample for testing.
Sorry guy, I can just make this bar in black and silver colors only.
I'm in favor of the 6061 T6, but they would have be anodized, and of course drilled and tapped 5-40. Holes are not important to me. I would want 10 sets of 1.625, and 10 sets of 2.125 (better yet 2") I'll paint with semi flat black for a better matching color.
Reel Man, Black Pearl doesn't offer anything unfinished, I usually get those for testing.
Spacer bars will be anodized in two colors, Black and Silver. They will also be drilled and tapped to specs.
I gave Alan the ok on the part, the rest is up to him.
If these do happen, you will be able to mount them on your reel as you get them.
Sal
I figured they'd be coated. I use these bars in the 500 series that I narrow.
Quote from: reel man on December 16, 2016, 08:38:40 PM
I figured they'd be coated. I use these bars in the 500 series that I narrow.
I have 2 of your original sets that I will use once I can get my aluminum side plates made.
Soooo Bryan, the 300 series plates are gone and 500 series on the horizon?
Jerry will a tiburon narrow spool work with the squidder bars or is it something I can get from you?
Thanks Sheridan
They are Newell bars for the 146. Randy pauly has a few available.
Swami the skinny Tib spool will work, but along with the bars (146 Squidder) you'll either need Tib's narrow cage, or a modified (narrowed) reel base.
This spacer bar will be here next week. The available colors are black and silver only. I will post some pictures when I get them.
The price is $28.00 a set (2 pieces) + $2.60 USPS First CLass Package service.
I would like 4 sets in black. Let me know how, and where to send the money. Paypal?
Let's hope you made enough of these bars, I have a bunch of Surfmasters, monofil and beachmasters waiting for those.
But take care of others first, I can wait.
Quote from: reel man on January 14, 2017, 11:33:16 PM
I would like 4 sets in black. Let me know how, and where to send the money. Paypal?
Hi,
When it is available for purchasing, it will be on my online-store.
Thanks,
--Alan
This item is available for purchasing on my online store. Limited quantity available.
It comes in black and silver colors.
https://squareup.com/market/pro-challenger-llc (https://squareup.com/market/pro-challenger-llc)
Alan, the bars came in and look very nice. Here are a couple of shots mounted on the Squidder, Surfmaster and Beachmaster:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20170121_142420.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20170121_142420.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20170121_142646.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20170121_142646.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20170121_142652.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20170121_142652.jpg.html)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20170121_142657.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20170121_142657.jpg.html)
I like the brush finish on those...good job!
Sal
Hi, will these bars fit a 501 or a 349? should be same width Thanks Richie
They wont work in the 501 and 349 Richie, same width as you said but the screw spacing is a bit wider on the squidder, surfmaster, etc. Alan C (Black Pearl or Pro Challenger) does make a stainless spacer that fits the 501 and 349, here's a link http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12127.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12127.0)
Mike
Thank you Mike I was not sure of the spacing I ran into that on a 99 project last year
ended up with the wrong newell bars & stand that later justified making a yellow tail special.