This is the second time in KY there has been a big bourbon spill and a resulting fish kill. ??? >:(
http://www.wlky.com/article/collapse-at-barton-1792-sends-bourbon-barrels-crashing-to-ground/21769369
I wonder what the fish feel like that didn't die. ??? In all seriousness, some folks spray cheap vodka into fish gills to dispatch them without puncturing them so I guess that fish are hyper sensitive to alcohol. Sad to see both sides. environmental issues and all that Bourbon wasted.
Noseying around on Google Earth, it looks like a small creek. 800 fish reported dead, pics looked like mostly small fish, drum, channel cats, suckers, etc.
Wonder how many of the locals dipped some of the water to drink? :o
My dad grew up in Kentucky just 3 or 4 miles across the Tennessee state line. Most of the folks I remember from up that way made their own liquor. ::)
Quote from: festus on June 24, 2018, 11:05:16 PM
800 fish reported dead, pics looked like mostly small fish, drum, channel cats, suckers, etc.
Hmm...bourbon soaked smoked sucker? Sounds interesting. 8)
Or maybe sour mash infused bullhead ???
Quote from: mo65 on June 25, 2018, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: festus on June 24, 2018, 11:05:16 PM
800 fish reported dead, pics looked like mostly small fish, drum, channel cats, suckers, etc.
Hmm...bourbon soaked smoked sucker? Sounds interesting. 8)
Have a friend who works at a winery and used to get me sacks of chips made from old wine casks. Gave my pork shoulder an awesome flavor. I wonder if they let me get some salvage out of there?
Wow! Wonder if it does somethin to their gill tissue. Tennessee and Kentucky-bourbon: best in the world.
That's why I drink Scotch. ;) :D
Joe
Dickel and Ginja. That's my hunt camp drank. -I like Maker's, and Jefferson Ocean is the preferred but if you pull those out in camp, people get above their raisin's and suddenly want pate instead of deviled ham....
Sardinie's, beanie weenies, viennie's...I'd eat the potted meat on a cracka too but it doesn't rhyme with rest of my pack food.
sad about the fish kill.
how would a fish marinated in alcohol taste like?
I have bourbon-drunk duck and it was great. I expect a white flaky fish marinated in bourbon and smoked or grilled would be good. Wine and beer marinades are standard and very good.
Salmon marinated in sherry, teriyaki and ginger then grilled is amazing.
Bardstown is 100 miles from me.
You would think it would be mandatory to have a dike built to contain any spills.
When I drank Bourbon.
Bulleit is the best there is. Above Woodford, Makers, Knob Creek and all the others as far as I'm concerned.
Never tried the High Dollar Stuff like four roses and the like.
If you are a Bourbon Drinker, You need to try it.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 27, 2018, 05:33:26 PM
When I drank Bourbon.
Bulleit is the best there is.
If you are a Bourbon Drinker, You need to try it.
Thanks for the tip Daron...I'll give that a try. 8)
As most anything else, homemade or "homegrown" is best. Moonshine making was almost a lost art until Popcorn Sutton wannabees revived it here in the Tennessee mountains. Now most every hick town here on the Cumberland Plateau with an interstate exit has a legal distillery, but I've yet to visit any of them. Better off doing it yourself. Just a couple weeks ago a distillery was opened at the old prison site up the road about 4 miles. http://brushymtngroup.com/ I hope they do well, but it's just another tourist trap.
Believe it or not, you can now buy a moonshine still at Walmart for $97.99. I helped a friend set one up a few years ago. We tried a hot plate for the heat source in his garage, but couldn't get the temp suitable. So we moved it into his kitchen where his wife watched in fascination. His first run was a brandy of sorts with a mash from overripe peaches and Welch's white grape juice. Good stuff. His still came with recipes of old hillbilly moonshine recipes plus more sophisticated stuff like bourbon, sour mash, apricot brandies, etc. However, I would not recommend this miniature distillery. The condensor sets on top the still and it's almost impossible to get the coils cooled, you have to continually add ice. BTW, there isn't very much unpolluted water around anymore, so distilled or spring water in 5 gallon jugs from Walmart is put to good use. ;)
Walmart also sells a copper still for about $400. This is a nice one with thump keg. I've never seen this particular one in operation, but know someone who owns one and have sampled the finished product. He has in the past bought old barrels from the Jack Daniels site down in Lynchburg and aged it. But it's much easier to buy some Jim Beam or Jack Daniels charred oak chips, also available at Walmart, and soak the liquor in it. Most old timers or die hard moonshiners probably make fun of these prefabricated stills, some of those folks are retired boilermakers and pipefitters. Nowadays the law enforcement agencies turn their head to moonshiners unless they hear too many complaints, they have their hands full of clandestine methamphetamine laboratories, opiate peddlers, thieves, and robbers to worry about. ::) Am I going to start distilling? Not very likely. Matter of fact I don't even make wine anymore.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 27, 2018, 05:33:26 PM
Bardstown is 100 miles from me.
You would think it would be mandatory to have a dike built to contain any spills.
When I drank Bourbon.
Bulleit is the best there is. Above Woodford, Makers, Knob Creek and all the others as far as I'm concerned.
Never tried the High Dollar Stuff like four roses and the like.
If you are a Bourbon Drinker, You need to try it.
ditto. smoooooth. the only one i like better is Jefferson Ocean.
Man, you SE hill folk are some of the most serious "homemade do it yerself" innovators in the country. So many non-store bought products that have become art: Liquor, weapons, stock cars, fishing reels, quarter horses, country & bluegrass insturments/music, etc., etc.
Quote from: Gfish on June 27, 2018, 10:21:05 PM
Man, you SE hill folk are some of the most serious "homemade do it yerself" innovators in the country. So many non-store bought products that have become art: Liquor, weapons, stock cars, fishing reels, quarter horses, country & bluegrass insturments/music, etc., etc.
Yep, but it ain't like it used to be. Restrictor plates on stock cars, country music has gone to pop, young people drinking high energy drinks and light beer, and worst of all moonshiners buying their stills at Walmart. ::)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TDN-15-Gallon-Copper-Moonshine-Liquor-Distillation-Unit/688704792?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=16997&adid=22222222227151538677&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=262820861025&wl4=pla-437809841732&wl5=9013366&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=120820580&wl11=online&wl12=688704792&wl13=&veh=sem
Back in the early 1700's one of my ancestors brought distilling here from Scotland where he was licensed to make and sell whisky. He arrived in Philadelphia around 1720 and proceeded to get hisself a license to make and sell whisky by the small, and trade with the Indians. He and his brothers packed up and left Philly for the southwestern Virginia frontiers. Family lore is he made his whisky on an island on the Dan river and floated the barrels down the river to the ordinaries, his older brother operated a ferry below him and the two of them also owned a tavern on the river beside the ferry. Well the art of home brew has been in the family ever since, my direct ancestor was the youngest of these brothers and he ran the tavern, he also learned from his uncle how to brew. He brought the art into North Carolina and taught it to his son who brought it into the dark corner of the South Carolina Appalachian upcountry in the late 1700's, the family stayed there making whisky and farming until 1895 when my gr grandfather left for brighter prospects. He moved to Arkansas and bought a farm. He made a bit of shine for family and friends but that was about the extent of things, his sons became coal miners in Oklahoma until one of them was burned up died in an explosion with 12 other miners. My grandfather quit the minin bidness packed up his family and headed for Oregon territory where he landed work as a plumber in a auto factory. That was the end of the family whisky making, or so it was thought. Last month a unnamed family member dropped by to see me, he had a bottle of whisky and he wanted my opinion of. It wasn't labeled, I tried it! I liked it! Looks like you can take the boy out of the country and educate him in the liberal west, but sooner or later his true nature will be revealed. We're still a bunch of hillbillies And good shine is still good shine.
Quote from: festus on June 27, 2018, 11:08:14 PM
Yep, but it ain't like it used to be. Restrictor plates on stock cars, country music has gone to pop, young people drinking high energy drinks and light beer, and worst of all moonshiners buying their stills at Walmart. ::)
Now that right there is a quotable quote... Jeff
Quote from: David Hall on June 27, 2018, 11:58:00 PM
Back in the early 1700's one of my ancestors brought distilling here from Scotland where he was licensed to make and sell whisky. He arrived in Philadelphia around 1720 and proceeded to get hisself a license to make and sell whisky by the small, and trade with the Indians. He and his brothers packed up and left Philly for the southwestern Virginia frontiers. Family lore is he made his whisky on an island on the Dan river and floated the barrels down the river to the ordinaries, his older brother operated a ferry below him and the two of them also owned a tavern on the river beside the ferry. Well the art of home brew has been in the family ever since, my direct ancestor was the youngest of these brothers and he ran the tavern, he also learned from his uncle how to brew. He brought the art into North Carolina and taught it to his son who brought it into the dark corner of the South Carolina Appalachian upcountry in the late 1700's, the family stayed there making whisky and farming until 1895 when my gr grandfather left for brighter prospects. He moved to Arkansas and bought a farm. He made a bit of shine for family and friends but that was about the extent of things, his sons became coal miners in Oklahoma until one of them was burned up died in an explosion with 12 other miners. My grandfather quit the minin bidness packed up his family and headed for Oregon territory where he landed work as a plumber in a auto factory. That was the end of the family whisky making, or so it was thought. Last month a unnamed family member dropped by to see me, he had a bottle of whisky and he wanted my opinion of. It wasn't labeled, I tried it! I liked it! Looks like you can take the boy out of the country and educate him in the liberal west, but sooner or later his true nature will be revealed. We're still a bunch of hillbillies And good shine is still good shine.
That's correct, the Scots brought the fine art of distilling to Kentucky and Virginia. Of course corn was substituted for barley, and bourbon was created. Good whiskey is made from a mash of malted grains. Nowadays no telling what these legal moonshine distilleries use, mule feed, corn meal, cane sugar, who knows. ???